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Ben Spies to leave Yamaha

Yeah - what a tough deal Spies has had with Yami. Given all he needed to win a WSBK championship in his rookie year. Given a very competitive Tech Trois bike in his rookie MGP year. Two years on (arguably) the best MGP factory bike. Oh yeah - his teammate is the better rider and the best shot the factory has to win the championship so he got some parts testing duties... .... - that's never happened in motorsports before.



Speculation of course, but if Spies felt he was being used by the factory in a way that was detrimental to him having the success he believed he should have been having while doing parts shake down for Jorge...looking like a total fool as he circulates around in 10th place (because of said parts and required setup) while trying to conjure up the latest "bad luck" excuse before he pulled back into the pits...and then having to stand in front of a camera and explain himself. That would have to be a rather humiliating experience for a type 'A' personality to endure round after round. Especially for a rider that has a history of performing well and feels that he could and should be doing better but can't because of the situation he finds himself in. Just because you are on the "best" bike on the grid does not mean you are in a situation to take advantage of it.



If a person knows going in that this is their role then that's fine. But I get the feeling this is not how it is portrayed going in. Otherwise how else do you get a hungry up-and-comer who has had success everywhere else he has been to sign on if he knows his role is that of the sacrificial lamb?



If he felt he was sold a bill of goods then I can totally understand how he could be just a little pissed about it.
 
Speculation of course, but if Spies felt he was being used by the factory in a way that was detrimental to him having the success he believed he should have been having while doing parts shake down for Jorge...

Where has this been said by Ben or noted in some article? Or are we simply guessing (making an excuse for Ben) that he is being used as a test dummy?
 
Where has this been said by Ben or noted in some article? Or are we simply guessing (making an excuse for Ben) that he is being used as a test dummy?

It's gossip of course, but on krop's site:





"Another source reports that the control that Spies and his crew had over the setup of their bike was limited, with Yamaha asking the Texan to help test parts for Lorenzo's title chase. Whether these reports are true or not, Spies' real reasons for leaving will only come out once the Texan has left the team, and once his contract expires at the end of 2012."



http://www.motomatters.com/news/2012/07/24/bombshell_ben_spies_announces_he_will_be.html
 
It's gossip of course, but on krop's site:





"Another source reports that the control that Spies and his crew had over the setup of their bike was limited, with Yamaha asking the Texan to help test parts for Lorenzo's title chase. Whether these reports are true or not, Spies' real reasons for leaving will only come out once the Texan has left the team, and once his contract expires at the end of 2012."



http://www.motomatte...he_will_be.html



Thanks....

So it is all rumor and speculation, not from him directly.......

i am not convinced (no surprise) that is the only reason for his lack of performance though, since he would have had same duties in 2011 as 2nd rider and he did well then....
 
I guess we will just have to wait for the press conference. All i have to say is if Dovi doesnt get the second seat then that just sucks for him bc he deserves it.



I hope Ben stays in gp tho, i don't think he has overstayed his welcome so far
 
Thanks....

So it is all rumor and speculation, not from him directly.......

i am not convinced (no surprise) that is the only reason for his lack of performance though, since he would have had same duties in 2011 as 2nd rider and he did well then....



Yes, pure speculation.
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As you say, I think it is a combination of things...not just this. Although I think this year could be different for Ben in terms of him being the #2 compared to last year...especially if Yamaha adopted an "all costs" strategy for Jorge to gain back the title. It could be a very different situation from last year as far as Spies' role is concerned.



Either way, it could have played a part in the way this was handled by Spies especially if he felt that Yamaha themselves deserve some the blame for his dismal results and have left him to look the sole fool. This being his way of taking back the initiative and some level of control over the situation while on his way out.
 
I guess we will just have to wait for the press conference. All i have to say is if Dovi doesnt get the second seat then that just sucks for him bc he deserves it.

I agree .... but seriously, who do you think Yamaha are currently furiously busy authorising blank cheques for right now?



If the prodigal son returns it won't be a deserved ride unless Lorenzo strings up his golden bollocks in a karmic truss - which in all honesty I hope he does and think he will.
 
Form another forum...



Julian Ryder tweeted BMW WSBK for Spies, 2 year contract, from two reliable sources.
 
A little more meat on the bone now....



http://www.radiosbk.com/ ...english translation...



Go! The little scoop (the big scoop! ...) The day exclusively for readers RadioSbk.

Some of you have already read that Ben Spies Yamaha leave at the end of the season.

RadioSbk is able to reveal that he has signed for two years at BMW and will be next season's

team-mate Marco Melandri on the second bike brought by BMW Italia World Superbike.

An option for a return to the MotoGP season 2014 is also strongly considered.
 
A little more meat on the bone now....



http://www.radiosbk.com/ ...english translation...



Go! The little scoop (the big scoop! ...) The day exclusively for readers RadioSbk.

Some of you have already read that Ben Spies Yamaha leave at the end of the season.

RadioSbk is able to reveal that he has signed for two years at BMW and will be next season's

team-mate Marco Melandri on the second bike brought by BMW Italia World Superbike.

An option for a return to the MotoGP season 2014 is also strongly considered.

Perhaps BMW is getting ready to make the move to Moto GP in 2014 with Ben leading the way
 
Sucks that it didn't work out for him at Yamaha. Although I love MOTOGP I would love to see him back in WSBK as it is becoming my "go to" for my racing fix.
 
A little more meat on the bone now....



http://www.radiosbk.com/ ...english translation...



Go! The little scoop (the big scoop! ...) The day exclusively for readers RadioSbk.

Some of you have already read that Ben Spies Yamaha leave at the end of the season.

RadioSbk is able to reveal that he has signed for two years at BMW and will be next season's

team-mate Marco Melandri on the second bike brought by BMW Italia World Superbike.

An option for a return to the MotoGP season 2014 is also strongly considered.



So glad this is happening for Ben and it also gets rid of Leon.
 
I agree .... but seriously, who do you think Yamaha are currently furiously busy authorising blank cheques for right now?



If the prodigal son returns it won't be a deserved ride unless Lorenzo strings up his golden bollocks in a karmic truss - which in all honesty I hope he does and think he will.



Isn't that a quote from Byron's "The Siege Of Corinth"?
 
So glad this is happening for Ben and it also gets rid of Leon.

A-hole. I'm rooting for Haslam.
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That sucks. I'm conflicted. I think BMW turned down the wick on Haslam to .... him out of the team. My only hope now is that Ben schools crybaby Melandri into screaming uncle.



Ben alludes to Yamaha forcing and limiting him to certain set ups and testing duties. Thats at Yamaha, a 'fairly' benign factory, I can only imagine what Nicky Hayden endured at HRC under DarthEvil. Spies had speed in qual then suddenly sucked balls in races? Doesn't quite jive.
 
I agree .... but seriously, who do you think Yamaha are currently furiously busy authorising blank cheques for right now?



If the prodigal son returns it won't be a deserved ride unless Lorenzo strings up his golden bollocks in a karmic truss - which in all honesty I hope he does and think he will.



Do you seriously think that Dovi will be beating Pedders and Marquez let alone challenging Lorenzo on the factory M1? He's had three years on the factory Honda already and underwhelmed. So the question of 'deserving' in relation to 'realistic potential', needs to be examined in this case, of course Dovi deserves it-he's the top sat Yamaha at present, but this is racing......



One must inevitably remove ones personal bias and look at the facts;



So the options are,



a) hire back a rider who brought your '4' world titles and .... loads of race wins, who's alliance with you is already the stuff of legend and has helped you sell enormous amounts of product, ensure he remains a 'Yamaha man' for the rest of his days, add to the legend-inevitably make Ducati look fairly incompetent from the first time he swings his leg over the M1, gain a Monster major sponsor which you haven't had for 2 years now, have the Factory Yamaha's nearly guaranteed 1-2 every round as in 2009 for the next 2 years, PR/media exposure that is unmatched which of course adds zero's to the bottom line of all sponsors contracts, place incredible amounts of pressure on Honda, and particularly Marquez who is the man Yamaha probably need to fear more than any other for the future, potentially create another perennial bridesmaid out of Honda's new golden boy-just like pedders.



or



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Hire Dovi









I realize than my option b is rather underemphasised and fairly well buried in mediocrity, but that's just it. I would imagine the powers that be at Yamaha have far more level heads than us when it comes to their bottom line and their performance against Honda-risking another Spies type second factory bike wouldn't be high on their list of desires for next season. They of course have offered Rossi the seat despite many detractors saying they would never take him back (I know as I've debated the point with most since Stoner retired and Spies fell off the wagon in Qatar), Jorge is happy for it-probably because he will get bored next year otherwise. Much ........ has been debunked over the past few weeks, however Rossi himself might surprise and still see the Ducati challenge to be worthy of another go with the Germans upending Corse and actually providing new stuff, as I've said before-this silly season is probably the 'silliest' we've seen for quite a while. I expect the announcement, whatever it may be, after Laguna.
 
Unlike Laguna Seca

Dont be so hard on Sack, Im sure he attends but he rather avoid us drunk loud and obnoxious people
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No way dude. I'm not the high and mighty type. I would hang with you scumbags in a second haha.

A-hole. I'm rooting for Haslam.
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That sucks. I'm conflicted. I think BMW turned down the wick on Haslam to .... him out of the team. My only hope now is that Ben schools crybaby Melandri into screaming uncle.



Ben alludes to Yamaha forcing and limiting him to certain set ups and testing duties. Thats at Yamaha, a 'fairly' benign factory, I can only imagine what Nicky Hayden endured at HRC under DarthEvil. Spies had speed in qual then suddenly sucked balls in races? Doesn't quite jive.



Not to mention his pace in pre-season. Ben seemed completely out of character this season. That can happen to anybody but watching/knowing Ben's career it was hard to swallow. Can't wait to hear the full story at the end of the season if it ever comes out. It's going to be an interesting second half of the season for Ben and Yamaha.
 
We all know that Dovisioso is just a 'Scottie Pippen'. He will never be a 'race winner'........ he's just a second fiddle.
 

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