West loses Speed Master MotoGP seat

birdman said:

West tweeted "BSB could be the place for me" Good move IMO.

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Especially for someone who looked to be done with motorsport only a few weeks ago.

Jumkie said:

It appears we have the dumbest people from the region you are from Pov, the South. Maybe we should start taxing this region more for bringing down our national average.

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Thanks for pointing out that Tennessee has a higher graduation rate than California, despite spending considerably less per student.

Jumkie said:

We should fire cops because there is still crime. We should fire all firemen because there are still fires. We should fire doctors and nurses because people keep getting sick. Your logic is breathtaking. Students go to school 6 of the 24 hours of the day, where do u think they are getting their education? You turned out to be very dumb, but im not gonna blame ur teachers. Actually as a national average, Southerners are very dumb. Teachers dont have a chance in that region. U boys are dumber than planks.

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What was it you called them, logical fallacies. But yes, if you show a cop a crime and he does nothing, fire his .... Show a fireman a fire and he does nothing, you fire his .... Fall below the national average in graduation rates despite being in the top half in spending per student, your ....... right, you should be up for evaluation to explain why your ... shouldnt be fired. Anyway, getting back on track, her is an article about Stoner and Davies when they were kids and lived in a 7 by 15 trailer pulled behind a motorhome bought by the families after selling their .... to chase their kids dreams. Notice the title, " JUST KIDS" as in not nearing the end of their careers.



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povol said:

Thanks for pointing out that Tennessee has a higher graduation rate than California, despite spending considerably less per student.

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Partly because Cali has been subsidizing your dumb ... broke state. You should use your new found basic literacy to write a thank you letter to Prez Obama for funneling money to your ........ Tenn. Under Prez W, you fools dumber dumber than planks.



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Jumkie said:

Partly because Cali has been subsidizing your dumb ... broke state. You should use your new found basic literacy to write a thank you letter to Prez Obama for funneling money to your ........ Tenn. Under Prez W, you fools dumber than planks.



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Those pesky date stamps will get you every time when your a ........ artist. The chart that showed Tennessee with a higher graduation rate than California,despite spending less per student was from the year 2008. Now correct me if im wrong, but if im not mistaken, Obama was not sworn in till Jan 2009. HMMMMM., I think i will send Bush a letter instead. Whose dumb as a plank?

povol said:

Those pesky date stamps will get you every time when your a ........ artist. The chart that showed Tennessee with a higher graduation rate than California,despite spending less per student was from the year 2008. Now correct me if im wrong, but if im not mistaken, Obama was not sworn in till Jan 2009. HMMMMM., I think i will send Bush a letter instead. Whose dumb as a plank?

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Obama was president elect in 08, and according to you, his effect on the nation started the moment he was elected. That was your logic. Not to mention, the Demo controlled Congress who probably had a hand in trying to educate the ..... Southern part of the nation. It was the home that if we educated you ........., that maybe you wouldn't vote against your own self interest. Btw, You don't know much about data gathering do you. That was W's attempt at making the dumb South look smarter, look at your 05 data, right in the middle of W's tenure. The people who voted W in are from the region of the country that are predominately very mentally challenged. You guys were right in their with all the other ........ Souther states leading the charge to special education.

Jumkie, Povol:



Enough with the foreplay. This manlove teasing act between the two you is clogging up every thread. Get a room and get it out of your sytems already.

Jumkie said:

Obama was president elect in 08, and according to you, his effect on the nation started the moment he was elected. That was your logic. Not to mention, the Demo controlled Congress who probably had a hand in trying to educate the ..... Southern part of the nation. It was the home that if we educated you ........., that maybe you wouldn't vote against your own self interest. Btw, You don't know much about data gathering do you. That was W's attempt at making the dumb South look smarter, look at your 05 data, right in the middle of W's tenure. The people who voted W in are from the region of the country that are predominately very mentally challenged. You guys were right in their with all the other ........ Souther states leading the charge to special education.

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No matter how much you crayfish, your busted

stiefel said:

Jumkie, Povol:



Enough with the foreplay. This manlove teasing act between the two you is clogging up every thread. Get a room and get it out of your sytems already.

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He is to small, i would hurt him

povol said:

.... selling their .... to chase their kids dreams. Notice the title, " JUST KIDS" as in not nearing the end of their careers.

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Here is what a World Champ had to say regarding your notion of age.



"There's no age limit," Lorenzo told Gazzetta dello Sport. "[Carlos] Checa at 39 in superbikes is in his top form.



Pov's philosophy in life, "give up like I did."



No matter how you try to sugar coat it, you just can't polish a turd.



I find it quite amusing that one region of the country should stand out for all the wrong reasons.



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Jumkie said:

Here is what a World Champ had to say regarding your notion of age.



"There's no age limit," Lorenzo told Gazzetta dello Sport. "[Carlos] Checa at 39 in superbikes is in his top form.



Pov's philosophy in life, "give up like I did."



No matter how you try to sugar coat it, you just can't polish a turd.



I find it quite amusing that one region of the country should stand out for all the wrong reasons.

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Your going to make me point out the obvious



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This chart shows that illegal immigrants still love hot weather, and hate school. You can chart grad rates as if they were immigration and weather patterns.

povol said:

Your going to make me point out the obvious



This chart shows that illegal immigrants still love hot weather, and hate school. You can chart grad rates as if they were immigration and weather patterns.

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hahaha What took you so long?



That is about the weather. I personally prefer the warm too. But it seems illegal immigrants don't discriminate when it comes to hot or cold climate. Check this out, the top ten states with illegal immigration, about half are cold and the other half warm climates, Cali has both, north is cooler than the south.



On your point that they are bringing down grad rates in the nation's region called "The South", you can see that if we were to map the top 10 states, immigration is a scatter plot geographically.



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Here are these top ten states from the list mapped out below and designated with a circle.





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A couple of observations. Notice that Arizona and Cali, both with the high immigrant population are still NOT at the bottom rung in grad rates, and are at the average or above the national average; UNLIKE the astonishingly visually consistent yellow states across the region of The South (I'm talking about the Civil War "South", The Confederate South, the South who fought for the preservation of slavery; not the geographical South, just a minor clarification for out non-American friends). So your superficial hypothesis doesn't hold up on both counts, weather and by populations residence.



Visually you can see the top ten states with the highest immigration populations. As you look at the map, consider the SCATTER of immigration of the top ten states identified by a circle, compared the astonishingly concentrated cluster of Southern states (mostly all yellow and together). Again, notice immigration is all scattered about the map spanning across all rungs of the grad rates per State, UNLIKE the astonishingly consistent yellow field that is The South, the Confederate South...or as I would like to call them, The Dumb South.



I'll give you one thing about this region, at least they are fantastically united and homologous. Its no wonder politically, they are all of one mindset...the one that Fox tell them to think.







Would you like to continue or concede?

Jumkie said:

hahaha What took you so long?



That is about the weather. I personally prefer the warm too. But it seems illegal immigrants don't discriminate when it comes to hot or cold climate.

Check this out, the top ten states with illegal immigration, about half are cold and the other half warm climates, Cali has both, north is cooler than the south.



On your point that they are bringing down grad rates in the nation's region called "The South", you can see that if we were to map the top 10 states, immigration is a scatter plot geographically.



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Here are these top ten states from the list mapped out below and designated with a circle.





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A couple of observations. Notice that Arizona and Cali, both with the high illegal immigrants rates are still NOT at the bottom of the rung in grad rates; UNLIKE as IS astonishingly consistent across the region of Southern States (I'm talking about the Civil War "South", The Confederate South, the South who fought for the preservation of slavery; not the geographical South, just a minor clarification for out non-American friends).

So your superficial hypothesis doesn't hold up on both counts, weather and by populations residence.



Here you can see a red dot on all the top ten states with the highest illegal immigration populations. As you look at the map, consider the SCATTER of immigration of the top ten states identified by a circle, compared the astonishingly narrow cluster of Southern states (mostly all yellow and together). Again, notice immigration is all scattered about the map spanning across all rungs of the grad rates per State, UNLIKE the astonishingly consistent yellow field that is the South, the Confederate South...or as I would like to call them, The Dumb South. I'll give you one thing about this region, at least they are fantastically united and homologous. Its no wonder politically, they are all of one mindset...the one that Fox tell them to think.







Would you like to continue or concede?

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Why do you keep using that 2005 map, when the 2008 map clearly shows a different dynamic. California got a shade lighter, and Tennessee got a shade darker. As a teacher, i probably would'nt want to show any of them if i were you. The great progressive state of California lagging behind Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky, and a virtual tie with Alabama. You might want stop the comparisons, someone might just take note of what a fine job you all are doing out there.

povol said:

Why do you keep using that 2005 map, when the 2008 map clearly shows a different dynamic. California got a shade lighter, and Tennessee got a shade darker. As a teacher, i probably would'nt want to show any of them if i were you. The great progressive state of California lagging behind Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky, and a virtual tie with Alabama. You might want stop the comparisons, someone might just take note of what a fine job you all are doing out there.

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I used 05 because that was the undisputed Bush years. You remember him right, he called himself 'the education president'. Ok, use the 08 map, same ..... Using YOUR logic (PLANC logic) then Republican teachers in The South are woefully worse than the 'liberal' teachers in Cali and the rest of similarly inclined States. That actually makes your region look worse. So, maybe you can offer up another explanation, since the 'immigration' and 'weather' ones didn't work. What is it? Is there something in the water? Or is it that after school, all the Southern kids are forced to watch Fox?

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With that being said, i would like to hear more about what you did. Were you at the end of a rope when you decided to jump, or were things going along relatively well and you just got a bug up your ... to do something different.

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More of the bug-up-the-...!! I was among other things, managing the prepress operations for a division of Torstar (Canadian print media giant) and there was an ugly labour dispute which was basically a union busting move by the company. After watching my staff rack up debt, miss mortgage payments and struggle to feed their kids for more than six months I decided to quit the position, and get the .... off the hamster wheel myself... it seemed pointless accumulating stuff, so I just thought I'd rather try living with less material .... and hopefully more fulfilment. Its not been easy but the challenge has brought me closer to where I want my life to be.

Mick D said:

More of the bug-up-the-...!! I was among other things, managing the prepress operations for a division of Torstar (Canadian print media giant) and there was an ugly labour dispute which was basically a union busting move by the company. After watching my staff rack up debt, miss mortgage payments and struggle to feed their kids for more than six months I decided to quit the position, and get the .... off the hamster wheel myself... it seemed pointless accumulating stuff, so I just thought I'd rather try living with less material .... and hopefully more fulfilment. Its not been easy but the challenge has brought me closer to where I want my life to be.

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Cool, now that my kids are grown and gone, my wife wants to pull up stakes and do something off the wall. She can find a job anywhere and just wants to go somewhere different. Probably not as different as Thailand, but wants a change. Im the complete opposite, burrowed in like a tick in my comfort zone.

Pov, I like you, but much as it galls me, I have to agree with Jumkie. Despite his belligerence, argumentativeness, and sheer blooody-mindedness, there is within that confused sozzled persona an uncanny intuitiveness and understanding of the world as it is. Here is a brilliant post from an Australian forum. It is how I believe it to be. Pov, for those like yourself, that have been fed on a philosophy (or religion ) from birth, it can be very hard to understand the forces at work..........................



NB- msm = mainstream media, ie Fox News, Murdoch press



Mulga Mumblebrain :



08 Feb 2012 11:28:12am

Let me give you my condensed global economics for dummies. The Right has dominated the planet for some decades, mostly by subverting or attacking countries of different economic systems and imposing their neo-liberal, market fundamentalist, hyper-individualistic and rabidly anti-collaborationist system across the planet.

As a result global inequality has grown rapidly, with more and more wealth in the hands of the rich. The rich, being insatiably greedy, have preferred investing in financial speculation, where they have invented new means to leverage a mole-hill of capital into mountains of debt, entirely created out of thin air and hedged about with 'derivatives' once putatively a type of insurance but long since become simply devices for quasi-larcenous speculation and manipulation. The rich have gathered together into hedge, wealth and vulture funds, where the weight of their money power trumps that of all others, the true meaning of 'leaving it to the market'.

The rich got carried away over the years, what with Alan Greenspan topping up the punch-bowl with free money every time it looked like the hyper-bubble was about to pop. Various highly contrived bubbles are currently deflating, but the rich refuse to follow neo-liberal theory (that's for losers, and was always a 'convenient untruth')and suffer losses for over-ambitious grifting. No, it is much better to have their political employees bail them out (to the tune of 29 trillion in the USA, so far) and liquidate society instead. So the serfs get high unemployment, falling wages, housing values deep underwater with mortgages unpayable, shrinking conditions, huge 'give-backs', social welfare retrenchment and increasingly contingent and precarious employment without any benefits or health insurance, whatsoever. Conditions in European states, like Greece, where the self-inflicted social euthanasia pf 'austerity' is the new sado-religion, are even worse, and our turn will come here, in due season.

And what is the response of the ruling global parasite classes to this economic debacle and implosion? Why a demand, mediated by their wholly owned propaganda system, the MSM, for 'More, more, more' of the same. More 'labour market reform' ie destruction of unions and ripping off of wages and conditions. More 'tax cuts', for the deserving rich, of course. More war, so good for business and crucial to see off the Chinese menace. More of everything that got us into this pickle. No ecological remediation, no renewable energy, no empowerment of workers in the workplace, no increase in welfare payments-none of these because they benefit the undeserving 99%. No just more pandering to the rich, and a rapid descent into economic pandaemonium.

What a load of rubbish. Global warming doesn't exist. Check the facts on this. Socialism breeds more corruption than capitalism. Make the people government dependent.

woody996 said:

What a load of rubbish. Global warming doesn't exist. Check the facts on this. Socialism breeds more corruption than capitalism. Make the people government dependent.

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Wow.

woody996 said:

What a load of rubbish. Global warming doesn't exist. Check the facts on this. Socialism breeds more corruption than capitalism. Make the people government dependent.

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Indeed, I'd advise you to do just that.

woody996 said:

What a load of rubbish. Global warming doesn't exist. Check the facts on this. Socialism breeds more corruption than capitalism. Make the people government dependent.

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What do you define as 'socialist'?