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Fall out from the loss of Marco Simoncelli

Joined Jun 2008
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Gold Coast, Australia
I've been lying awake half the night thinking about the crash and tragic loss of Marco Simoncelli.

This accident will surely effect all the riders massively, and one of the things I can't get past is the terrible impact on Colin Edwards and Rossi, particularly Vale who was good friends with Marco.



Unfortunately, I think this accident could have a huge effect on the immediate future of MotoGP.



After the .... year he has had with Ducati, could this accident, and being involved in the death of his friend, be enough to push Vale to walk away from MotoGP. Will this accident finally destroy his motivation to try to beat the bike that is constantly trying to kill him.

What about JB.



What about Colin Edwards. Aside from the death of Marco, another injury, and the prospect of coming back on a completely uncompetitive CRT bike.



Stoner - will this be too close to home for the soon to be father, who has probably achieved most of what he set out to, and has made no secret of one day retiring to the farm with his family.

Possibly the same for some of the other riders, and even support crews.



Will Dorna, or the FIM introduce 'knee jerk reaction' changes after the accident.

Could this change again the formula for MotoGP.



Gresini, surely this accident will have a massive impact on the team, and on HRC. How do they recover from the death of another young rider.



There is one change that I hope this accident does bring.

Fans and the media can be way too critical of the riders. Everyone has their favorites, but it has become way too easy to criticize others, and sometimes it goes too far. These riders are all young guys out there giving 110%. From first to last, they all deserve a lot more credit and respect than they are given, and they should not cop some of the .... that is dished out.

How many people in the media, and on forums like this, would have the balls to race one of these bikes at the limit, or to get back on the bike after it has tried to kill you. I wouldn't.



A lot of people have been very critical of Marco.

At the end of the day, the guy has died racing a bike. Doing somethng that most people who have criticized him, will never have the balls to do. Whether he was better or worse than another rider, or whether he made mistakes in races, sort of looses importance. After his previous comments, credit to Dani for being one of the first to publicly pay respects to Marco and to his family.
 
Too soon, mate.



RIP Marco and my thoughts are with his family and friends, including Rossi and Edwards. May they both get over this as Redding and De Angelis managed when Tomisawa sadly passed in similar circumstances
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After the .... year he has had with Ducati, could this accident, and being involved in the death of his friend, be enough to push Vale to walk away from MotoGP. Will this accident finally destroy his motivation to try to beat the bike that is constantly trying to kill him.

What about JB.



What about Colin Edwards. Aside from the death of Marco, another injury, and the prospect of coming back on a completely uncompetitive CRT bike.



No, and no.
 
This has been a bad week for racing. I'm not sure what they could do about it. I have read many articles saying the 800s are ridden on the ragged edge, to a further extent than previous generations of GP bikes. Is there anything that can be done?
 
This has been a bad week for racing. I'm not sure what they could do about it. I have read many articles saying the 800s are ridden on the ragged edge, to a further extent than previous generations of GP bikes. Is there anything that can be done?

Sometimes it's easier to come to terms with tragedy if there is someone or something to blame. I dont think anyone or anything was to blame today. Nothing could have been done to prevent this. We just have to come to terms with the fact that his time was up.
 
This is a great trajedy. He may not have been my or your favorite, but he had great potential.



Now that I have seen the video, I have to pose some questions.

1- Was Marco's extra hair a contributing factor to loosing his helmet?

2-Did he wear a size larger than he would have otherwise?

3- Are current design production helmets adequate for the speeds of Moto GP?

Perhaps larger shells with more cushioning are needed.

Under the chin attachment may need a rethink.

Also, hand and shoulder injuries are both areas where there is need for improved protection.

And, perhaps F1 level engines are not good for 2 wheels.

I hope Dorna will address these issues.

Riders should not be risking their lives.

A sad sad day. God's speed Marco.
 
Out of respect for Marco, I'd have all riders walk the track in silence, and call it a season.

It's a nice sentiment Trav - but there's no precedent for it. Too much money and too many contracts point to finishing the season.

There are still two other championships to be decided. Champions die in sports all the time and the season always plays out.
 
This is a great trajedy. He may not have been my or your favorite, but he had great potential.



Now that I have seen the video, I have to pose some questions.

1- Was Marco's extra hair a contributing factor to loosing his helmet?

2-Did he wear a size larger than he would have otherwise?

3- Are current design production helmets adequate for the speeds of Moto GP?

Perhaps larger shells with more cushioning are needed.

Under the chin attachment may need a rethink.

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Some good questions all valid. Furthermore they must mandate some sort of front brake lever protector. Its a miracle noone has been killed from those accidents.

I dont think Marcos helmet coming off contributed to his death though. It looks like the initial impact was the fatal blow.



Common sense would think that guys would retire over something like this but history tells us differently. These guys are racers through and through. Theyve seen it all before and moved on. Just thinking back over Nicky career hes lost fellow racers, dirt track teammates and family members. We call IOMTT racers nuts ( and they are) but realistically every time any racer straps on the helmet they are straddling a very very fine line.

I stood in the pit box last year at Daytona with Benny Solis's crew and Dad. He crashed on the third turn of the 1st lap. After the dust had settled and we realized Benny was allright I said to his dad " that really sucks that you guys scraped together all that cash to drive all the way across the country and have it end in an instant." He reply to me was " im just happy my boy is allright"

It really puts it all into perspective.

Much respect to all these guys
 
Malaysia test is off.

Valencia race will run

(Matthew Birt on Twitter)
 
A lot of people have been very critical of Marco.

At the end of the day, the guy has died racing a bike. Doing somethng that most people who have criticized him, will never have the balls to do. Whether he was better or worse than another rider, or whether he made mistakes in races, sort of looses importance. After his previous comments, credit to Dani for being one of the first to publicly pay respects to Marco and to his family.



Nuts, you may be missing the point. Most of the criticism of Sic has been precisely because he adds(has added) too much extra and unnecessary danger to what is already a dangerous sport. Witness Dani this year and the horrific accident Barbera had when Sic suddenly weaved into him on the straight and HB was flipped over as his front brake locked up. The irony is that after the Pedrosa incident, he seemed to finally remove the dangerous moves from his repetoir.
 
As Rog has said I think this accident is one of those where you can never mandate or set rules to prevent another instance of this happening....it was simply terribly bad luck with Marco being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Both Colin and Valentino had no chance of altering their path so as to avoid a collision....just a freak occurence that no one could do anything about.



I think that a lot of the issues MotoGP is facing at the moment are to do with the current bikes pushing the limits of adhesion and the laws of physics to their maximum potential - especially in terms of mid corner speed. This combined with the fact that only a select few riders have the capablities of keeping them at this 100% performance threshold for the entire race means that the other riders are riding way outside of their comfort zones. Those guys who can ride at the highest level have raised the bar to a superhuman standard - even they have difficulty maintaining this standard as its a razor thin line.



I dont think there is much more performance left to extract from either man or machine. This makes the job of those charged with instigating the rules governing the sport a very difficult one....I think everyone would agree the current formula has not been condusive to safety or particularly good racing but I dont envy those assigned with the task of balancing all these different considerations...it is a very difficult one and as we have seen rules can be put in place but they often dont fulfil their intended objectives due to unforseen circumstances.



I think in this accident there was no rule that could be written to prevent this tragedy. It is simply an event that every now and then we will have to deal with and it is a very hard and cruel fact of life that this sport we all love can be so heartbreaking at times.
 
Agree w above. It was an unpreventable tragic racing incident. End of story. Nobody is to blame.



The only "fallout" is - when the smoke clears, who will be taking his seat? Nobody wants to say it

but it's on everybody's mind. Has Dovi actually signed w Yamaha or only agreed with a handshake?

What about Bautista?
 
Valencia Has To Be Raced...for the respect for Marco because I’m sure that he wouldn’t have wanted the sport that he loved so much to stop because of him!



I lost my brother in a bike accident in 1981 when we both were riding 1100 Katana’s (what a fine bike) he was 29 and I was 26 and married with 2 kids and that didn’t stop me because I knew that my brother Peter loved riding and I continued riding as a tribute and respect to him!



I have nothing more to say except "RUN VALENCIA"!!!
 

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