Dakar Rally CANCELLED

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(povol @ Jan 5 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]105891[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Dude,I dont know what your news source is,but if its the main stream media,you get one side of a very liberal agenda.I can honestly say that i have lost absolutley NONE<NATA<ZERO of my daily life civil liberties. .Now if you skate around on the edge of legality for a living,that would be a different story.If you are plotting against this country,yea,you got a problem.
To answer your silly ? should we nuke them,i say,not just yet,but it should be known, that it is on the table.I have no problem with how we are going about things except i wish they would turn up the heat,quit playing political games and go for the throat.



wow you are really mindless

go for the throat of what exactly an enemy you can see only in your head

That sucks. Like Curve said, we get zero coverage here in the states.

Maybe they could do a race back and forth across Australia! Imagine all the joey bashin and toad splatin:lol:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(povol @ Jan 5 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]105891[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Dude,I dont know what your news source is,but if its the main stream media,you get one side of a very liberal agenda.I can honestly say that i have lost absolutley NONE<NATA<ZERO of my daily life civil liberties. .Now if you skate around on the edge of legality for a living,that would be a different story.If you are plotting against this country,yea,you got a problem.
To answer your silly ? should we nuke them,i say,not just yet,but it should be known, that it is on the table.I have no problem with how we are going about things except i wish they would turn up the heat,quit playing political games and go for the throat.

Go read your so-called "Patriot Act" mate. Wanna see your freedoms being eroded? They're right there in black and white if you bothered to take the time. Now, I really don't care if you want your country to go down this path, but stupid governments here in Oz follow the lead of your country and start taking away my rights, and it ..... me.
How long is your "War On Terror" gonna last? Already into it's 7th year with no success whatsoever. Why don't you go learn some history about the rest of the world and maybe you will get some enlightenment as to why other people are trying to attack the USA. Stop being so blinkered.

Well I'm not so sure they should have cancelled the race. Its not like they give a .... about all the fukers that die in the race every year anyway.

As far as the terrorist thing. Yes, the US as gone all wrong about it in Iraq (we should have just chased Osama in Afghan and been done with it). Unfortunately, the power was in the hands of a few evil business men (and a few women) who stood to make untold millions of dollars from war profiteering and God knows what else at the expense of tax payers and innocent lives. But lets not go crazy and say chasing terrorist is such a bad thing. We should go after these fools in what ever way is effective. However, if we really want to destroy terrorism, I think we (and what I mean by ‘we’ is first tier developed countries, not just the US) should stop doing what ever it is that creates these terrorists; for example oppressive international politics. But I also think its wrong to lay the blame on the US for the world's woes. Its not like plenty of countries are destroying themselves, without our help by engaging in civil wars, totalitarian regimes, and extremists views about religion and humanity. So there is plenty of blame to go around. Our politicians have stopped working for the people who democratically elected them and are working predominately for those who put up the money to elect them. Don't self-righteously think that Australia and Great Britain are immune to this problem (that includes the Irish).


And for the record, the Irish flag on the avatar is a bit difficult to distinguish its colors.




Side note: I think religion, more specifically; religious fundamentalism (that's any religion) is the problem in this world. Now couple these two things: greed for money and religious fundamentalism; what you get are plenty of terrorists, some blowing themselves up and some running countries.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Jan 5 2008, 06:17 AM) [snapback]105913[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>


And for the record, the Irish flag on the avatar is a bit difficult to distinguish its colors.




the flag it a perfect green, white and gold on my monitor

could click on my profile if unsure rather than to assume im british then italian

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]105916[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
the flag it a perfect green, white and gold on my monitor

could click on my profile if unsure rather than to assume im british then italian

Get over it, it was a simple mistake from the guy.

Who really gives a ...., the Irish are like Brits anyway (they both have a hard on for a certain Italian).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Jan 5 2008, 06:42 AM) [snapback]105918[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Get over it, it was a simple mistake from the guy.

Who really gives a ...., the Irish are like Brits anyway.


get over it, how bout go .... yourself you brought it up again

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]105916[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
the flag it a perfect green, white and gold on my monitor


Hahahahahahaha, you are Irish and you don't know that your flag has orange in it? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Jan 5 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]105920[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Hahahahahahaha, you are Irish and you don't know that your flag has orange in it? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!



its gold toss bag not orange it would never be orange, tells how much you know

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]105919[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
get over it, how bout go .... yourself you brought it up again

The tri-color flag of Ireland pictured above was based on that of France and first used in 1848. The green represents the Catholic, Gaelic and Anglo-Norman communities, the <u><span style="color:#FF6600orange</u> represents the planter group of Northern Ireland while the white center signifies a hope of peace and trust between the two.

I guess they should make an IQ requirement to use this site.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]105921[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
its gold toss bag not orange it would never be orange, tells how much you know

The above is from your country's description of your flag.


Now, I can come up with some creative insults like you have done, but really, I think you've shown everybody lucky enough to read this thread what an ass you've made of yourself without my help.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Jan 5 2008, 06:52 AM) [snapback]105922[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
The tri-color flag of Ireland pictured above was based on that of France and first used in 1848. The green represents the Catholic, Gaelic and Anglo-Norman communities, the <u><span style="color:#FF6600orange</u> represents the planter group of Northern Ireland while the white center signifies a hope of peace and trust between the two.

I guess they should make an IQ requirement to use this site.
The above is from your country's description of your flag.
Now, I can come up with some creative insults like you have done, but really, I think you've shown everybody lucky enough to read this thread what an ass you've made of yourself without my help.



"Article 7 of "Bunreacht na hEireann" ( constitution of Ireland) states "The National Flag is the Tricolour of Green, White and Orange." This flag didn't come into general usage until the war of independance (1919-1921). Prior to this, the green flag with gold harp was the main symbol of nationalism. Indeed this flag flew over the G.P.O during the 1916 Rising. There have been many prior attempts to initiate a national flag. Green and Orange horizontal stripes had been used by some as early as the 18th century. But only at the creation of the first "Dail" ( House of Representatives / Commons) did the current Tricolour become widely used.

There is some debate as to the true colours of the flag. The usual symbolism is the green stands for the Catholics, the orange for the Protestants and white for peace between them. Some say that the flag is gold as opposed to orange, from the gold harp on the original Green Flag.

This confusion arose in the 1916-22 period when the tricolour (the current national flag and ensign), which had previously been quite a marginal and little-known flag, was supplanting the Green Flag (the current jack) as the principal national emblem. Green and gold, the colours of the Green Flag, were regarded as the national colours throughout the nineteenth century and some of the home-made tricolours from the 1916-22 period were in fact green, white and gold. There are also some songs from that period which refer to 'green, white and gold' flags and this helped to keep the concept alive, but the symbolism of the green, white and orange dates from 1848."


i am one of those that say the flag is gold, are your done trying to belittle me

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]105925[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>


This confusion arose in the 1916-22 period when the tricolour (the current national flag and ensign), which had previously been quite a marginal and little-known flag, was supplanting the Green Flag (the current jack) as the principal national emblem. Green and gold, the colours of the Green Flag, were regarded as the national colours throughout the nineteenth century and some of the home-made tricolours from the 1916-22 period were in fact green, white and gold. There are also some songs from that period which refer to 'green, white and gold' flags and this helped to keep the concept alive, but the symbolism of the green, white and orange dates from 1848."
i am one of those that say the flag is gold, are your done trying to belittle me

That is because you are confused!



• orange — standing for Irish Protestants
• green — signifying Irish Catholics and the republican cause
• white — representing the hope for peace between them

Why Orange?

The color orange is associated with Northern Irish Protestants because of William of Orange (William III), the King of England, Scotland, and Ireland who in 1690 defeated the deposed King James II, a Roman Catholic, in the fateful Battle of the Boyne near Dublin. William III's victory secured Protestant dominance over the island, to the enormous benefit of the 17th-century colonizers of northern Ireland — the English (mainly Anglicans) and Scots (mostly Presbyterians). Sometimes called Orangemen, Protestants in Northern Ireland celebrate the anniversary of the battle each July 12th.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Jan 5 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]105926[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
That is because you are confused!

• orange — standing for Irish Protestants
• green — signifying Irish Catholics and the republican cause
• white — representing the hope for peace between them

Why Orange?

The color orange is associated with Northern Irish Protestants because of William of Orange (William III), the King of England, Scotland, and Ireland who in 1690 defeated the deposed King James II, a Roman Catholic, in the fateful Battle of the Boyne near Dublin. William III's victory secured Protestant dominance over the island, to the enormous benefit of the 17th-century colonizers of northern Ireland — the English (mainly Anglicans) and Scots (mostly Presbyterians). Sometimes called Orangemen, Protestants in Northern Ireland celebrate the anniversary of the battle each July 12th.


we should have started our own threat for this

i know what the colours stand for

as stated in my last post we down the south like to keep the gold because in our original flag we had a gold harp and rather have an association with the orange men we have gold on our flags

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]105925[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

i am one of those that say the flag is gold, are your done trying to belittle me

Count the number of insults you threw that I ignored. You belittled yourself by trying to tease another guy from making an honest mistake, then you showed the world that you yourself don't know what you are talking about, so you came up with some obscure explanation. Your fucken flag has orange not gold in it. Don't go trying to school people if you haven't done your homework.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]105927[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>


as stated in my last post we down the south like to keep the gold because in our original flag we had a gold harp and rather have an association with the orange men we have gold on our flags

Fine you like to hold on to some old tradition, that's ok, but the flag is ORANGE! If you want to call it another imaginary color that's your thing. But the world recognizes the tri-color as ORANGE!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]105916[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
the flag it a perfect green, white and gold on my monitor


Perhaps you should adjust the colors on your monitor, because it looks like ORANGE TO ME!

Its so ....... ORANGE that it even looks Redish, that's why Povol thought it was Italian. Honest mistake, but your mistake is total poetic justice for somebody trying to kick knowledge but showing his ass/arse.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(povol @ Jan 4 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]105861[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Looked Green,White and Red on my screen.My bad

Raven, you should have just done the honest thing like Povol here and just admitted your mistake. This way I wouldn't have had to drag you through the mud and .... you created when you pissed and crapped all over yourself.

Jumkie...shut up.

turns into a pretty stupid topic imo. who cares what colour the flag has, we're all inhabitans of planet earth. yes I sound like treehugger blah blah blah. now back on topic:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Jan 5 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jurgen vanden Goorbergh is doing it ? He is a road racer ? Since when did he start riding the dakar ? Are there any desserts in the Neds ?
yeah jurgen was about to race his first daker. and no we don't have desserts in holland but we do have the Veluwe which has a lot of sand and the beach on the coasts and we've got a lot of dirttrack stuff in the mud where Jurgen practised

http://www.racesport.nl/pics/fotos/18796.jpg

that's jurgen

yeah, topic really turned into .......


At least we can watch program about Dakar history every night on Eurosport. Should be good, don't miss it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (raven46 @ Jan 4 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wow you are really mindless

go for the throat of what exactly an enemy you can see only in your head

That might be the most uninformed comment made by an educated human in the last 20 years.What your saying is terrorism is a figment of everybodies imagination.There is no fanatical Islam,9-11 never took place,the subway bombing in the UK never happened,nor did the Bali bombing.There are millions of dead Africans that would probably tell you that your full of .... right about now.That imaginary enemy that is hellbent on exterminating anything not Muslim,is very real to them.

TALK ABOUT MINDLESS

What is your next claim,Jews didnt die in Germany?

For ..... sake. This topic is about Dakar, not some political arguements that have no bearing on the topic, if you want an anti-American or anti-Europe rant, then take it somewhere else.