<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jun 29 2009, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I somehow doubt that Troy would let her ride it
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Very interesting race weekend. Racing excitement wise it wasn't the best, but championship wise things got real interesting. When all the alarmists at the beginning of the season were saying Spies was finished, that there was no way he could recover, then a weekend like this happens. I was gutted seeing Haga go down and watch that bike tumble over him a few times. Fortunately he is doing good and honestly it couldn't have happened at a better time, as the next race (Brno) is about 4 weeks out.
Haga still has a lead in the points and it sounds likely he will ride at Brno, but it is unsure how competitive he will be. My general feelings all year are have been mixed, I still want Haga to win the overall, but I would like to see it come down to a final showdown at the end. If he does end up losing to Spies I would be happy to see Ben get a championship, but sad for Haga as the man has worked hard at winning for years.
Race 1
Good to see Biaggi keeping pace with Spies the whole race, but I knew there was no way he would try and make a pass, or if he did I was really worried it would be one in desperation. That fear was let go when Spies decided to turn it up a knotch and just pull away from him for the last few laps. Smart of Haga to not risk going at the Spies/Biaggi pace and instead pickup points for 3rd. Good rides by Haslam and Byrne. Nice result for Nakano and great ride by Hopkins for 8th.
Race 2
Hopkins not on the race starting line, later to find out he was just not fit to continue on the 2nd race. Great of him to visit Burnicle and Whitham in the Eurosport booth and give the low down on his recovery and such, good positive attitude he has. The race, a repeat of race 1 for a while with Spies and Biaggi going out fast, but Biaggi dropped it. As a matter of fact lots of people were dropping it, with Rea low siding, and Haga having a nasty crash. The warmer conditions was the blame given by most. Spies checked out. The excitement finally came with a battle for 2nd between Haslam, Byrne and Fabrizio, with Haslam prevailing. Sykes had a good ride for 5th, closing in on that pack towards the end. Simon Andrews had an impressive ride I would like to have seen more of by cutting thru a pack of WSBK regulars to take 10th on the Kawa.
WSS
Lascorz got out fast, but soon it looked to be another Crutchlow/Laverty duel. Unfortunately Laverty dropped it and Crutchlow went on to a lonely win. Laverty did however ride like a maniac to come back to 5th and pick up some important points. McCoy had a very impressive ride for 3rd on the Triumph. Looks like Yamaha might get another championship this year, Crutchlow has been riding great. I will say though, I do miss all the epic battles that we had last year in WSS with 5-10 bikes at the front.
Haga still has a lead in the points and it sounds likely he will ride at Brno, but it is unsure how competitive he will be. My general feelings all year are have been mixed, I still want Haga to win the overall, but I would like to see it come down to a final showdown at the end. If he does end up losing to Spies I would be happy to see Ben get a championship, but sad for Haga as the man has worked hard at winning for years.
Race 1
Good to see Biaggi keeping pace with Spies the whole race, but I knew there was no way he would try and make a pass, or if he did I was really worried it would be one in desperation. That fear was let go when Spies decided to turn it up a knotch and just pull away from him for the last few laps. Smart of Haga to not risk going at the Spies/Biaggi pace and instead pickup points for 3rd. Good rides by Haslam and Byrne. Nice result for Nakano and great ride by Hopkins for 8th.
Race 2
Hopkins not on the race starting line, later to find out he was just not fit to continue on the 2nd race. Great of him to visit Burnicle and Whitham in the Eurosport booth and give the low down on his recovery and such, good positive attitude he has. The race, a repeat of race 1 for a while with Spies and Biaggi going out fast, but Biaggi dropped it. As a matter of fact lots of people were dropping it, with Rea low siding, and Haga having a nasty crash. The warmer conditions was the blame given by most. Spies checked out. The excitement finally came with a battle for 2nd between Haslam, Byrne and Fabrizio, with Haslam prevailing. Sykes had a good ride for 5th, closing in on that pack towards the end. Simon Andrews had an impressive ride I would like to have seen more of by cutting thru a pack of WSBK regulars to take 10th on the Kawa.
WSS
Lascorz got out fast, but soon it looked to be another Crutchlow/Laverty duel. Unfortunately Laverty dropped it and Crutchlow went on to a lonely win. Laverty did however ride like a maniac to come back to 5th and pick up some important points. McCoy had a very impressive ride for 3rd on the Triumph. Looks like Yamaha might get another championship this year, Crutchlow has been riding great. I will say though, I do miss all the epic battles that we had last year in WSS with 5-10 bikes at the front.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Jun 29 2009, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Very interesting race weekend. Racing excitement wise it wasn't the best, but championship wise things got real interesting. When all the alarmists at the beginning of the season were saying Spies was finished, that there was no way he could recover, then a weekend like this happens. I was gutted seeing Haga go down and watch that bike tumble over him a few times. Fortunately he is doing good and honestly it couldn't have happened at a better time, as the next race (Brno) is about 4 weeks out.
Haga still has a lead in the points and it sounds likely he will ride at Brno, but it is unsure how competitive he will be. My general feelings all year are have been mixed, I still want Haga to win the overall, but I would like to see it come down to a final showdown at the end. If he does end up losing to Spies I would be happy to see Ben get a championship, but sad for Haga as the man has worked hard at winning for years.
Race 1
Good to see Biaggi keeping pace with Spies the whole race, but I knew there was no way he would try and make a pass, or if he did I was really worried it would be one in desperation. That fear was let go when Spies decided to turn it up a knotch and just pull away from him for the last few laps. Smart of Haga to not risk going at the Spies/Biaggi pace and instead pickup points for 3rd. Good rides by Haslam and Byrne. Nice result for Nakano and great ride by Hopkins for 8th.
Race 2
Hopkins not on the race starting line, later to find out he was just not fit to continue on the 2nd race. Great of him to visit Burnicle and Whitham in the Eurosport booth and give the low down on his recovery and such, good positive attitude he has. The race, a repeat of race 1 for a while with Spies and Biaggi going out fast, but Biaggi dropped it. As a matter of fact lots of people were dropping it, with Rea low siding, and Haga having a nasty crash. The warmer conditions was the blame given by most. Spies checked out. The excitement finally came with a battle for 2nd between Haslam, Byrne and Fabrizio, with Haslam prevailing. Sykes had a good ride for 5th, closing in on that pack towards the end. Simon Andrews had an impressive ride I would like to have seen more of by cutting thru a pack of WSBK regulars to take 10th on the Kawa.
WSS
Lascorz got out fast, but soon it looked to be another Crutchlow/Laverty duel. Unfortunately Laverty dropped it and Crutchlow went on to a lonely win. Laverty did however ride like a maniac to come back to 5th and pick up some important points. McCoy had a very impressive ride for 3rd on the Triumph. Looks like Yamaha might get another championship this year, Crutchlow has been riding great. I will say though, I do miss all the epic battles that we had last year in WSS with 5-10 bikes at the front.
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Haga still has a lead in the points and it sounds likely he will ride at Brno, but it is unsure how competitive he will be. My general feelings all year are have been mixed, I still want Haga to win the overall, but I would like to see it come down to a final showdown at the end. If he does end up losing to Spies I would be happy to see Ben get a championship, but sad for Haga as the man has worked hard at winning for years.
Race 1
Good to see Biaggi keeping pace with Spies the whole race, but I knew there was no way he would try and make a pass, or if he did I was really worried it would be one in desperation. That fear was let go when Spies decided to turn it up a knotch and just pull away from him for the last few laps. Smart of Haga to not risk going at the Spies/Biaggi pace and instead pickup points for 3rd. Good rides by Haslam and Byrne. Nice result for Nakano and great ride by Hopkins for 8th.
Race 2
Hopkins not on the race starting line, later to find out he was just not fit to continue on the 2nd race. Great of him to visit Burnicle and Whitham in the Eurosport booth and give the low down on his recovery and such, good positive attitude he has. The race, a repeat of race 1 for a while with Spies and Biaggi going out fast, but Biaggi dropped it. As a matter of fact lots of people were dropping it, with Rea low siding, and Haga having a nasty crash. The warmer conditions was the blame given by most. Spies checked out. The excitement finally came with a battle for 2nd between Haslam, Byrne and Fabrizio, with Haslam prevailing. Sykes had a good ride for 5th, closing in on that pack towards the end. Simon Andrews had an impressive ride I would like to have seen more of by cutting thru a pack of WSBK regulars to take 10th on the Kawa.
WSS
Lascorz got out fast, but soon it looked to be another Crutchlow/Laverty duel. Unfortunately Laverty dropped it and Crutchlow went on to a lonely win. Laverty did however ride like a maniac to come back to 5th and pick up some important points. McCoy had a very impressive ride for 3rd on the Triumph. Looks like Yamaha might get another championship this year, Crutchlow has been riding great. I will say though, I do miss all the epic battles that we had last year in WSS with 5-10 bikes at the front.
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Congrats to Spies on the double!
When all these riders started to crash in front of Haga, I though, wow, Nori is lucky, he's making up positions without even trying, then he has that nasty crash. The bike hitting him was awful. But so was that terrible crashes by Tomada & Nakano. BTW, who wants to bet me cash money that Haga will race a Brno? He's got balls of granite. Notwithstanding, I'm not gonna cry if he comes runner up again at the end of the season; because frankly, he's had his chances on a very good machine. Its no like he's Randy Mamola, where he had to overcome racing against Wayne Rainey, Kevin Schwants, Eddy Lawson, etc. Haga has had a FAIR opportunity to win the title.
As far as the title, seriously, I'm not gonna make any predictions. Sure, it looks like momentum has shifted to Spies. But all his team needs to do is give him a couple more mechanicals ( two hadd to the two he's already had) and Haga is back in business. Who said the Yamaha is the best bike in WSBK, why make statements like this if all the evidence points to the contrary? It just rubbishes your own assessment of the facts. There is a reason why the satellite Ducatis regularly beat and dice with other factory Jap bikes. BTW, I don't think its the extra 200ccs, but I do think they have some allowances and torque advantage that make them better.
Oh, Biaggi made it interesting in race one, but race two was like AMA. What's up with Biaggi's re-entry into the race? Geez he almost killed himself and another rider because he was angry at himself.
Not sure what to make of Blake Young's performance. I really thought he'd at very least be in the top 15. At least he did alot better in race 2. I still have hope for him. Hacking didn't do much better, but I can not really blame him, Kawasaki suck. I sat and watched the race with Cali Kid, we both laughed as the camera panned to the train of the bikes and as the pack passed toward the last riders, the color of the bikes got decidedly green. Cali Kid said, "Green--the official color of the back of the pack". Hahahaha.
Also, WTF Roger, you actually watched a WSBK race? Welcome to the new series that puts racers above mouse traps.
You think Rossi would have been unfurling that banner had he spent a few years on a Suzuki, Kawasaki, Ducati, or 800 Honda for that matter?
When all these riders started to crash in front of Haga, I though, wow, Nori is lucky, he's making up positions without even trying, then he has that nasty crash. The bike hitting him was awful. But so was that terrible crashes by Tomada & Nakano. BTW, who wants to bet me cash money that Haga will race a Brno? He's got balls of granite. Notwithstanding, I'm not gonna cry if he comes runner up again at the end of the season; because frankly, he's had his chances on a very good machine. Its no like he's Randy Mamola, where he had to overcome racing against Wayne Rainey, Kevin Schwants, Eddy Lawson, etc. Haga has had a FAIR opportunity to win the title.
As far as the title, seriously, I'm not gonna make any predictions. Sure, it looks like momentum has shifted to Spies. But all his team needs to do is give him a couple more mechanicals ( two hadd to the two he's already had) and Haga is back in business. Who said the Yamaha is the best bike in WSBK, why make statements like this if all the evidence points to the contrary? It just rubbishes your own assessment of the facts. There is a reason why the satellite Ducatis regularly beat and dice with other factory Jap bikes. BTW, I don't think its the extra 200ccs, but I do think they have some allowances and torque advantage that make them better.
Oh, Biaggi made it interesting in race one, but race two was like AMA. What's up with Biaggi's re-entry into the race? Geez he almost killed himself and another rider because he was angry at himself.
Not sure what to make of Blake Young's performance. I really thought he'd at very least be in the top 15. At least he did alot better in race 2. I still have hope for him. Hacking didn't do much better, but I can not really blame him, Kawasaki suck. I sat and watched the race with Cali Kid, we both laughed as the camera panned to the train of the bikes and as the pack passed toward the last riders, the color of the bikes got decidedly green. Cali Kid said, "Green--the official color of the back of the pack". Hahahaha.
Also, WTF Roger, you actually watched a WSBK race? Welcome to the new series that puts racers above mouse traps.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 29 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>who wants to bet me cash money that Haga will race a Brno? He's got balls of granite.
Maybe that's why, given Sunday's practically identical crash to Bayliss two years ago, he didn't end up cracking one open too.
Regarding Biaggi, he's made a career out of .... like that..both on and off track. Seriously he does it on his paddock scooter, and in pit lane. Remember the incident coming out of the garage when he was team mate to Nicky?..and Hodgson had to be dragged off him once. Then there was the incident with Melandri in qualifying at Assen, to which Marco retaliated with a nudge to the bars which almost dethroned the 'Roman Emperor' , and when he arrived in Parc Ferme Max's Uncle vaulted the barrier and tried to throttle him resulting in a lifetime ban from the paddock. Tantamount to Max's eventual exile himself for repeatedly being such a ....
Maybe that's why, given Sunday's practically identical crash to Bayliss two years ago, he didn't end up cracking one open too.
Regarding Biaggi, he's made a career out of .... like that..both on and off track. Seriously he does it on his paddock scooter, and in pit lane. Remember the incident coming out of the garage when he was team mate to Nicky?..and Hodgson had to be dragged off him once. Then there was the incident with Melandri in qualifying at Assen, to which Marco retaliated with a nudge to the bars which almost dethroned the 'Roman Emperor' , and when he arrived in Parc Ferme Max's Uncle vaulted the barrier and tried to throttle him resulting in a lifetime ban from the paddock. Tantamount to Max's eventual exile himself for repeatedly being such a ....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jun 29 2009, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Regarding Biaggi
This is one case where a doc in points or some kind of penalty would have been warranted.
This is one case where a doc in points or some kind of penalty would have been warranted.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Jun 29 2009, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Very interesting race weekend. Racing excitement wise it wasn't the best, but championship wise things got real interesting. When all the alarmists at the beginning of the season were saying Spies was finished, that there was no way he could recover, then a weekend like this happens. I was gutted seeing Haga go down and watch that bike tumble over him a few times. Fortunately he is doing good and honestly it couldn't have happened at a better time, as the next race (Brno) is about 4 weeks out.
Haga still has a lead in the points and it sounds likely he will ride at Brno, but it is unsure how competitive he will be. My general feelings all year are have been mixed, I still want Haga to win the overall, but I would like to see it come down to a final showdown at the end. If he does end up losing to Spies I would be happy to see Ben get a championship, but sad for Haga as the man has worked hard at winning for years.
Race 1
Good to see Biaggi keeping pace with Spies the whole race, but I knew there was no way he would try and make a pass, or if he did I was really worried it would be one in desperation. That fear was let go when Spies decided to turn it up a knotch and just pull away from him for the last few laps. Smart of Haga to not risk going at the Spies/Biaggi pace and instead pickup points for 3rd. Good rides by Haslam and Byrne. Nice result for Nakano and great ride by Hopkins for 8th.
Race 2
Hopkins not on the race starting line, later to find out he was just not fit to continue on the 2nd race. Great of him to visit Burnicle and Whitham in the Eurosport booth and give the low down on his recovery and such, good positive attitude he has. The race, a repeat of race 1 for a while with Spies and Biaggi going out fast, but Biaggi dropped it. As a matter of fact lots of people were dropping it, with Rea low siding, and Haga having a nasty crash. The warmer conditions was the blame given by most. Spies checked out. The excitement finally came with a battle for 2nd between Haslam, Byrne and Fabrizio, with Haslam prevailing. Sykes had a good ride for 5th, closing in on that pack towards the end. Simon Andrews had an impressive ride I would like to have seen more of by cutting thru a pack of WSBK regulars to take 10th on the Kawa.
WSS
Lascorz got out fast, but soon it looked to be another Crutchlow/Laverty duel. Unfortunately Laverty dropped it and Crutchlow went on to a lonely win. Laverty did however ride like a maniac to come back to 5th and pick up some important points. McCoy had a very impressive ride for 3rd on the Triumph. Looks like Yamaha might get another championship this year, Crutchlow has been riding great. I will say though, I do miss all the epic battles that we had last year in WSS with 5-10 bikes at the front.
Nice analysis except for one thing,the second race was over long before Biaggi dropped it on the 4th lap. Biaggi got the start and i was thinking, i hope it doesnt take Ben long to get past him and give Haga some kind of hope of hanging on the front. No worries, by turn 2, Spies was past and checking out. The first lap, he put almost 5/10ths of a second on Biaggi,even though Biaggi got the start. The second lap, he put another 7/10ths and the 3rd lap, he put another 6/10ths and was leading by 1.8 seconds when Biaggi binned it. The temperature for race 2 was was more like the temperature for free practice where Spies was cracking out lap after lap that were 1/2 a second faster than anyone. Thats when i predicted Spies would run away with both races. I was half right. With cooler temps for the first race , it helped Biaggi run much faster than he was able to run when the track heated up for race 2. His drop in times from race one were way more than Spies and i believe he and Haga binned it trying to keep Spies from getting away, which was an act of futility because he had already gotten away.
Haga still has a lead in the points and it sounds likely he will ride at Brno, but it is unsure how competitive he will be. My general feelings all year are have been mixed, I still want Haga to win the overall, but I would like to see it come down to a final showdown at the end. If he does end up losing to Spies I would be happy to see Ben get a championship, but sad for Haga as the man has worked hard at winning for years.
Race 1
Good to see Biaggi keeping pace with Spies the whole race, but I knew there was no way he would try and make a pass, or if he did I was really worried it would be one in desperation. That fear was let go when Spies decided to turn it up a knotch and just pull away from him for the last few laps. Smart of Haga to not risk going at the Spies/Biaggi pace and instead pickup points for 3rd. Good rides by Haslam and Byrne. Nice result for Nakano and great ride by Hopkins for 8th.
Race 2
Hopkins not on the race starting line, later to find out he was just not fit to continue on the 2nd race. Great of him to visit Burnicle and Whitham in the Eurosport booth and give the low down on his recovery and such, good positive attitude he has. The race, a repeat of race 1 for a while with Spies and Biaggi going out fast, but Biaggi dropped it. As a matter of fact lots of people were dropping it, with Rea low siding, and Haga having a nasty crash. The warmer conditions was the blame given by most. Spies checked out. The excitement finally came with a battle for 2nd between Haslam, Byrne and Fabrizio, with Haslam prevailing. Sykes had a good ride for 5th, closing in on that pack towards the end. Simon Andrews had an impressive ride I would like to have seen more of by cutting thru a pack of WSBK regulars to take 10th on the Kawa.
WSS
Lascorz got out fast, but soon it looked to be another Crutchlow/Laverty duel. Unfortunately Laverty dropped it and Crutchlow went on to a lonely win. Laverty did however ride like a maniac to come back to 5th and pick up some important points. McCoy had a very impressive ride for 3rd on the Triumph. Looks like Yamaha might get another championship this year, Crutchlow has been riding great. I will say though, I do miss all the epic battles that we had last year in WSS with 5-10 bikes at the front.
Nice analysis except for one thing,the second race was over long before Biaggi dropped it on the 4th lap. Biaggi got the start and i was thinking, i hope it doesnt take Ben long to get past him and give Haga some kind of hope of hanging on the front. No worries, by turn 2, Spies was past and checking out. The first lap, he put almost 5/10ths of a second on Biaggi,even though Biaggi got the start. The second lap, he put another 7/10ths and the 3rd lap, he put another 6/10ths and was leading by 1.8 seconds when Biaggi binned it. The temperature for race 2 was was more like the temperature for free practice where Spies was cracking out lap after lap that were 1/2 a second faster than anyone. Thats when i predicted Spies would run away with both races. I was half right. With cooler temps for the first race , it helped Biaggi run much faster than he was able to run when the track heated up for race 2. His drop in times from race one were way more than Spies and i believe he and Haga binned it trying to keep Spies from getting away, which was an act of futility because he had already gotten away.
I've been impressed with Crutchlow's rookie season performance. At first I wasn't sure about his move from the BSB Superbike class to the SBK Supersport class, but it appears to have been a wise move. I wonder if they'll move him up to Superbike next year with a season's worth of track knowledge and possibly the Supersport title.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jun 29 2009, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and Hodgson had to be dragged off him once.
I don't remeber that one...details?
I don't remeber that one...details?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jun 29 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe that's why, given Sunday's practically identical crash to Bayliss two years ago, he didn't end up cracking one open too.
Regarding Biaggi, he's made a career out of .... like that..both on and off track. Seriously he does it on his paddock scooter, and in pit lane. Remember the incident coming out of the garage when he was team mate to Nicky?..and Hodgson had to be dragged off him once. Then there was the incident with Melandri in qualifying at Assen, to which Marco retaliated with a nudge to the bars which almost dethroned the 'Roman Emperor' , and when he arrived in Parc Ferme Max's Uncle vaulted the barrier and tried to throttle him resulting in a lifetime ban from the paddock. Tantamount to Max's eventual exile himself for repeatedly being such a ....
As it turns out, Max's ankle injury was from the contact on his untimely re-entry to the track,not from the crash itself. That could have been an extremely ugly accident,some kind of punishment is in order.
Regarding Biaggi, he's made a career out of .... like that..both on and off track. Seriously he does it on his paddock scooter, and in pit lane. Remember the incident coming out of the garage when he was team mate to Nicky?..and Hodgson had to be dragged off him once. Then there was the incident with Melandri in qualifying at Assen, to which Marco retaliated with a nudge to the bars which almost dethroned the 'Roman Emperor' , and when he arrived in Parc Ferme Max's Uncle vaulted the barrier and tried to throttle him resulting in a lifetime ban from the paddock. Tantamount to Max's eventual exile himself for repeatedly being such a ....
As it turns out, Max's ankle injury was from the contact on his untimely re-entry to the track,not from the crash itself. That could have been an extremely ugly accident,some kind of punishment is in order.
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I wonder how many BBQs Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo, & Peders have together?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Taken to hospital with a suspected fractured vertebra, Spies revealed deep concern for his rival and friend.
“We were supposed to have a barbecue this weekend, but it doesn't sound like he is doing too good right now. I gave Davide Tardozzi [Haga's team manager] my number and told him to call me. I just want to know he is fine. I saw the replay and it was a bad one – hopefully he will be at Brno.”
BTW, good news for Haga.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Haga undergoes successful operation
Noriyuki Haga will travel home to Italy today having undergone a successful operation to his fractured ulna, where doctors inserted a plate and screws to set the bone.
Haga was operated on at Derby Hospital, just a day after his vicious accident during the second World Superbike Championship race at Donington Park, with doctors labelling the surgery as having been successful with no unforeseen complications.
In addition, however, closer inspection has revealed that the shoulder pain Haga was suffering was due to multiple fractures in the left scapula. However, it will not need surgical intervention and won't prolong his overall recovery process.
Set to be discharged today [Tuesday], Ducati Xerox rider Haga will not be present at the upcoming mid-season tests at Imola, but he is expected to compete in the next round at Brno, Czech Republic. crash.net
Speedy recovery Haga. We want to see a duel to the end.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Taken to hospital with a suspected fractured vertebra, Spies revealed deep concern for his rival and friend.
“We were supposed to have a barbecue this weekend, but it doesn't sound like he is doing too good right now. I gave Davide Tardozzi [Haga's team manager] my number and told him to call me. I just want to know he is fine. I saw the replay and it was a bad one – hopefully he will be at Brno.”
BTW, good news for Haga.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Haga undergoes successful operation
Noriyuki Haga will travel home to Italy today having undergone a successful operation to his fractured ulna, where doctors inserted a plate and screws to set the bone.
Haga was operated on at Derby Hospital, just a day after his vicious accident during the second World Superbike Championship race at Donington Park, with doctors labelling the surgery as having been successful with no unforeseen complications.
In addition, however, closer inspection has revealed that the shoulder pain Haga was suffering was due to multiple fractures in the left scapula. However, it will not need surgical intervention and won't prolong his overall recovery process.
Set to be discharged today [Tuesday], Ducati Xerox rider Haga will not be present at the upcoming mid-season tests at Imola, but he is expected to compete in the next round at Brno, Czech Republic. crash.net
Speedy recovery Haga. We want to see a duel to the end.
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One thing he has going for him is there is only 1 race in the next 8 weeks, which i think is total ......... These damn European summer breaks are something i have never understood, nor liked. Its to much time and kills momentum of the season and as far as im conserned, costs them fans who might just be tuning in and bam,basically 2 months without racing.Hell,they think the season is over and go on to something else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 1 2009, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>One thing he has going for him is there is only 1 race in the next 8 weeks, which i think is total ......... These damn European summer breaks are something i have never understood, nor liked. Its to much time and kills momentum of the season and as far as im conserned, costs them fans who might just be tuning in and bam,basically 2 months without racing.Hell,they think the season is over and go on to something else.
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It;s because alot of people here in Europe go on holyday etc and otherwise they would miss the races.
Hope to see Haga back on form with fire in his eyes Hagakiri style in Brno, Last year he got the double on the Nurburgring with a broken colourbone so that shouldn't be the problem. He doesn't have to play it safe anymore so hope he will return to his old self (not the crashing wise of last year but more like the winning wise of 07
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It;s because alot of people here in Europe go on holyday etc and otherwise they would miss the races.
Hope to see Haga back on form with fire in his eyes Hagakiri style in Brno, Last year he got the double on the Nurburgring with a broken colourbone so that shouldn't be the problem. He doesn't have to play it safe anymore so hope he will return to his old self (not the crashing wise of last year but more like the winning wise of 07
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (heyhuub @ Jul 1 2009, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He doesn't have to play it safe anymore so hope he will return to his old self (not the crashing wise of last year but more like the winning wise of 07
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His old self never won him a championship, why would you want him to return? I can only think it's for your own selfish reasons. He needs to go back to his consistency like he displayed at the start of the season and hope that Spies has issues. That's the only way that he is going to win IMO.
His old self never won him a championship, why would you want him to return? I can only think it's for your own selfish reasons. He needs to go back to his consistency like he displayed at the start of the season and hope that Spies has issues. That's the only way that he is going to win IMO.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jul 1 2009, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>His old self never won him a championship, why would you want him to return? I can only think it's for your own selfish reasons. He needs to go back to his consistency like he displayed at the start of the season and hope that Spies has issues. That's the only way that he is going to win IMO.
I see your point but consistent can be good or bad. Nori can be fast but Ben is pushing him past his comfort zone. Ben is just faster and without those silly assed technical gremlins,this championship would be over.Nori has really only beat Ben straight up i believe in 2 races, when neither had an issue or a crash. Nori's consistency coincided with Bens misfortune and as a result,he built a huge lead. Spies continued to be fast and the points started coming off a little here and a little there and Nori started to push and i think we are seeing the results of the pressure that Spies has applied.As far as luck,they have both had ...... luck and lost points because of it but Spies bad luck didnt break down his body. The bird strike to Nori's arm and subsequent wreck from loss of feeling in his arm has snowballed. He went down hard in that race and got beat up on top of having a torn muscle in his arm.He really hasnt been the same since and was pushing to run even in the top 2 -3 and has busted his ... big time now. I cant imagine him being top 7-8 in the next race.The wrist and shoulder blade is going to be the problem, mainly the wrist,the back is a more of a nusance. His braking would almost have to suffer.
I see your point but consistent can be good or bad. Nori can be fast but Ben is pushing him past his comfort zone. Ben is just faster and without those silly assed technical gremlins,this championship would be over.Nori has really only beat Ben straight up i believe in 2 races, when neither had an issue or a crash. Nori's consistency coincided with Bens misfortune and as a result,he built a huge lead. Spies continued to be fast and the points started coming off a little here and a little there and Nori started to push and i think we are seeing the results of the pressure that Spies has applied.As far as luck,they have both had ...... luck and lost points because of it but Spies bad luck didnt break down his body. The bird strike to Nori's arm and subsequent wreck from loss of feeling in his arm has snowballed. He went down hard in that race and got beat up on top of having a torn muscle in his arm.He really hasnt been the same since and was pushing to run even in the top 2 -3 and has busted his ... big time now. I cant imagine him being top 7-8 in the next race.The wrist and shoulder blade is going to be the problem, mainly the wrist,the back is a more of a nusance. His braking would almost have to suffer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 1 2009, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I see your point but consistent can be good or bad. Nori can be fast but Ben is pushing him past his comfort zone. Ben is just faster and without those silly assed technical gremlins,this championship would be over.Nori has really only beat Ben straight up i believe in 2 races, when neither had an issue or a crash. Nori's consistency coincided with Bens misfortune and as a result,he built a huge lead. Spies continued to be fast and the points started coming off a little here and a little there and Nori started to push and i think we are seeing the results of the pressure that Spies has applied.As far as luck,they have both had ...... luck and lost points because of it but Spies bad luck didnt break down his body. The bird strike to Nori's arm and subsequent wreck from loss of feeling in his arm has snowballed. He went down hard in that race and got beat up on top of having a torn muscle in his arm.He really hasnt been the same since and was pushing to run even in the top 2 -3 and has busted his ... big time now. I cant imagine him being top 7-8 in the next race.The wrist and shoulder blade is going to be the problem, mainly the wrist,the back is a more of a nusance. His braking would almost have to suffer.
If Nori would have not pushed it and placed second third or fourth, which I think that he can get without too much dificulty he would have easily won this year. He had an 87 point lead. He should have been a cruising caretaker and collected valuable points each round and by the end of the year it would have been his. A lot of people including Spies knew how important his clutch problem was at Misano, they thought that was the last straw. Then we have Donington where Haga really ...... up. He didn't need to push it when he was in second and people were dropping like flies. That is the old Nori. Now he is in a bad position.
If Nori would have not pushed it and placed second third or fourth, which I think that he can get without too much dificulty he would have easily won this year. He had an 87 point lead. He should have been a cruising caretaker and collected valuable points each round and by the end of the year it would have been his. A lot of people including Spies knew how important his clutch problem was at Misano, they thought that was the last straw. Then we have Donington where Haga really ...... up. He didn't need to push it when he was in second and people were dropping like flies. That is the old Nori. Now he is in a bad position.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jul 1 2009, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If Nori would have not pushed it and placed second third or fourth, which I think that he can get without too much dificulty he would have easily won this year. He had an 87 point lead. He should have been a cruising caretaker and collected valuable points each round and by the end of the year it would have been his. A lot of people including Spies knew how important his clutch problem was at Misano, they thought that was the last straw. Then we have Donington where Haga really ...... up. He didn't need to push it when he was in second and people were dropping like flies. That is the old Nori. Now he is in a bad position.
Top post EXCEPT the Cruising Caretaker reference. WTF.
....... Nori, despite me rooting for Spies this year, Nitro has provided half the fun of dicing it up. I wouldnt mind seeing him get a title, but this is a reminder that titles are 'earned' over an entire season. Again, i hope a speedy recovery. Seeing Spies run away with it will be boring.
Top post EXCEPT the Cruising Caretaker reference. WTF.
....... Nori, despite me rooting for Spies this year, Nitro has provided half the fun of dicing it up. I wouldnt mind seeing him get a title, but this is a reminder that titles are 'earned' over an entire season. Again, i hope a speedy recovery. Seeing Spies run away with it will be boring.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 1 2009, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Top post EXCEPT the Cruising Caretaker reference. WTF.
Yeah, when you have an 87 point lead everyone knows you should take it easy and not go highsiding while trying to catch the runaway leader. That was a rookie mistake from a seasoned veteren. If Spies has the championship by the next 3 races I will declare Mladin...well let's not go to far.
Yeah, when you have an 87 point lead everyone knows you should take it easy and not go highsiding while trying to catch the runaway leader. That was a rookie mistake from a seasoned veteren. If Spies has the championship by the next 3 races I will declare Mladin...well let's not go to far.
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