Assen race discussion

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 7 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyone notice this thread actually turned out to be more entertaining than the actual race.


What race?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jul 6 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What race?
yeah seriously

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 3 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As for Casey, I think in 2007 it most certainly was.

I want to stress that if the balance can't be 50/50....the even better position would be the one where your machine is doing the work, that way you you don't need to be riding at your maximum and you still have reserve.....I'm sure Ducati figures why have Casey kill himself if the bike can get the work done.....I agree....what do you think?

Hey sorry for not replying for a while, i've not had a fat slab of time to sit and read long posts for a while (busy riding and spectating and all that jazz).

Anywho i think we have largely reached a point here were we agree on all the logical principles but eventually end up drawing different conclusions from the same information. I suppose you could put that down to bias in both of our cases. Again i agree with the last part you have written there, and feel that additional to what you have said about Casey, Rossi is experiencing similar benefits in other areas. As far as i am concerned i think it comes down to differing design philosiphies (as i mentioned in another thread) and i think the best rider is still winning. You might disagree, but thats cool because i've enjoyed talking about it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 3 2008, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah i hear that.....it actually has a bit less to do with size and more to do with power to handling dynamics.......I actually had the opportunity to ride a 250 two stroke race bike (hardly one of a motogp caliber) for about 10 laps of a local circuit a few years ago (i'll try and find the pics) and I do know that although it felt very quick at mid to top end (the thing was rippin the fillings out of my teeth lol) it did feel really soft on low end grunt....as a result, when I used my typical braking markers from my track bike (gsxr 1k) my lap times were horrid. So I asked my buddy (who's bike I was on) what the hell was going on, because I was way off his pace. He told me that I was not braking deep enough and that I was counting on power that wasn't there to dig me out of the corner.....I never did get it quite right.......
Obviously the 800 is much more powerful than the 250, but the difference is apparently not as much as it used to be. And with the void in the torque curve from the 800 to the 990, the more seasoned guys used to big power found they needed an adjustment period to relearn the 250 style.....while to the guys just getting off the 250...it was like getting on a more powerful 250....so that helped them a bit.......any help?

I dig what you are saying but feel like we are going around in cicles. I understand how and where the bikes differ, thats easy. I just feel the size of these differences are not as you perceive them.

peace

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 6 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>war monger. lolCompulsive gambler actually

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Jul 7 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Compulsive gambler actually
haha I bet you $10 bucks that you're not a compulsive gambler.....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 7 2008, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>haha I bet you $10 bucks that you're not a compulsive gambler..... okay now I hate you