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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 19 2008, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yea, all i'm saying that the problem with most championship challenges isn't how many races they do win, but how well they do when they dont win. When was the last time Kimi scored any points?
He didn't score ANY points the last 3 races, so it must have been Hungary then!
Well yeah, I know what you were saying, but in Kimi's case it doesn't matter, since he's not gonna win the title. He NEEDS to win a race. Last race he won was SPAIN, that's ages ago!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Sep 19 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He NEEDS to win a race. Last race he won was SPAIN, that's ages ago!
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Yea i agree, i bareley remember Spain now!!

Remember all those ill-founded beliefs that Mclarens cars were only good once every 2 years? That was obviously a load of rubbish, but maybe it's actually Kimi who fluctuates?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 19 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yea i agree, i bareley remember Spain now!!
Wasn't that interesting really, Ferrari finished 1-2, Kimi took pole and won, that's all I remember. Oh and Alonso almost took pole, that was a nice quali if I remember correctly!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 19 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Remember all those ill-founded beliefs that Mclarens cars were only good once every 2 years? That was obviously a load of rubbish, but maybe it's actually Kimi who fluctuates?
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Well, that was actually the case. One season they were great (or at least able to win races) and the next season they were crap! Yeah of course it's Raikkonen..
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Maybe they suddenly know how to be good two seasons in a row because of the Ferrari info
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Wasn't that interesting really, Ferrari finished 1-2, Kimi took pole and won, that's all I remember. Oh and Alonso almost took pole, that was a nice quali if I remember correctly!

Sounds familiar, i must have blacked out after Alonsos engine died.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Sep 19 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe they suddenly know how to be good two seasons in a row because of the Ferrari info
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HAHAHA, nah thats the just 0.9 seconds that Alonso left behind
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http://www.motorauthority.com/fia-ratifies...ine-freeze.html

What do you guys think about the engine freeze? I think it is ridiculoous.... the problem with cars not being competitive amongst eachother has little to do with engine technology but more to do with aerodynamics. I agree with the ban of using 24hours testing in wind tunnel and limited to just one facility, but to freeze the engine is plain stupid. The development of engines in F1 cars is what drives Manufacturers to build more reliable and efficient motor for the public. to
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 19 2008, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.motorauthority.com/fia-ratifies...ine-freeze.html

What do you guys think about the engine freeze? I think it is ridiculoous.... the problem with cars not being competitive amongst eachother has little to do with engine technology but more to do with aerodynamics. I agree with the ban of using 24hours testing in wind tunnel and limited to just one facility, but to freeze the engine is plain stupid. The development of engines in F1 cars is what drives Manufacturers to build more reliable and efficient motor for the public. to

Yea it's rediculous!! The design constraints are bad enough because the engine layout has ramifications on the chassis design, and the forced conformity enforces a reduction in varyation. The freeze itself is even worse
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thom @ Sep 19 2008, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Surely you have to hand it back nearly straight away ie after youre back on the track after cutting the chicane or corner w/e??

of course you have to. if you would read my post again, i said most probably, which could also mean i'm wrong as i really don't know what happened or why should they ask ferrari if massa (and every rider) knows that you have to hand it back right away.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Sep 20 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I need a good night's sleep - might watch the next race.
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Very funny! Like we believe that!
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Takuma Sato #1

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Val_46 @ Sep 23 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>REJECTED! surprise surfuckingprise

For ..... sake! The FIA are really starting to get on my .... now!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Val_46 @ Sep 23 2008, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>anyone know when Hamilton finds out the result of his appeal?

We already knew even before the result comes out LH's appeal is "inadmissible".
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Good news is this year championship will decided at the last race..and there will be some surprises at the coming Singapore F1 night race....
 
The whole episode from start to finish is a farce.

It seems to me that Ferrari have a history of being able to do as they please, and a history of sucessful appeals when required. McLaren to not seem to have that leverage.

However, it is not fair to suggest that a Ferrari driver has not backed off to let another driver through before........

2001 Austria.

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2002 Austria

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Now I'm a Schumacher fan, fueled by his single mindedness and determination combined with many truly awesome performances. I see a similar character in Hamilton, but some higher force seems determined to keep him away from the Champions seat.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Val_46 @ Sep 24 2008, 03:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yup agreed.

Seems to be that some people have a problem with natural winners

No.....it has more to do with him being an arrogant prick than a, as you like to call him, 'natural winner'.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 24 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No.....it has more to do with him being an arrogant prick than a, as you like to call him, 'natural winner'.

I dont think he's a prick, i think he's bought alot to F1 tbh... like someone stated earlier, most great champs have an air of arrogance about them... i think he's well within his right considering what he's done with his life.

I'd be a hell of a lot more arrogant than him if i had anywhere near the riches/lifestyle he has given himself.
 

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