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Brno 2016


He seems to do this sort of thing too often for it to be pure fluke,no doubt there's a bit of luck involved but the kid has an incredible amount of talent,i wasn't his biggest fan up until the moment Rossi booted him off his bike but i've got a lot more time for him now,i think he'll go on to far surpass the yellow .........s achievements in bike racing.
 
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I agree Jums, it is unbelievable how good of a job Michelin did working with Marc to design a front that only he can push to & past the limit. Every other rider in the field would have gone down. Michelin has done their job and stacked the deck in Marc's favor.

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Sad to see you, a once proud Rossi fan, reduced to such paltry sarcasm.
 
Sad to see you, a once proud Rossi fan, reduced to such paltry sarcasm.

Why are you sad? If the ridiculous conspiracy theories from JPS & Jums do not dampen your spirits, some additional garbage theories from me shouldn't either. I'm just trying to see what type of enjoyment they get out of it, but it seems pretty dull to me so far. Definitely hasn't made the sport more enjoyable to follow.
 
Why are you sad? If the ridiculous conspiracy theories from JPS & Jums do not dampen your spirits, some additional garbage theories from me shouldn't either. I'm just trying to see what type of enjoyment they get out of it, but it seems pretty dull to me so far. Definitely hasn't made the sport more enjoyable to follow.

No, it is just sad to see someone who is seemingly intelligent unable to argue his position and deluding himself that parody will succeed when arguments have failed.

Again all you have is the cry of "conspiracy theory". Of course not everything in MotoGP is explained by conspiracy theories in Valentino's favour, or by tyre conspiracies in his favour specifically, and some have taken such conspiracy theories to an extreme, but while I don't personally take the "Rossi advantages" thing as far as some you have failed repeatedly to refute much of what has been argued, and "straw man" attempts at parody on your part don't change that.

Although I do agree with the maxim that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, I was obviously engaging in same myself, being amused rather than saddened that this is all you have left; I am only spelling all this out because your most recent post seemed to require/ask for it btw.
 
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Why are you sad? If the ridiculous conspiracy theories from JPS & Jums do not dampen your spirits, some additional garbage theories from me shouldn't either. I'm just trying to see what type of enjoyment they get out of it, but it seems pretty dull to me so far. Definitely hasn't made the sport more enjoyable to follow.

I've backed up plenty of what I have said.

In fact, there was a topic where I posted news stories in particular about one such "conspiracy theory" that yourself and Daniboy, two peas in a pod if there ever were any, tried to ignore while derailing the topic into some other .........

I get it Vudu. You're a close-minded individual who can't consider that some such things don't fall inside the nice, neat box you prefer everything in life to fit into perfectly. That's more than okay to be unable to handle things that don't correspond with your preconceived notions of how the world operates.

What's particularly shocking is that after seeing the rampant corruption at hand in two of the major global sporting entities, FIFA and the IOC, yourself and many others still cling to the last vestiges of the idea that GP can't possibly do crooked things. I don't believe GP results are fixed, and I've stated as much in the past. I do however believe the playing field was rigged in certain manners multiple times in the past in order to hopefully encourage preferred outcomes if possible. There is a difference between fixing and rigging. They would never engage in actual fixing because if it ever got out, credibility would be fully undermined, and the sport would be completely ruined.

Funnily, the tiered tire system Michelin had in place prior to 2007 was considered the norm, and should also cause any sane observer to consider that it's not out of the norm that special tires were being made....otherwise, why would a tiered tire system exist? Rhetorical question there. The Saturday Night Specials are not some mythological creation. They were an accepted part of GP.

Rossi has for many years now held what I call, "preferred winner" status...and why not? He's made Dorna billions. He attracts eyeballs and interest. When he wins, the interest multiplies and translates into money. It's all about the money. That's why even when his riding career ends, he will never be gone from GP. Team ownership is mighty important, and with Dorna funding the satellite teams to the amount they are now, it's an easy way to get Rossi into eventual premier class team ownership. Rest assured, he will have a factory Yamaha R1 even as a satellite team. God bless whoever rides for a Rossi backed GP team as it will be a better ride than the actual factory Yamaha team M1.

Rossi and Dorna are both on record as having used their considerable influences to affect things in a manner considered positive for VR. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. If you want to carry on like the rest of Rossi's ..... fanbase, by all means, continue. All you're doing is making yourself look like a bigger fool.
 
I wonder what will come first. Crutchlow winning a MotoGP championship or JPSLotus one day saying something even remotely positive (or at least less intensley bitter) about VR


and before I get jumped on - I dont expect nor want people to kiss his arse and sing his praises - people like who they like. But to see such intense annoyance/anger/bitterness is slightly strange lol

At least some of the '..... VR fanbase' can still manage the occasional unbiased compliment to another rider. Note: i said some
 
Suggest you have a look back Shaunna as JPS has and continues to give VR credit to Rossi where he feels it is deserved, he is not always negative nor conspiratorial as some seem him to be.

Suggest that you may want to review a number of his posts along race weekends and you will see that he has complimented Rossi this year alone on a number of occasions (Mugello for example) as well as his practice laps this year (which IMO has been a big step up in Rossi terms)

Sure he may not say stuff that some like, but to say that Cal will win a GP prior to JPS crediting the god (VR, not Cal no matter what Cal thinks of himself) is wrong, as JPS already won that battle
 
I wonder what will come first. Crutchlow winning a MotoGP championship or JPSLotus one day saying something even remotely positive (or at least less intensley bitter) about VR


and before I get jumped on - I dont expect nor want people to kiss his arse and sing his praises - people like who they like. But to see such intense annoyance/anger/bitterness is slightly strange lol

At least some of the '..... VR fanbase' can still manage the occasional unbiased compliment to another rider. Note: i said some
VR praised MM's remarkable save in practice yesterday, and I will give him credit for that.

Otherwise what reasons do JPS (or me) have for being positive about VR now, and in particular for 'moving on' as some are arguing Valentino has done? From my point of view part of the reason he has seemingly 'moved on' is that he has succeeded totally in what he started at the end of last season as far as Jorge Lorenzo is concerned, ie screwing him off-track to the extent Jorge felt impelled to leave Yamaha as defending world champion despite an extraordinarily successful (particularly given his opposition) 8 years there. And Valentino may be many things but stupid is not one of them, and if as well may be the case he has come to the conclusion that MM is not currently screwable by off-track means then he is correct imo.
 
Sitting at work watching the vid showing someone when a guy I didn't know was a Rossi fan comes over.

Well to be fair, how on earth would you have known? - They only come out when he's winning.

Surely the canary coloured tie betrayed something?
 
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Sitting at work watching the vid showing someone when a guy I didn't know was a Rossi fan comes over.

If you're still at work go and give that Rossi fan a kick in the nuts and tell him to take off the yellow tinged specs,Rossi would have been on his ... just like the rest of us.
 
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Well, shaunna showed up, and Rossi hasn't won this weekend race yet.

We'll get Shaunna to see the light soon don't you worry,hey Shaunna,you weren't at the isle of man TT in '91 by any chance?,got my leg over a lovely young Irish girl called Shaunna and it made for a great week.
 
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Rossi fan to me after watching that, Rossi can do that as well.
I don't think so. What MM does is not normal, even for MotoGP riders. I don't know how long you have followed this sport, but when Rossi was Marquez's age, he did not hang off nearly has much as he does now. And he still doesn't get off like MM, who is the most extreme of the top riders. Rossi and others started changing their style because of Stoner. Now, with MM's obvious success riders are dragging body parts even more.

Perhaps in the next few years, some of the other Moto2 boys will be making saves like MM. But, until then, I have only seen saves like his regular routine a couple of times. Edwards had an elbow save (I think on the yellow Yamaha), for instance.
 
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We'll get Shaunna to see the light soon don't you worry,hey Shaunna,you weren't at the isle of man TT in '91 by any chance?,got my leg over a lovely young Irish girl called Shaunna and it made for a great week.

Cant actually answer that on the grounds I dont remember... would have only been three years old at the time ;)
 
I don't think so. What MM does is not normal, even for MotoGP riders. I don't know how long you have followed this sport, but when Rossi was Marquez's age, he did not hang off nearly has much as he does now. And he still doesn't get off like MM, who is the most extreme of the top riders. Rossi and others started changing their style because of Stoner. Now, with MM's obvious success riders are dragging body parts even more.

Perhaps in the next few years, some of the other Moto2 boys will be making saves like MM. But, until then, I have only seen saves like his regular routine a couple of times. Edwards had an elbow save (I think on the yellow Yamaha), for instance.
I remember Stoner saving a massive tank slapper once, and someone posting archival footage of Wayne Gardner doing the same, but even Stoner didn't do it as regularly as MM does.
 

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