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What if Rossi DOES win the title this year?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ May 13 2008, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well folk have been saying on here that he only won his titles coz he had no competition, he always had the best bike, tyres or whatever.

There is also a percieved myth on here that all Rossi fans are kids who only watch racing coz they like Rossi.

Personally, as a 40 year old Rossi fan, who has followed bike racing since he was a kid, I believe that Vale has another title in him. His win in China showed that there is plenty of life left in him, and he rode looked like the young guy on a yellow NSR500. (google if need be, but it's a motorbike.)

I think we're in for a summer of bloody good racing, whoever takes this one is going to prove themselves as something special. Thats not a dig at anyone elses recent title, it's saying that the competition this year is seriously close, and whoever takes it will have a fight on their hands. I thought I'd better add that before the Rossi "dislikers" or anyone else tells me off.

Pete
spot on pete.
i believe he can pull it off this year if he keeps his focus and everything in his package stays competitive. i have a gut feeling the championship will come down to the last race again
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AB#1 @ May 13 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>C'mon, Rossi wins 1 race (after his teammate has beat up on him all year including winning a GP before him in only his 3rd ever motoGP race) and you are talking him up for the title?!?!? Did you learn nothing from Hayden and Stoner beating up on him the last two years?

Get real, its over for Rossi - Pedrosa, Stoner & Lorenzo - the new breed of superstars all have a better chance of winning the title than Rossi does! We've all heard the excuses & witnessed the reality that has seen him struggle during his fall from grace. He may take a rare win and scratch up a few podiums but he will not win the championship and is not the man to beat.

I'm so tired of all this Rossi worshipping, right now its all about the new breed of superstars, the pace setters, the young stars on the rise, the future champions - Pedrosa, Lorenzo & Stoner!
little premature i think. stoner is behind rossi in the standings so its a bit funny to mention him in the context of rossi being over. also way to early to judge lorenzo against rossi and dani is fast but he aint got the whole set yet. there's plenty of riders can stay up front but not many can fight there way to the front.

makes me smile when i see a foggy fan banging on about "rossi worshipers"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ May 13 2008, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Put'm back on MENS bikes.....
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2 stroke 1000cc v8s. No TC.
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As plenty folk are saying, Rossi has nothing to prove. He has taken GP racing to a new level, both in racing and popularity.

Hard as it may be for some to admit, he's still out there doing the business, making the podium and winning races.

Pete
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ May 13 2008, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>2 stroke 1000cc v8s. No TC.
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As plenty folk are saying, Rossi has nothing to prove. He has taken GP racing to a new level, both in racing and popularity.

Hard as it may be for some to admit, he's still out there doing the business, making the podium and winning races.

Pete

990s will do just fine thanks
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Here's the thing..in order to TOP Rossi as the "greatest"...a rider has to start at the 125 class and kick ... all the way through....will never happen...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ May 13 2008, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>2 stroke 1000cc v8s. No TC.
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As plenty folk are saying, Rossi has nothing to prove. He has taken GP racing to a new level, both in racing and popularity.

Hard as it may be for some to admit, he's still out there doing the business, making the podium and winning races.

Pete

No need to put a throttle on that bike, just a switch.

The rider can flip between 500hp and 0. I'm not even sure men can handle THAT bike.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ May 13 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>990s will do just fine thanks
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Here's the thing..in order to TOP Rossi as the "greatest"...a rider has to start at the 125 class and kick ... all the way through....will never happen...
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Well said Curvy boy.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 13 2008, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>there's plenty of riders can stay up front but not many can fight there way to the front.

There are no extra points for bad qualifying or getting crap starts. It doesn't matter how you get there, being at the front every race is what it takes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ May 13 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>but I do think different riders are sometimes judged by different criteria. Last year it was widely opined that stoner was unfairly advantaged by a superior bike, whilst this year despite there being probably stronger evidence that the yamaha is the superior bike, this is just allowing rossi and lorenzo the opportunity to display their talent
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I think thats pretty funny too!

At the end of the day though a rider must do all he can to score the most points, including dealing with the factors that are out of his control.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 13 2008, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There are no extra points for bad qualifying or getting crap starts. It doesn't matter how you get there, being at the front every race is what it takes.
thats lame tom. so you cant admire a rider and see the skill in working your way through the pack having to use all sorts of lines to get there, the mere fact they didn't start from the front earns no credit with you .
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 13 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>thats lame tom. so you cant admire a rider and see the skill in working your way through the pack having to use all sorts of lines to get there, the mere fact they didn't start from the front earns no credit with you .
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Passing skills are admirable of course, but i think less admirable than a rider who is able to lead from the front, control the race and be superior enough to stay clear of the high risk situations involved in scrapping for everything. Watching close races and seeing riders cut through the pack is exciting, and admirable as they are feats we do not expect to see (like riding injured), but In the greater scheme of things fighting through the pack is not worth extra merit and nore is getting injured and riding in pain (although both are exciting to watch). I don't think a rider who disadvantages himself is better than one whos judgement and skill keeps him out of trouble.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 13 2008, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Passing skills are admirable of course, but i think less admirable than a rider who is able to lead from the front, control the race and be superior enough to stay clear of the high risk situations involved in scrapping for everything. Watching close races and seeing riders cut through the pack is exciting, and admirable as they are feats we do not expect to see (like riding injured), but In the greater scheme of things fighting through the pack is not worth extra merit and nore is getting injured and riding in pain (although both are exciting to watch). I don't think a rider who disadvantages himself is better than one whos judgement and skill keeps him out of trouble.
rossi can do both, dani cant !
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 13 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>rossi can do both, dani cant !

Dani's last 6 races has been 2 wins, 2 poles and all podiums, Rossi's hasn't.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 13 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dani's last 6 races has been 2 wins, 2 poles and all podiums, Rossi's hasn't.

dani has 5 wins since 2006, rossi 10, double score!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 13 2008, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Passing skills are admirable of course, but i think less admirable than a rider who is able to lead from the front, control the race and be superior enough to stay clear of the high risk situations involved in scrapping for everything. Watching close races and seeing riders cut through the pack is exciting, and admirable as they are feats we do not expect to see (like riding injured), but In the greater scheme of things fighting through the pack is not worth extra merit and nore is getting injured and riding in pain (although both are exciting to watch). I don't think a rider who disadvantages himself is better than one whos judgement and skill keeps him out of trouble.


It's racing Tom, and the guy who only wins from the front is ...... if he starts 10th. As someone who sees any 2 bike crash as a racing incident Tom, I thought you would have wanted to see riders barging their way through the field, coz like youve said, it's racing.

Pete
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ May 13 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's racing Tom, and the guy who only wins from the front is ...... if he starts 10th.

Of course, if a rider starts thenth and makes no progress he isn't as impressive as someone who fights to a podium. But of the riders quick enough to get on the podium, the one who can qualify properley and stay at the front is more impressive than the inconsistent alternative. Ultimately though details like this become insignificant, the rider i am most impressed by is the one who wins the world championhip.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ May 13 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>band wagoner
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Aaahh don't be confused my friend, the most impressive rider is not always my favorite. The rider who most impressed me last year is not a favorite by any means.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 13 2008, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Aaahh don't be confused my friend, the most impressive rider is not always my favorite. The rider who most impressed me last year is not a favorite by any means.


Well, not this week coz he's gettin gubbed
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Pete
 

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