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You kid I know, but I wouldn't put it past Azerbaijan. No seriously.
Given, as I and you suggest, there is no need to have an actual circuit, but just the "deal" in place.
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No circuit is a pretty big obstacle. Maybe I can entice Dorna to come race on the family farm? We have a track, but it's for Minibikes so at least Dani would fit right in.
ETA: Good to see you posting again Krops.
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Kropo & Migs (and anyone else who has dismissed selectively certain GP assertions to "conspiracy theories"), did you watch the NFL season opener last night? Ratings were through the roof. A good thing for the NFL since, as sports entities have learned, the big money is in TV. Well, there was this serious bloke on a serious general news program (not a sports program) who asserted the following:
He said the deflategate was a calculated NFL maneuver in the sense that they pursued it knowing that it would create public discourse, while legally knowing it would never lead to sanctioning the NFL's star player (NFL equivalent to a Marquez, Rossi, or Lorenzo). He proposed the smart guys in the room didn't create the deflategate but pursued it knowing the predictable outcome and used it to deflect from the real issues the NFL was facing and potentially image damning such as domestic violence and concussion scandals. As high value sponsors had put the NFL on notice after their handling of a player caught on video knocking out his girlfriend, and the links to head concussions. He said this April the NFL paid out close to a billion dollars and hardly anybody noticed in regards to concussions. Instead of facing the court of public opinion in regards to their atrocious handling of the domestic violence scandal they were instead providing and directing via the willing media (who lets face it have lost their investigative 4th estate mandate to focus on the substantive questions) to talk about a quarter of a PSI and the team everyone loves to find a reason to hate. Meanwhile everybody was talking about a quarter of a PSI all the way up to the federal court system. Brilliant indeed, that is if you are inclined to believe that kind of cunning stuff contrived in secret board rooms. On a related note I'm amazed that people other than me can concoct conspiracy theories. I say that because it seems I'm the only one who's ever accused of it.
So here is my question, do you think the smartest guys in the room, in this case the NFL top brass or some very smart guy in the room is capable of such maneuver? Or is this news guest a run of the mill conspiracy theorist, where the NFL brass (who covered up and claimed they were unaware of subsequent TMZ exposed video of a women being knocked the .... out and dragged like a cave women from the elevator) were pursuing Tom Brady and the Patriots to protect the 'integrity' of the league? As you ponder your answer, consider the "coincidence" that the Patriots were scheduled to kick off the new season opener and what is the topic of public discourse at the moment.
He said the deflategate was a calculated NFL maneuver in the sense that they pursued it knowing that it would create public discourse, while legally knowing it would never lead to sanctioning the NFL's star player (NFL equivalent to a Marquez, Rossi, or Lorenzo). He proposed the smart guys in the room didn't create the deflategate but pursued it knowing the predictable outcome and used it to deflect from the real issues the NFL was facing and potentially image damning such as domestic violence and concussion scandals. As high value sponsors had put the NFL on notice after their handling of a player caught on video knocking out his girlfriend, and the links to head concussions. He said this April the NFL paid out close to a billion dollars and hardly anybody noticed in regards to concussions. Instead of facing the court of public opinion in regards to their atrocious handling of the domestic violence scandal they were instead providing and directing via the willing media (who lets face it have lost their investigative 4th estate mandate to focus on the substantive questions) to talk about a quarter of a PSI and the team everyone loves to find a reason to hate. Meanwhile everybody was talking about a quarter of a PSI all the way up to the federal court system. Brilliant indeed, that is if you are inclined to believe that kind of cunning stuff contrived in secret board rooms. On a related note I'm amazed that people other than me can concoct conspiracy theories. I say that because it seems I'm the only one who's ever accused of it.
So here is my question, do you think the smartest guys in the room, in this case the NFL top brass or some very smart guy in the room is capable of such maneuver? Or is this news guest a run of the mill conspiracy theorist, where the NFL brass (who covered up and claimed they were unaware of subsequent TMZ exposed video of a women being knocked the .... out and dragged like a cave women from the elevator) were pursuing Tom Brady and the Patriots to protect the 'integrity' of the league? As you ponder your answer, consider the "coincidence" that the Patriots were scheduled to kick off the new season opener and what is the topic of public discourse at the moment.
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Amazing. Right up there with Donald Flump leading the GOP presidential race at the moment.
The world has gone mad.
Because organizing a major motorsports event in an oil-rich dictatorship is completely unheard of.
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Eeeeasy there chief. I'm not disputing you (hence my Azerbaijan suggestion) . I just don't expect a GP to be organized in Saudi Arabia just yet. You get my meaning? I guess the point I was trying to make (albeit a poor attempt) was that I am amazed ( though I shouldn't be given my inclination for cynicism ) at the brazen evolution of business practices.
KazakhstanGP. I wonder if they'll hire Borat to be the honorary Marshall.
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Azerbaijan will be hosting F1 next year.
All the work of noted con artist Flavio Briatore, the father of one of Heidi Klum's children. Here he is pictured with his current wife. Certainly a marriage based solely on non-material things...
There's enough money floating around there to host a round of MotoGP as well.
All the work of noted con artist Flavio Briatore, the father of one of Heidi Klum's children. Here he is pictured with his current wife. Certainly a marriage based solely on non-material things...
There's enough money floating around there to host a round of MotoGP as well.
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The Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in Montreal has been paying Bernie for years to host F1 there. So I don't thinl Canada is too economically savvy for Dorna.
Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez would work for MotoGP since the F1 layout for this year can double as the MotoGP layout now that they took out the full Peraltada (which ....... sucks since that was a great corner, it was already a 150MPH corner in a F1 car in 1991) and have a chicane through the soccer stadium in the middle of the circuit.
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Jesus dude, is there anything about F1 you dont know?
So F1 going to Azerbaijan, that makes me sick. The ruling family use the nation's wealth as their personal play thing while the masses eat cake, not. The people on the street have the living standards of a Bangladesh or Moldova while the ruling family live in gold palaces.
Good point about Canadian F1. Again, the smartest (richest) guys in the room play the masses like a fiddle, but im crazy for suggesting conspiracy in how they manage the value of their entities?
So F1 going to Azerbaijan, that makes me sick. The ruling family use the nation's wealth as their personal play thing while the masses eat cake, not. The people on the street have the living standards of a Bangladesh or Moldova while the ruling family live in gold palaces.
Good point about Canadian F1. Again, the smartest (richest) guys in the room play the masses like a fiddle, but im crazy for suggesting conspiracy in how they manage the value of their entities?
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There's plenty I don't know.
F1 has a long history of going to countries with atrocious human rights records. Even worse are the journalists who actively defended F1 going to Bahrain when the population was being crushed by the royals for daring to protest against them. They said it was no big deal, and that the whole thing was overblown. South Africa was a long-time venue during apartheid, then they still went a couple of more times in the mid-80s when people were screaming over anyone bringing sporting events or business to South Africa. F1 didn't care.
A friend of mine got in a huge fight with Joe Saward over Bahrain, and basically called him out in public. I never saw so much backtracking from that slob journalist. It was almost Kesh-like.
F1 more than anything is seen as a way for rich despots to gain standing on the world stage, and get legitimacy by hosting what's considered to be a world stage sporting event. ...., even Russia has a grand prix in spite of the disgusting .... that goes on with that dump and their dictator. Same thing as the World Cup obviously with those dubious 2018 and 2022 events which offend ever last bit of sensibility I have.
I'm not a religious person, but that's the sort of .... that makes me hope there is a hell, so Bernie, Sepp Blatter, and so many others can burn.
The smartest guys do play the masses like a fiddle, and it's quite easy to do when you're making up the rules as you go along.
I rarely watch the NFL any longer for the sole fact that it's almost WWE-like in quality. Besides the NBA, it is rigged to ..... I always say, at least Vince McMahon is honest in what he gives you, and doesn't mince bones about the outcomes being predetermined. I can respect that far more than entities run by rich shitheads who try to pretend things are on the up-and-up when they most certainly are not.
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Mexican Monkey! This post was sublime dude.There's plenty I don't know.
F1 has a long history of going to countries with atrocious human rights records. Even worse are the journalists who actively defended F1 going to Bahrain when the population was being crushed by the royals for daring to protest against them. They said it was no big deal, and that the whole thing was overblown. South Africa was a long-time venue during apartheid, then they still went a couple of more times in the mid-80s when people were screaming over anyone bringing sporting events or business to South Africa. F1 didn't care.
A friend of mine got in a huge fight with Joe Saward over Bahrain, and basically called him out in public. I never saw so much backtracking from that slob journalist. It was almost Kesh-like.
F1 more than anything is seen as a way for rich despots to gain standing on the world stage, and get legitimacy by hosting what's considered to be a world stage sporting event. ...., even Russia has a grand prix in spite of the disgusting .... that goes on with that dump and their dictator. Same thing as the World Cup obviously with those dubious 2018 and 2022 events which offend ever last bit of sensibility I have.
I'm not a religious person, but that's the sort of .... that makes me hope there is a hell, so Bernie, Sepp Blatter, and so many others can burn.
The smartest guys do play the masses like a fiddle, and it's quite easy to do when you're making up the rules as you go along.
I rarely watch the NFL any longer for the sole fact that it's almost WWE-like in quality. Besides the NBA, it is rigged to ..... I always say, at least Vince McMahon is honest in what he gives you, and doesn't mince bones about the outcomes being predetermined. I can respect that far more than entities run by rich shitheads who try to pretend things are on the up-and-up when they most certainly are not.
The reports of Powerslide's decline have been greatly exaggerated.
Seriously folks, this forum has offered up some good .... these past few weeks. And we got an epic battle brewing this weekend.
Edit: (by battle I mean on the track)
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Thanks, much appreciated!
This place has good discussion as long as a certain someone isn't involved.
Goes a long way to having civil and interesting discussion. Too bad Manatee got whacked.
Looking forward to Sunday's race quite a bit. I think we're going to see something interesting there.
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Whomever told you that was having a go mate. Shannonville is a farmers field...
Me @ Shannonville ('04 I think)
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