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Casey Stoner Rumors, Still sick

"Why is it soo hard for you people to accept the fact that maybe.... JUST MAYBE, Stoner's fatigue and lack of willingness to fight through it IS indeed due to the fact that the pressure is getting him? Mind and Body works as one. When the mind is frail so is the body. I'm just putting it out there, not to say this is what's going on in Stacey Stoner's situation, but it could very well be. Or it could be said that he over trained, yadayadayada, and became 'ill' as a consequence.

It's just for me, the former makes more sense. I believe the pressure got to him." QUOTE



Thats only because thats what you want to believe.

Despite all the many valid criticisms of Casey, he is well known for being a straight shooter. ie He tells the truth.

And now you disbelieve him??????

You are not being impartial or fair..........
 
Put Stoner on the M1 and Rossi on the Ducati this weekend and Stoner would still win. Rossi might come in tenth.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Oct 15 2009, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats only because thats what you want to believe.

Despite all the many valid criticisms of Casey, he is well known for being a straight shooter. ie He tells the truth.

And now you disbelieve him??????

You are not being impartial or fair..........


Right he IS known for being a straight shooter. Having said that, then all the whining and complaining he has said to the press says alot about his character, on how much pressure he really is putting on himself to succeed in every race. Would that not constitute to enormous amount of pressure? Thus leading him to take the side-line to get a break from it all and clear up his head? I thinks so.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 15 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why is it soo hard for you people to accept the fact that maybe.... JUST MAYBE, Stoner's fatigue and lack of willingness to fight through it IS indeed due to the fact that the pressure is getting him? Mind and Body works as one. When the mind is frail so is the body. I'm just putting it out there, not to say this is what's going on in Stacey Stoner's situation, but it could very well be. Or it could be said that he over trained, yadayadayada, and became 'ill' as a consequence.

It's just for me, the former makes more sense. I believe the pressure got to him.


Why is it so hard for me to believe that you're a real person? I mean as opposed to
the product of the sick imagination of someone here on the forum who has created
your vapid persona - just so people who need to blow off steam - have an easy
target - which is the only reason I can see for the existence of someone as stupid
and pathetic as you appear to be. Really, that's why I resist commenting on things
you say; I just think that you're some sick joke perpetrated on us all by some
twisted person with too much time on their hands. It just boggles my mind that
anyone could be so massively counter-intuitive and dense as you, and not implode like a
black hole, supernova of insipidity.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Oct 15 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why is it so hard for me to believe that you're a real person? I mean as opposed to
the product of the sick imagination of someone here on the forum who has created
your vapid persona - just so people who need to blow off steam - have an easy
target - which is the only reason I can see for the existence of someone as stupid
and pathetic as you appear to be. It just boggles my mind that anyone could be
so massively counter-intuitive and dense as you, and not implode like a
black hole, supernova of insipidity.

Keshav... just letting you know, you are way in over your head if you want to start an argument/debate with me. Let's just say I'm no Talpa.
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Shinya,

what you are trying to do is bend the facts to suit your conclusion.

Approach it correctly and it makes sense that he was physically incapable.

Every respected motogp journalist made quite a lot of mention about CSs unperterbed response to Rossi pressure over the years. And now all of a sudden he can,t handle it????? Doesnt make sense and you know it. Why is it so hard to accept Caseys version??

Do you like to think of Casey as mentally weak?
Do you like to think of Rossi as the psycho warrior?? Master of mind games. Sure it worked with Gibbers, but not with the new breed (Stoner +Lorenzo)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Oct 15 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Shinya,

what you are trying to do is bend the facts to suit your conclusion.

Approach it correctly and it makes sense that he was physically incapable.

Every respected motogp journalist made quite a lot of mention about CSs unperterbed response to Rossi pressure over the years. And now all of a sudden he can,t handle it????? Doesnt make sense and you know it. Why is it so hard to accept Caseys version??

Do you like to think of Casey as mentally weak?
Do you like to think of Rossi as the psycho warrior?? Master of mind games. Sure it worked with Gibbers, but not with the new breed (Stoner +Lorenzo)


Well first of all I dislike Valentino more so than I do Casey, just for the simple fact that Valentino is like a worm, always squirming around to get his way. So there you go, not choosing sides. With that said, my opinion on Stoner's situation still stand... why you ask? The evidence, or lack there-of, is out there and we can only come to our OWN conclusion as to what the real cause of this 'mystery illness' actually is. And from what I gather, as with everyone else NOT in the know, is that the pendulum is swaying more towards his lack of 'fighting spirit' then it is on his actual physical illness. I say that because the 'evidence' is there.... doctors find NOTHING wrong or unusual about his physical health, so one might be incline to believe that if it's not anything physically wrong with him, it could in fact be all in his head, and THAT is what I believe.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 15 2009, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keshav... just letting you know, you are way in over your head if you want to start an argument/debate with me. Let's just say I'm no Talpa.
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I'm thinking that this is the way in which the puppet-master who created you
is telling me that I'm no match for him; that your persona is so immune to
logic that I could completely fry my brain trying to get you to acknowledge
the endless flaws in anything and everything you purport to believe. And I believe,
he's right. It would be like having a staring contest with the sun. Geez...
I feel like I'm in Philip K .... story.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Oct 15 2009, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh Jum.....[bla bla bla]

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Ah, truth hurts.

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You have no idea how much pleasure it gave me to read your post. At very least I should thank you.

(hey, btw, you are pretty good at satire after all, your post had me laughing my ... off)
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Don't take anything on this forum to heart dude. Its all fun & games.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 15 2009, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well first of all I dislike Valentino more so than I do Casey, just for the simple fact that Valentino is like a worm, always squirming around to get his way. So there you go, not choosing sides. With that said, my opinion on Stoner's situation still stand... why you ask? The evidence, or lack there-of, is out there and we can only come to our OWN conclusion as to what the real cause of this 'mystery illness' actually is. And from what I gather, as with everyone else NOT in the know, is that the pendulum is swaying more towards his lack of 'fighting spirit' then it is on his actual physical illness. I say that because the 'evidence' is there.... doctors find NOTHING wrong or unusual about his physical health, so one might be incline to believe that if it's not anything physically wrong with him, it could in fact be all in his head, and THAT is what I believe.


Please go and do a bit of research on Chronic fatigue. It is the nature of the disease that blood tests can reveal nothing specific, yet the disease and weakness is very real.
I don,t know what pendulum you are talking about, but maybe it is part of the clock that is ticking down until the extinction of the ignorant or unfit ( in Darwinian terms).

I have had chronic fatigue and so I believe has Nuts and Keshav(??). And I regret to inform you that it wasn,t due to Rossi playing head games with me!!

It really is an insult when you know something(your Chronic fatigue) to be true and others disbelieve it because they havn,t had it and they lack the imagination to understand what you are going through.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Oct 15 2009, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Didnt CS just race a few days ago?..
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Come on Curve, you know damn well we are never satisfied on beating a dead horse. We still got to put'em through a wood chipper.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Oct 15 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is there really any difference
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I believe Numnuts dream of becoming Muppets
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ps..Stop being a killjoy Jumkie. You,ve had your turn
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Oct 16 2009, 08:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Put Stoner on the M1 and Rossi on the Ducati this weekend and Stoner would still win. Rossi might come in tenth.

Can't believe you got no bites to that.
I'm almost disappointed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Oct 16 2009, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Please go and do a bit of research on Chronic fatigue. It is the nature of the disease that blood tests can reveal nothing specific, yet the disease and weakness is very real.
I don,t know what pendulum you are talking about, but maybe it is part of the clock that is ticking down until the extinction of the ignorant or unfit ( in Darwinian terms).

I have had chronic fatigue and so I believe has Nuts and Keshav(??). And I regret to inform you that it wasn,t due to Rossi playing head games with me!!

It really is an insult when you know something(your Chronic fatigue) to be true and others disbelieve it because they havn,t had it and they lack the imagination to understand what you are going through.

Bunyip is right.
Years ago I got CFS. I was training a lot, working too hard at uni, working a job and partying too much (normal uni/college existence).
I got to the point where I could not get out of bed. I thought I just had some type of virus, but didn't get better. I also tried to maintain my training, and schedule. I was pretty fit at that time (running triathlons etc, and playing rugby) and the thought of even trying to run or swim, made me physically sick. I got progressivly worse over a period of about 2 - 3 months. I couldn't eat, just wanted to sleep all the time, couldn't concentrate, and it led to strange symptoms like chest pains, and overheating. It even put me off chasing girls. I had a couple of months of different tests, nothing showed up abnormal. I was tested for every virus you can imagine. After finding nothing serious, my doctor even suggested I was under stress and was having some type of mental breakdown (which I knew was ....). I had heard about CFS, but at that time (15 years ago) most people blew it off as a fancy name for being run down.
It ended in me falling asleep at the wheel while driving home one night. I ended up pretty smashed up, and nearly killed one of my best mates (we were actually both pretty lucky to walk away if you saw the car).
I spend 2 months pretty well laid up recovering from the accident, and probably another 3 months recovering from whatever I had. I never went back to the same level of training for fear of getting the same thing again.
At that time I was about 21, fit, and healthy. I had a pretty healthy diet, and had a bulletproof immune system (never got sick).
So what got me ???
I don't know, and doctors never gave me a definite answer. I think CFS is real, and I think it was some type of CFS that I had. I think CFS is a wide range of things that can effect different people in different ways.

This is the reason I have some sympathy towards Stoner.
 
doesnt matter now as long as he keeps his health in check... he is back, looks on good form and i have also noticed since his return he doesnt pressure himself to much which is a good thing plus he seems alot happier.

it woulda sucked if the sport had lost another strong competitor.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Oct 15 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can't believe you got no bites to that.
I'm almost disappointed.

I'm losing my touch.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Oct 16 2009, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm losing my touch.
Nah GS, yer not loosing your touch... its just in this thread your post has to be over 1000 words, by law ya know...
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