Dani Pedrosa?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(koskal @ Sep 23 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]92804[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
exactly. it does'nt stop highsides, but it's very helpfull on this matter.

We can't have it banned because Rossi will win all the races and all the youth will highside. Which is gonna be boring.


Rubbish. They don't have TC in 125/250s. It just means that the best riders will win. Surely that's what racing is about.

Yes, read again what i wrote, Yamaka46. I was just a little ironic there

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Sep 23 2007, 01:22 PM) [snapback]92777[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i wonder if dani had a tc problem because he got highsided, very unusual these days.


He was riding flat out in mixed conditions on a shagged wet tyre, i'm not surprised the rear end broke away.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Sep 23 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]92779[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yeah I wondered if the thing siezed!!??? .... just looked like the back suddenly had its own mind!!
Bummer .... just when things were looking good for him.

Hopefully he'll be ready for PI.


I am pretty confident it didn't sieze, its not a 2-stroke and it didn't behave like a siezure at all.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yamaka46 @ Sep 23 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]92809[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Rubbish. They don't have TC in 125/250s. It just means that the best riders will win. Surely that's what racing is about.


Motogp still has that too, TC is just a technical element like any other, some bikes perform better than others.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yamaka46 @ Sep 23 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]92800[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
TC does NOT stop highsides. Look at Melandri at Misano. TC does what you "program" it to do - it is not a panacea. Oh, and it makes the racing less about the rider and more about the calibrator. Ban it.

this mabe true but the fact is, since tc has been used highsides are rare.
wasn't melandi highsided because he ran off the edge of the track (something not calibrated) ? dani was still on tarmac i think ?

also i thought tc was introduced as a safety measure to prevent highsides, even tho we all no it was quicker and made the bikes a lot easer to ride fast.

Today Dani went off track as far as I saw. He went on the inside of the corner, went onto the grass, and because of a slight height difference between the grass and the side of the track, he lost it. Maybe I saw wrong?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IsraeliRacer @ Sep 24 2007, 02:15 AM) [snapback]92823[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Today Dani went off track as far as I saw. He went on the inside of the corner, went onto the grass, and because of a slight height difference between the grass and the side of the track, he lost it. Maybe I saw wrong?


No Racer...that should be "because of a slight height difference between the grass and Pedrobot'...

He lost the bike before it went off the track. In slow motion you can see the bike coming around and dani trying to bring it back on course. Then he hits the inside white line, the front catches, and he highsides.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Sep 23 2007, 05:03 PM) [snapback]92821[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
this mabe true but the fact is, since tc has been used highsides are rare.
wasn't melandi highsided because he ran off the edge of the track (something not calibrated) ? dani was still on tarmac i think ?

also i thought tc was introduced as a safety measure to prevent highsides, even tho we all no it was quicker and made the bikes a lot easer to ride fast.


TC was not "introduced" per se. It is simply a technology that is available and has not been outlawed.

Melandri touched the astroturf when on full noise. I doubt he'd have been on it quite so hard at that point in the circuit without the TC.

That is the danger of TC - the riders start to rely on it and use more throttle than they would without, expecting the electronics to cut back the throttle applied when the traction starts to fail. Unfortunately for Melandri he went from hot dry asphalt to wet astroturf in a split second and we all saw the result.

As I said in my previous post, TC is NOT a panacea.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(koskal @ Sep 23 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]92810[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yes, read again what i wrote, Yamaka46. I was just a little ironic there


Fair comment.

I don't see what's there to talk about, he is the 3rd in the campionship ranks, which means that except for the top 2, he is the fastest rider. I for one, think he is a talented young man who holds great promise. He has learned a lot since he came in the moto gp. He is not the same Pedrosa who crashes into teammates. Next year we're gonna have 5 important riders: Rossi, Stoner, Melandri, Lorenzo and Pedrosa. With the experience gathered from this year especially, he will prove that he is one of the best.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Sep 23 2007, 04:54 AM) [snapback]92768[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
why are some of you going at dani ? i can see your post is tong and cheek but some (pinky) are not ? i just dont understand where this is coming from !


Somebody made the mistake of asking for our honest opinions and it jumped ugly.

Anyways, here is a tribute to Dani's hero.



Dani wears Casey Stoner pajamas with #27 on the ... flap.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IsraeliRacer @ Sep 23 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]92823[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Today Dani went off track as far as I saw. He went on the inside of the corner, went onto the grass, and because of a slight height difference between the grass and the side of the track, he lost it. Maybe I saw wrong?

just watched it again and from the angle i saw, dani was already mid crash before his front wheel touched the white line on the inside of the track. it almost looked like he banged it down to many gears forcing it to go sideways then the tyre hooked up spitting him off, done that a couple of time's on my motard. mabe it was a slipper clutch problem ? doubt the big H will ever tell us.

Damn shame for Dani,the lad was doing well up to that point,reckon he`s going to be a force in 08.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Sep 24 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]92924[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
mabe it was a slipper clutch problem ? doubt the big H will ever tell us.



yeah I checked the vid for seizing .... the wheel was still turning when it was on its side in the gravel ... so yeah maybe not seizing but .... it did seem to loose it at the back for no reason so maybe it was slipper or something???

Dani is very close to being a top rider but i'm thinking thats it now. He can't control these bikes as well as others due to no fault technically. Its physical and hes a push over.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Sep 24 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]92956[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Dani is very close to being a top rider but i'm thinking thats it now. He can't control these bikes as well as others due to no fault technically. Its physical and hes a push over.

He`s still a young man,plenty of time to get to Loris stature.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Sep 24 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]92956[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Dani is very close to being a top rider but i'm thinking thats it now. He can't control these bikes as well as others due to no fault technically. Its physical and hes a push over.


well it looked more mechanical than physical at motegi, i think dani is a lot stronger than people think.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DRILL666 @ Sep 24 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]92957[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
He`s still a young man,plenty of time to get to Loris stature.