Joined Jul 2007
5K Posts | 1K+
unda cheese
Sorry.
Im a busy dude
Theres 14 million videos on youporn Im try to catch up with
It wasnt but a little while back a certain member was being flamed for making technical assessments via what they could observe from the grandstand.
Now you geeks are using Republican global warming type science so you can give us your armchair engineer opinion that you will undoubtedly trumpet as fact
And Khal Jumkie dont compare me to Renly.
You know perfectly well I prefer a top like Ser Loras
Joined May 2008
3K Posts | 79+
Southern Aridzona - Hell's doorstep.
KJ, you are one of the few PS members on my ignore list. Why? Because every last one of your posts is dripping with ill will and contempt. You remind me, more than anything, of a monkey at the zoo; hiding in your cage and throwing his own .... at anyone who comes near. Your sole motivation seems to be spite. What a useless person you must be.
I'm enough of a nerd to actually enjoy this ..... For that, you go out of your way to bash me? For real? It is you who evidently has nothing better to do with your useless existence than to hang out on a forum - filled with people you hold in utter contempt - and sneer at them. Bravo! That must really make your day! Talk about an empty life....
Now, do the world a favor and go jump in a meat grinder.
Joined Oct 2006
25K Posts | 4K+
Your Mom's House
Haha
JK is getting grilled.
Ive met JK. i can assure u guys hes no different than the best and worst of us (except the wackos). As geeky as any one of us, as witty, as passionate, productive citizen, resourceful, smart, and...yes, as defiant, individualistic, complex, opinionated, and antagonistic...as any one of us.
The man watches GOTs for godsake.
Carry on Geonerd. Unlock the secrets of GP bikes. Its not just a nerd/geek thing, its an illness. And as members, we are ALL sick .......s.
Ive met JK. i can assure u guys hes no different than the best and worst of us (except the wackos). As geeky as any one of us, as witty, as passionate, productive citizen, resourceful, smart, and...yes, as defiant, individualistic, complex, opinionated, and antagonistic...as any one of us.
The man watches GOTs for godsake.
Carry on Geonerd. Unlock the secrets of GP bikes. Its not just a nerd/geek thing, its an illness. And as members, we are ALL sick .......s.
Joined Jul 2007
5K Posts | 1K+
unda cheese
I suggest you take your astute analytical skill and your prowess at deducting complex and unfathomable scientific conondrums and attempt to deconfigure why your ignore button appears to be malfunctioning.
Duck. Theres some poo coming your way
The man watches GOTs for godsake.
Carry on Geonerd. Unlock the secrets of GP bikes. Its not just a nerd/geek thing, its an illness. And as members, we are ALL sick .......s.
I think this is a great thread. Much better than interminable rossi vs stoner . I never dismissed Babel either.
I was initially pissed off about the Game of Thrones TV thing because it was the reason George R R Martin took so long to write the last book, having read all the previous books as they came out. It has been perfectly realised though, with his involvement. We are only up to episode 3 of the second series (tonight actually).
It is one production where the old Monty Python promotional line for Monty Python and the Holy Grail, "lots of ... and violence but not nearly enough" would not seem to apply.
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
I wouldn't worry about the detractors at all Geo, its been a pleasure to watch you work. As a techo myself I often get that great internal pleasure that is like when your brain is full of clockwork gears then suddenly a final gear drops into place and it all gels. I took pleasure in assuming this had happened for you. I also took great personal pleasure in the fact that you "got the concept". Which I think also goes to give insight what it must be in a paddock full of techos trying to keep secrets from each other
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
What Babel did was very very different to what Geo has done ...... had he posted timelined video showing what he proposed and video evidence of it .... maybe? ...... but Babel went onto assert that because he thought Stoner was opening the throttle early ( without one singe scrap of video evidence ) he must have more TC ........ very likely a falsehood, especially given the plethora of evidence we now have on that matter.
The red line for the WSBK Aprilias is set at 14,800, from what I've heard. Given that they get through a couple of engines a race meeting (Johnny Rea used 26 engines last year) you would expect the CRT Aprilias to have their wicks turned down a fair amount, 200-300 revs. I don't know how useful this information is, but it might give you a clue of the kind of correction factor needed to apply.
Sure, I am sceptical about spotting what the throttle hand is doing from the stand. But close observations of how the bike sounds would seem to be a less sophisticated version of what you guys have been doing on this thread, particularly if you are a mechanical engineer or have ridden and/or spannered competitively. He laid claim to at least the first two and I found no reason to doubt him any more than anyone else on the forum, not that I am necessarily convinced his conclusions were correct regarding stoner and tc.
Joined Jun 2007
10K Posts | 1K+
Norah Head
Humans are subjective. In my past professions unless you could back it up by data ...... it didn't happen. We had a saying that you would like ( being a medico ) "nil by mouth", it meant lots of things and one thing:
It meant:
don't report results by mouth. Though this s often broken but aways with the provosio that, a report will follow.
don't believe what you hear or even read ..... yes read. It was about the validity of the data/method/report
document or record results
but mainly the one thing ....... have data to show what you are reporting.
Its also kinda why a lot of forum stuff is in the category of "fun". With that method that was used to analyze the data it is open and transparent, anybody can confirm it. Not so with those snippits of "opinions" etc. we often throw around here
Humans are subjective. In my past professions unless you could back it up by data ...... it didn't happen. We had a saying that you would like ( being a medico ) "nil by mouth", it meant lots of things and one thing:
It meant:
don't report results by mouth. Though this s often broken but aways with the provosio that, a report will follow.
don't believe what you hear or even read ..... yes read. It was about the validity of the data/method/report
document or record results
but mainly the one thing ....... have data to show what you are reporting.
Its also kinda why a lot of forum stuff is in the category of "fun". With that method that was used to analyze the data it is open and transparent, anybody can confirm it. Not so with those snippits of "opinions" etc. we often throw around here
Sure. In medicine the divide is between evidence based medicine and eminence based medicine. I like you have written scientific papers and textbook chapters, but I come on here as a fan and for entertainment. I am happy to see what seems a scientifically based thread like this one, but in general I don't think anyone's opinion on here including my own is better than anyone else's due to purported qualifications.
Joined Oct 2006
25K Posts | 4K+
Your Mom's House
Gaz
Mike I'm hopelessly addicted to GOT. But I didn't know it was a book until JK told me (how now serves as my all things GOT adviser, even Dothraki translator). Anyway, now that I know I can go ahead in the story (currently only following on HBO, season 2, Garden of Bones) I’m conflicted about reading the book and going ahead. The show is such a work of art! If you happen to have an iPad, you can watch using the HBO app, they have an 'extra features' you can click on and it gives you all kinds of good .....
Oh and Mike, I did discount Babel, because he wasn't recording and putting the sound through its paces. He was just going by what his human ear could discern, which as we have learned, isn't much since he was actually verifiably wrong.
ON topic,
Its fun for me to read the findings.
Mike I'm hopelessly addicted to GOT. But I didn't know it was a book until JK told me (how now serves as my all things GOT adviser, even Dothraki translator). Anyway, now that I know I can go ahead in the story (currently only following on HBO, season 2, Garden of Bones) I’m conflicted about reading the book and going ahead. The show is such a work of art! If you happen to have an iPad, you can watch using the HBO app, they have an 'extra features' you can click on and it gives you all kinds of good .....
Oh and Mike, I did discount Babel, because he wasn't recording and putting the sound through its paces. He was just going by what his human ear could discern, which as we have learned, isn't much since he was actually verifiably wrong.
ON topic,
Its fun for me to read the findings.
Joined May 2008
3K Posts | 79+
Southern Aridzona - Hell's doorstep.
Thanks.
As for a correction factor, there really shouldn't be one. You might ask the media folks, are the MotoGP broadcast videos replayed at 100% normal speed?
Or perhaps Aprillia has given the CRT teams something special.
I thought SBK has engine life regs this year? If not, you're right, Randy's 14.8 sounds pretty zippy.
I did some WSBK from Assen. The audio feed is much lower quality than MotoGP, onboard shots are rare, and those two Brit. Europsort dorks NEVER shut up. All this makes it hard to find a clean samples of unobstructed upshifting. Further, much of the sound was 'dirty,' and I was doing some occasional guessing when interpreting the waveform.
Rough numbers.
Sykes 139 1374 1407 1411
Checa 114 118
Rea 146
Laverty 137 142
Haslam 140
Numbers look pretty good, but a bit higher than I expected. Rea's bikes is the only outlying point. I don't think 27m/s is achievable with a bike that doesn't get much TLC from HRC. Rea's CBR1000RR should be doing roughly the same thing as Sykes' Kawasaki.
Looks like everyone has roughly the same shift points regardless of bore-stroke--who could have known?
Joined Feb 2009
3K Posts | 2+
siebenbürgen süße heimat!
really surprised that apparently the cbr1000 revs higher than the larger bore zx10r.a twin reving to 12k ? awesome
great work geo, thanks for posting
I'm starting to buy that maybe there is something preventing the revs from going through the roof, i can not get my head around the fact that bmw don't have at least an additional 500rpm over their competition
great work geo, thanks for posting
I'm starting to buy that maybe there is something preventing the revs from going through the roof, i can not get my head around the fact that bmw don't have at least an additional 500rpm over their competition
