Exclusive: Casey Stoner signs with Repsol Honda

BarryMachine said:

Gee Curve !!!



How is it possible for you to get zero in a MGP trivia test!!!??

There's three points there ..... and you got every single one wrong!!

And its not like I haven't already given you the real answers for ages now

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again...he's very good, but he aint no Doctor, he ain't no Doohan, he's not even a Gardner

BarryMachine said:

think you are right, and I also wonder what the hell Ducati will do in 2011?

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They are not doing that great this year as well while Casey is still in the team

TP70 said:

What a great moment for the sport of MotoGP.



Stoner has shown great courage to leave a team that he has collaborated with to win a MotoGP WC against the greatest motorcycle racer of this time. He leaves a team that he has won more races with then any other racer other than the greatest motorcycle racer of this time. He leaves a team where he was a clear number one to go to a team that has 2 riders that are potentially his equal. He leaves to go to a team that has won less than a 3rd of the number of races in this era than he has won himself.



Stoner has shown courage that only 1 rider has before in this current era - Valentino Rossi.



In 2004 Rossi left Honda for Yamaha because Honda did not show him the respect he deserved. Rossi backed him self and went to a team that had not been successful. Stoner leaves a team that despite giving them so much, failed him when they should have had his back. By offering ridiculous money to Lorenzo and Pedrosa last season Ducati has shown Stoner no respect and Stoner has shown the same courage as Rossi did by leaving and going to a team with little recent success.



Unfortunately the usual culprits will be negative but if you can not see that Stoner has proved himself to be a man then you are still just a boy.

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There is one big difference in Casey and Rossi's Move, Rossi was winning hands down and was world champion when he made his move from Honda to Yamaha but with Casey who is currently lying at number 6 position in standings and so far this season hasn't won any races and he clearly believes that he can't win another champiohship on Ducati thats why he is moving to Honda and personnelly i don't have any problem with that and

wish him all the best but comparing both moves with each other is not fair.

xx CURVE xx said:

nope i think Pedro will still be #1..

..at least till 2012.

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I know it's only speculation - but I think it's intelligent speculation - that the third bike will be

sponsored by Red Bull - and it's not impossible that given Pedrosa hasn't produced and

Dovizioso isn't challenging for the top of the podum (yet) - they might make the Red Bull

bike for Stoner their priority. After all - they can always tell Pedro that he has the best bike

- but quietly give all the cool new stuff to Stoner. Or Honda might get tired of Repsol insisting

on a Spanish rider as top priority and let Red Bull sponsor all three bikes.



I doubt Pedro has a contract stating that he must be rider #1 till 2012 even if he

doesn't win the championship.

TP70 said:

What a great moment for the sport of MotoGP.



Stoner has shown great courage to leave a team that he has collaborated with to win a MotoGP WC against the greatest motorcycle racer of this time. He leaves a team that he has won more races with then any other racer other than the greatest motorcycle racer of this time. He leaves a team where he was a clear number one to go to a team that has 2 riders that are potentially his equal. He leaves to go to a team that has won less than a 3rd of the number of races in this era than he has won himself.



Stoner has shown courage that only 1 rider has before in this current era - Valentino Rossi.



In 2004 Rossi left Honda for Yamaha because Honda did not show him the respect he deserved. Rossi backed him self and went to a team that had not been successful. Stoner leaves a team that despite giving them so much, failed him when they should have had his back. By offering ridiculous money to Lorenzo and Pedrosa last season Ducati has shown Stoner no respect and Stoner has shown the same courage as Rossi did by leaving and going to a team with little recent success.



Unfortunately the usual culprits will be negative but if you can not see that Stoner has proved himself to be a man then you are still just a boy.

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xx CURVE xx said:

No a Troll is a person like yourself that gives ridiculous opinions, that are so out of left field they're laughable..



Ill tell ya what though....i have the past 30 years of GPs on vid..Why dont you come over and we will run through them, bring a note pad, some beer, i'll crank up the grill and throw on some steaks...

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Curve. Tell me what in my above opinion is ridiculous? Not some juvenile attempt at a cutting remark but a real response with a justification and an alternative opinion. I am happy to concede that a Bopper such as yourself may not see the courage it has taken for Stoner to leave a team where he has succeeded and go to a team with 2 rivals when their idol is crying like a little ..... about having 1 rival.



Congratulations mate on your 30 years of video. No really, congratulations that is so impressive. You are clearly the expert. I am surprised that you are not consulting to any of the teams. But then if your posts which mostly involve "bring back the 1000's" are anything to go by then you certainly have failed to absorb any real knowledge from your many hours in front of a TV.

inam said:

There is one big difference in Casey and Rossi's Move, Rossi was winning hands down and was world champion when he made his move from Honda to Yamaha but with Casey who is currently lying at number 6 position in standings and so far this season hasn't won any races and he clearly believes that he can't win another champiohship on Ducati thats why he is moving to Honda and personnelly i don't have any problem with that and

wish him all the best but comparing both moves with each other is not fair.

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True, Inam. It also was a different era where their was the Honda and then there was some distance back to the others. Sure Rossi was succeeding and I don't disagree with the fact he was a winner hands down. This season is not over and I would be very surprised if Stoner doesn't bag a few wins at least. Even f he scored 2 wins this season it would be more then Ducati has scored with any other rider in this era. It is also true as was the case back in 2004 that the bike the rider is moving to has scored very few wins in the era. We may think that the Honda is a good bike because it is a Honda but results are what matters and the Honda has failed to secure results for 6 or so seasons now.



I also wasn't comparing the moves as equal I am suggesting that the rider, the person showed a lot of courage to make the decision in both instances and the politics in each instance were similar.

xx CURVE xx said:

No a Troll is a person like yourself that gives ridiculous opinions, that are so out of left field they're laughable..



Ill tell ya what though....i have the past 30 years of GPs on vid..Why dont you come over and we will run through them, bring a note pad, some beer, i'll crank up the grill and throw on some steaks...

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.... TP bro, im on my way

xx CURVE xx said:

thats not what i'm saying..yes CS is a little ..... we can all agree on that..BUT he IS one bad ... bike rider and IS one of the best without a doubt... but he aint no Doctor, he ain't no Doohan, he's not even a Gardner

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Fairly close parallels to and similar record to gardner at this stage I would have thought, particularly given the historical strength of honda for whom gardner rode his whole gp career, unless you consider eddie lawson to be stronger opposition than valentino rossi.

TP you comparing The GOAT to a one hit wonder is whats ridiculous

rossi left the best bike in the world behind to inferior bike..While Ston6ers going to a better machine thats at least up up front, and i EXPECT him to beat Pedro asap as i think CS is a better rider..so i dont see where you making out Stoner to be Braveheart.

michaelm said:

Fairly close parallels to and similar record to gardner at this stage I would have thought, particularly given the historical strength of honda for whom gardner rode his whole gp career, unless you consider eddie lawson to be stronger opposition than valentino rossi.

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....... WG was never a little .....

chopperman said:

.... TP bro, im on my way

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Yeah hurry up at least i know you're on the same page

inam said:

There is one big difference in Casey and Rossi's Move, Rossi was winning hands down and was world champion when he made his move from Honda to Yamaha but with Casey who is currently lying at number 6 position in standings and so far this season hasn't won any races and he clearly believes that he can't win another champiohship on Ducati thats why he is moving to Honda and personnelly i don't have any problem with that and

wish him all the best but comparing both moves with each other is not fair.

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Hard to disagree with this, except that the logical corollary if he goes on to win championships for honda is that his ducati world championship is akin to valentino's 2004 yamaha title. In all honesty I think winning championships even for hrc against rossi and lorenzo is hardly assured, although how strong yamaha will be if rossi leaves is open to question. In somewhat similar circumstances alex criville was nowhere the following season. I think jorge is better than criville but alex looked pretty strong at the end of the 1999 season.

TP70 said:

Curve. Tell me what in my above opinion is ridiculous? Not some juvenile attempt at a cutting remark but a real response with a justification and an alternative opinion. I am happy to concede that a Bopper such as yourself may not see the courage it has taken for Stoner to leave a team where he has succeeded and go to a team with 2 rivals when their idol is crying like a little ..... about having 1 rival.

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Your opinion is ridiculous because because of your lack of knowledge and historical perspective. As per below.



View PostTP70, on 09 July 2010 - 10:52 AM, said:

Quick as a flash one of the "usual culprits" chimes in with the usual negative comment.



Yet when Rossi went to Yamaha they were just a back yard group trying to build a bike. Tell me Curve, why has Rossi now ostracised himself now from 2 major motorcycle manufacturers. Honda it seems didn't care to fight to keep him and it serious looks like Yamaha are forcing him too leave. If he does the same with Ducati then the only smaller factory would be ... MV?





Tell that to Ago, King Kenny, Eddie Lawson, Wayne Rainey etc etc who won multiple world championships

on Yamahas. Really - think before you speak. Yamaha has got more world championships under their belt

than you have years on the planet.

xx CURVE xx said:

TP you comparing The GOAT to a one hit wonder is whats ridiculous

rossi left the best bike in the world behind to inferior bike..While Ston6ers going to a better machine thats at least up up front, and i EXPECT him to beat Pedro asap as i think CS is a better rider..so i dont see where you making out Stoner to be Braveheart.

....... WG was never a little .....

Yeah hurry up at least i know you're on the same page

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Curve Curve Curve. Stop Stop Stop. You know I've already told you the facts about Stoner and now you are just embarrassing yourself by trying to assert even Gardiner is of Stoners league Thats "Crazy talk" you hear me "Crazy Talk"

These threads seriously get away from the topic at hand at times.



It was probably the worst kept secret over the last month, and Casey did his best to give it away when you heard his post race presser, he praised Danny more than he ever has, it was crystal clear that he was wanting to be as plesant to his new team mate as possible. That presser leads me to believe taht it will be Casey and Danny on the Repsol, and Dovi on a 3rd factory/Sat bike...perhaps even a tie up with LCR. Anyone noticed Randy getting better bits over the last few races??



This move was in HRC's plans for quiet a while, the first obvious move was getting Supo on board, that gave them the conduit to Casey. They then developed this years Honda to be of a more similar charachteristic to the last few Dukes. My assumption is that they went at Casey with a clear plan that said to him we want to build this team around you, we will put the people in place, develop the bike that you want and try to win a championship.



Danny is a good rider and so is Dovi but I personally dont believe either is on the level of Stoner. I also dont think this years Ducatti is all that bad, we all know Casey has not had the best luck and had the issues early on, but now they are getting back on their feet. The Yam is clearly the best bike, but i dare say the Honda and Duke are on a similar level.



Id also have to say Honda are well placed with the change in deplacment and their obvious resources.



Its pretty safe to assume that Rossi will go to Ducati, what i question is if Burges will go with him?? There has been no talk of Casey taking his mech's with him to Honda, also Ducatti tend to be a very 'inhouse' team, is it possible that Rossi will go to Ducatti and work with their team and JB will go and work with casey at Honda? Not as far fetched as it seems.

Keshav said:

Your opinion is ridiculous because because of your lack of knowledge and historical perspective. As per below.



View PostTP70, on 09 July 2010 - 10:52 AM, said:

Quick as a flash one of the "usual culprits" chimes in with the usual negative comment.



Yet when Rossi went to Yamaha they were just a back yard group trying to build a bike. Tell me Curve, why has Rossi now ostracised himself now from 2 major motorcycle manufacturers. Honda it seems didn't care to fight to keep him and it serious looks like Yamaha are forcing him too leave. If he does the same with Ducati then the only smaller factory would be ... MV?





Tell that to Ago, King Kenny, Eddie Lawson, Wayne Rainey etc etc who won multiple world championships

on Yamahas. Really - think before you speak. Yamaha has got more world championships under their belt

than you have years on the planet.

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Keshav, you have totally missed the sarcasm in my comment about Yamaha. Of course Yamaha was not a back yard outfit. Yamaha is the second largest motorcycle manufacture and the second most successful manufacturer in GP history which was my point. Curve was trying to suggest that the step Rossi made from Honda to Yamaha was massive and that Casey going to Honda is a no brainer because they are the biggest. Well I am suggesting that Honda's recent success is not to dissimilar to Yamaha at the time of Rossi's defection.

TP70 said:

Keshav, you have totally missed the sarcasm in my comment about Yamaha. Of course Yamaha was not a back yard outfit. Yamaha is the second largest motorcycle manufacture and the second most successful manufacturer in GP history which was my point. Curve was trying to suggest that the step Rossi made from Honda to Yamaha was massive and that Casey going to Honda is a no brainer because they are the biggest. Well I am suggesting that Honda's recent success is not to dissimilar to Yamaha at the time of Rossi's defection.

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if memory serves yamaha "success" that you speak of, which would have taken place in the 03 season, was one 3rd place finnish at lemans by alex barros..... 1 podium for the entire season.....not to dissimilar...... really?

frosty58 said:

if memory serves yamaha "success" that you speak of, which would have taken place in the 03 season, was one 3rd place finnish at lemans by alex barros..... 1 podium for the entire season.....not to dissimilar...... really?

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Oh ....... sorry. For crying out loud what a ....... pathetic come back. It is so ....... difficult to have a debate on this forum.



Maybe I should just stick to some ....... worthless posts like most of the ....... ....... on here like "Stoners a crying ....." Rossi is the Goat" "Stoner needs to get the sand out of his ......"



No wonder there are about 20 regular posters on this forum these days because it is that sort of pathetic .... that passes for a conversation and most of the people who visit here can't be bothered placing up an opinion because the mindless fuckwits who troll this place just rip it to shreds with their own version of worship with out ever contributing to or trying to have any sort of discussion about the sport other than my rider is better than your rider and your rider is such a ......



Well not that any of you fuckwits will care but I have had enough and like so many before me and so many that have come and gone during my time here I am pissing off some where else where a half decent discussion about MotoGP exists. This place is about on par with crash.net these days.

TP, go and review Dad's position on rossi, stoner, and the whole lot of bike racing. i'll reckon you wouldn't say that to him if you knew.



some points to ponder people:



1. troll begets troll.



2. if you didn't reply, it wouldn't persist.



3. each to their own.

frosty58 said:

if memory serves yamaha "success" that you speak of, which would have taken place in the 03 season, was one 3rd place finnish at lemans by alex barros..... 1 podium for the entire season.....not to dissimilar...... really?

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TP70 said:

Oh ....... sorry. For crying out loud what a ....... pathetic come back. It is so ....... difficult to have a debate on this forum.

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TP you gotta be kidding. YOU are the worst-freaking-offender. I'm pretty sure you don't even understand the concept of RATIONAL debate. Your response to Frost is to dis the entire forum??!!

xx CURVE xx said:

yeah we'll need a mediator

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May I come too Curve? (and I'll bring some shootin irons...)

TP70 said:

Keshav, you have totally missed the sarcasm in my comment about Yamaha. Of course Yamaha was not a back yard outfit. Yamaha is the second largest motorcycle manufacture and the second most successful manufacturer in GP history which was my point. Curve was trying to suggest that the step Rossi made from Honda to Yamaha was massive and that Casey going to Honda is a no brainer because they are the biggest. Well I am suggesting that Honda's recent success is not to dissimilar to Yamaha at the time of Rossi's defection.

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Sometimes without the emoticon - yah can't always tell when folks are being sarcastic.

xx CURVE xx said:

again...he's very good, but he aint no Doctor, he ain't no Doohan, he's not even a Gardner

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Its becoming clear that Honda see it diferently to you Curve, ie. Stoner is to be their next Doctor,Gardiner and Doohan, all in one parcel.



They are very likely trying to attract JB to the Stoner team and are probably sitting there rubbing their hands hoping Rossi goes Duc. ...... without JB.



The only question Honda has then is:

Out of Pedro and Dovi, which one is the new Criville and which the new Tadi?? .... oddly, even though he's Spanish, I think Pedro is the new Tadi !!