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Riders like Stoner and Marquez have been for years "enabling" Honda engineers addiction to sophisticated whizz-bang marvels of engineering that don't translate into meaningful advantages for riders.
It has ever been thus. The Gardner bike was unrideable, one of the true greats Eddie Lawson and Erv Kanamoto sorted it somewhat. Mick Doohan has straight out said a major part of his role was preventing the Honda engineers from "improving" his bike.
 
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What’s the weather like at Valencia for Sunday? Lazy, can’t be bothered to look right now.

If it’s wet, Rins for the win!

WTF happened to Fabio? Is he the new witch that gets dissolved in water?
 
What’s the weather like at Valencia for Sunday? Lazy, can’t be bothered to look right now.

If it’s wet, Rins for the win!

WTF happened to Fabio? Is he the new witch that gets dissolved in water?
Jack Miller if it is wet, but not in most other circumstances.

Rins for the race otherwise, but his team-mate for the title.
 
It has ever been thus. The Gardner bike was unrideable, one of the true greats Eddie Lawson and Erv Kanamoto sorted it somewhat. Mick Doohan has straight out said a major part of his role was preventing the Honda engineers from "improving" his bike.

Kanemoto - always been a hero of mine. It took real balls to go against the established norms. The Japanese are famously homogeneous team players. Mifune's character Musashi Miyamoto was popular in the film world, but real life rebels in Japanese culture are a rarity.
 
What's going on with Bagnaia. After winning his little contest with Zarco for factory contract he has been constantly outperformed by latter.
 
Great race. Mir was just . . . beautiful. Funny, in that Suzuki steadily improving, eventually coming to the fore, was pretty predictable, as has been Yamaha's gradual decline over the last 5 years.

And man, listening to Brivio's voice right after the race, as it's all hitting him was really heartwarming. Always been an especially outstanding character in the paddock. Never heard a bad word against him. Congrats to him and the team.

Pol did great - all things considered. Liking him more and more. Genuinely gracious in post race interview.

Nakagami - just so solid.

Binder amazing after the penalty slow-down.
 
Sup homies, hope everyones doing well.
Did Rins or Mir say anything about that pass? seemed fishy. Rins was at least a gear too high. Running wide with no engine brake or "change to map 2"?
 
Yeah agree big time about Suzuki...great to see them up there. Even to the average TV viewer that thing can turn! Really like Mir and Rins and Brivio...and the bike even looks awesome. Had to post this pic...love it.

What is happening at Yamaha and Ducati for that matter...they've just crumbled...

Vinales maybe regretting leaving Suzuki??
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Well, Mir deserved it of course. Suzuki doing a great job of coming through.

Did Rins do a really perfect job of letting him by?

Whose head(s) are going to roll at Yamaha, or has it already happened?
They set their course downwards a ways back by giving in to and hitching their fortunes to Rossi instead of Lorenzo.

Fabio showing mental weakness. Plus, it seems he can’t ride in the wet. He looks like Mav, running away when all his ducks are in a row, or mired with the down and outs if not. It is possible he can mature and learn, the raw talent is there.
It will be interesting to see him next year in the factory team as #1?

Dovi, time to hang it up for sure.
 
It was a very long race for me to watch. I watched the last 10 laps standing, hoping Mir wouldn't lose the front. :spin::bounce::showoff::3a:

So happy for him and for Suzuki. Very, very well deserved.

Very good ride by Pol and Nakagami.

A day to forget for Yamaha and one can't sympathise too much considering their recent shenanigans.
 
Sup homies, hope everyones doing well.
Did Rins or Mir say anything about that pass? seemed fishy. Rins was at least a gear too high. Running wide with no engine brake or "change to map 2"?

Yo yo yo! Good to see yer name here again.
 
Yeah agree big time about Suzuki...great to see them up there. Even to the average TV viewer that thing can turn! Really like Mir and Rins and Brivio...and the bike even looks awesome. Had to post this pic...love it.

What is happening at Yamaha and Ducati for that matter...they've just crumbled...

Vinales maybe regretting leaving Suzuki??
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Feels like Ducati just kind of ran out steam inspiration-wise. I know there've been organizational changes over the last few seasons, but I'm not one of those guys who constantly sift through hundreds of sites looking for tidbits of info about corporate machinations. Povol? You around?


Re: Yamaha. They've seemed to be on a slow downward trend since they lost their main sponsor back about 9 years ago. Takes money to make real innovations; the lack of it isn't great for moral. Yamaha just doesn't seem to be as invested as Honda, tho Honda might suffer the same if they lost Repsol.

That in mind, Suzuki's trajectory over these last few years is just so damned impressive.
 
No suspect here. Mir pulled away after. If this was staged then Rins could have stayed with him, just to show he is not slower.
 
thanks man.
where the .... is everyone? i got a packed bowl, a tinfoil hat and a suspect overtake in a gp race. LETS DO THIS.

The Gang Of Four are long gone. Unfortunately - so are a lot of the Wild Ones. Lots of the old drinking buddies had kids and started selling aluminium siding and whatnot.

This continues to be a great forum. The crazies these days pop in and disappear quickly enough.
 
Feels like Ducati just kind of ran out steam inspiration-wise. I know there've been organizational changes over the last few seasons, but I'm not one of those guys who constantly sift through hundreds of sites looking for tidbits of info about corporate machinations. Povol? You around?


Re: Yamaha. They've seemed to be on a slow downward trend since they lost their main sponsor back about 9 years ago. Takes money to make real innovations; the lack of it isn't great for moral. Yamaha just doesn't seem to be as invested as Honda, tho Honda might suffer the same if they lost Repsol.

That in mind, Suzuki's trajectory over these last few years is just so damned impressive.
Perhaps Brivio had something to do with Yamaha’s success as well.

Still find Simon Crafar’s voice grating btw, even though what he says is commonly quite reasonable.
 

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