2025 Silly Season
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Well, it's 2 reasons. 1, I'm guessing they feel like they don't need the extra bikes now they are the dominant manufacturer but I suspect the main reason is 2. Money. Audi have cut the purse strings.
The commentary I read today lean towards Massimo Rivola warm on R. Fernandez, but not as much on Oliveira.
One has to think how badly Trackhouse want Joe Roberts in MotoGP.
Oliveira could be an option at Gresini (He was almost ready to sign with them after KTM, but his dad convinced him to go with RNF) if Aldeguer isn’t looking for the same seat.
Pramac Yamaha is a possibility as well, and I’d content that there’s an outside chance with HRC even.
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I'm hearing Miller is high up on Gresini's list. I'd prefer Oliviera to get a seat tbh
I completely agree, but this is business I guess.
You’re right, I strongly believe they did a business case evaluation and determined that they’ll get more mileage from the Rossi association than with Pramac (who are virtually unknown outside the racing circles).
Even as a lifelong Rossi fan, I’m not very keen on this development and would have much rather preferred his team associated themselves with the manufacturer with whom he made history with.
Both Morbidelli and Oliveira are riders who have had their chance. Time to move on. Same with Miller.
There is always some luck involved, good and bad, as well as the luck you make yourself.
Oliveira and Miller are great in the wet, that’s a plus but it’s just a plus. I don’t think Morbidelli has been the same rider since the almost disastrous accident/near miss also involving Rossi, injury aside.
Sometimes the mental thing is the greatest impediment to progress. There are now way too many promising young riders to choose instead of a lame duck.
There is always some luck involved, good and bad, as well as the luck you make yourself.
Oliveira and Miller are great in the wet, that’s a plus but it’s just a plus. I don’t think Morbidelli has been the same rider since the almost disastrous accident/near miss also involving Rossi, injury aside.
Sometimes the mental thing is the greatest impediment to progress. There are now way too many promising young riders to choose instead of a lame duck.
It's a shame that so few series can pay riders a decent wage. It's MotoGP or bust nowadays. Twenty years ago, a half dozen series could pay a decent wage, and even help riders retire early.
There is an imbalance in the ecosystem--one that cannot be fixed with another generation of hopeful (desperate) Spanish and Italian families.
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With 3 Ducati riders now confirmed at other manufacturers, 2 Ducati riders confined at Ducati plus Aldeguer confirmed at Ducati that leaves 3 Ducati riders to confirm with 3 Ducati seats left
We don’t know what bikes Pramac is going to have next year, I’ll assume Yamaha and then I’ll guess they retain Morbidelli as he has Yamaha experience.
Alex M I’ll guess stays with Gresini
Aldeguer is contracted to Ducati which makes him attractive to either team as they don’t pay him
DiGi riding well, he deserves his seat. Hope he doesn’t fall out of MotoGP like Bautista did
We don’t know what bikes Pramac is going to have next year, I’ll assume Yamaha and then I’ll guess they retain Morbidelli as he has Yamaha experience.
Alex M I’ll guess stays with Gresini
Aldeguer is contracted to Ducati which makes him attractive to either team as they don’t pay him
DiGi riding well, he deserves his seat. Hope he doesn’t fall out of MotoGP like Bautista did
He possibly also left Yamaha because they dismissed him having any potential to be a motogp rider, so him going there would be quite a teversal for both parties. The money thing comes into it as well as you say, particularly since he is being paid by BMW who are not paying anything currently for a MotoGP team and presumably have their budget focused on their WSBK programme.
IMO it wouldn’t make any sense for him to go to even a mid pack satellite team, and BMW entering MotoGP will come too late even if it does happen with no realistic expectation of being competitive straight up anyway. Honda would seem to be the only prospect for a factory ride, and would need to give him strong evidence their days of floundering will soon be over.
He did manage to keep it going for a whole race a couple of times in fairly dominant wins riding for Ducati, but I am unsure how he managed that when he hasn’t been able to do so otherwise. He can’t seem to maintain pace for even the distance of a sprint race now, As I have said the likely explanation for me is that he just can’t ride the current Michelins.
The other thing now is that he doesn’t even have the one lap/qualifying pace he has mostly had over his career. I am wondering how good the KTM is this year, Binder is also not as competitive as in previous years if to a lesser extent, and the top riders going to KTM because of what Acosta has been doing on the bike might be in for a shock.
I tend to think the GP24 will be more like the GP22 and GP21 than the GP23, and a good bike to be riding next year. The only place I could see for Jack on a Ducati is if Ducati are not confident about the development/feedback skills of their remaining riders particularly if they are down to 6 riders, and see Jack as a known reliable commodity in this aspect.
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His three wins came after that incident so I don't think that was the factor behind his decline. It's when he injured himself badly the next year that his results dropped dramatically.
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While there are quite a few riders yet to sign for 2025, so far there has only been one new rider come in and one existing rider leave. Rumor mill currently has at most 2 riders coming in, that being Toprak and a replacement for Naka
I suspect the main hold up in silly season is working out the assignment of satellite Ducati's
I suspect the main hold up in silly season is working out the assignment of satellite Ducati's
In my opinion all have passed their best before date. I would also include Binder.
I hope Fabio D. gets one.
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Purely on the basis of continuity I don;t see Diggia and Alex M getting dropped by their respective teams, but I have been wrong before.
To me, the lineup for 2025 is still going to be:
VR46
Diggia/Aldeguer
Franco
Gresini
Alex M
Aldeguer/Miller
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Has MotoGP lifeline at Gresini Ducati opened up for Jack Miller?
I am not Diggia's biggest fan, but if he got left out in the cold at Ducati to accommodate Miller, that's some BS imo.
To me, the lineup for 2025 is still going to be:
VR46
Diggia/Aldeguer
Franco
Gresini
Alex M
Aldeguer/Miller
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Has MotoGP lifeline at Gresini Ducati opened up for Jack Miller?
I am not Diggia's biggest fan, but if he got left out in the cold at Ducati to accommodate Miller, that's some BS imo.
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