USA gets 2 for 08?

I agree I think Indy is way to dangerous to host a race, look at previous F1 accidents there...plus it has a really boring infield layout.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>MSA said that the race would replace the Chinese GP at Shanghai, an event that hasn’t had the success that Dorna had hoped for in the world’s most populous nation.

This really pi$$es me off, Shanghai IMO is a pretty interesting track amongst all the twists and that awesome long straight, it is one of the newer and safer tracks out there!!!

Ermm some ppl cannot even afford a £20 ticket in the standing areas let alone £100 or more in the grandstands, so maybe Dorna should promote the event more in the city like the F1 posse does, and do some hot deals to try and rope more of the local's through the gates.

Like most other places MotoGP is not promoted enough to he masses.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dazza @ Dec 29 2006, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree I think Indy is way to dangerous to host a race, look at previous F1 accidents there...plus it has a really boring infield layout.



This really pi$$es me off, Shanghai IMO is a pretty interesting track amongst all the twists and that awesome long straight, it is one of the newer and safer tracks out there!!!

Ermm some ppl cannot even afford a £20 ticket in the standing areas let alone £100 or more in the grandstands, so maybe Dorna should promote the event more in the city like the F1 posse does, and do some hot deals to try and rope more of the local's through the gates.

Like most other places MotoGP is not promoted enough to he masses.
it would be a great shame if china was dropped,its a world championship so should be fought around the world imo. bring back welcom too.
it looks like dorna are looking to the richer countrys to host and dropping countrys that the local people are poorer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Dec 29 2006, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>it would be a great shame if china was dropped,its a world championship so should be fought around the world imo. bring back welcom too.
it looks like dorna are looking to the richer countrys to host and dropping countrys that the local people are poorer.


Be afraid Rog, thy're onto us, they are starting to take all the races to the USA..................Its our own fault, for saying Haystack would only win more races if they moved the whole season to Laguna Seca.........you watch, 2 this year, 3 next....................


Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Dec 29 2006, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Be afraid Rog, thy're onto us, they are starting to take all the races to the USA..................Its our own fault, for saying Haystack would only win more races if they moved the whole season to Laguna Seca.........you watch, 2 this year, 3 next....................
Pete
i hope where both wrong,but i fear our sport will just be a money making machine to some,just like other sports have turned into.
just imagine motogp with the nascar touch

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Dec 29 2006, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i hope where both wrong,but i fear our sport will just be a money making machine to some,just like other sports have turned into.
just imagine motogp with the nascar touch


Scary thought mate, all these bikes going around in circles for hours.......

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Dec 29 2006, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i hope where both wrong,but i fear our sport will just be a money making machine to some,just like other sports have turned into.
just imagine motogp with the nascar touch

YOU SHUT YOUR FILTHY, DIRTY, MOUTH ROGER!

DON'T EVER COMPARE MY BELOVED MOTO GP TO NASCAR!

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!? FK!!

bad news for motogp. I don't wanna another race in US.
maybe one more in europe and i agree that Spain has a lot of races. 2 is enough.

maybe one race in east europe maybe hungary. I wish a race in romania but is still a dream. I hope someday romania will be the host for a motogp race.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mike @ Dec 29 2006, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>bad news for motogp. I don't wanna another race in US.
maybe one more in europe and i agree that Spain has a lot of races. 2 is enough.

maybe one race in east europe maybe hungary. I wish a race in romania but is still a dream. I hope someday romania will be the host for a motogp race.

i disagree..i think theMSUT give the US another GP, just not at INDY.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yamahamer-AL @ Dec 29 2006, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i disagree..i think theMSUT give the US another GP, just not at INDY.



Why US and not Canada or Mexic? I think just an GP will not help the motor sport Maybe i'll like just when will have 125, 250 cc also.
As other says safety and popularity are problems in US. I think is more popular in Europe and the level of safety is high here then there.
Maybe UK should have the second GP because is very popular there( I'm wrong?).

Just my 2cents.

I think one GP per country is enough. The answer to the US problem could be to set up a roaming GP, between all of the Americas. One year they could go to Miller, the next to some circuit in Canada, the next to Mexico, and then back to Miller, and so on, alongside the GP at Laguna.

It does kinda do my head in that the US never seems to be happy. Most countrys would be grateful just to have a GP, but America want a second. And if we give the Us a second, how long before they want a third?

I wish they would just go to Jerez in Spain, or at least not Valencia, there just isn't enough overtaking happens on that track.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mike @ Dec 29 2006, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why US and not Canada or Mexic? I think just an GP will not help the motor sport Maybe i'll like just when will have 125, 250 cc also.
As other says safety and popularity are problems in US. I think is more popular in Europe and the level of safety is high here then there.
Maybe UK should have the second GP because is very popular there( I'm wrong?).

Just my 2cents.

why not Canada??..well just cause, .... CANADA!...

and you think GP is more popular in Mexico??...no.
the US has a HUGE following of GP!..hello.. Laguna had about the same turn out as some of the Spanish GPs...compare that to Turkey, China, and Malaysia (SP)..they have nill...

safty issues yes, but depends on what track we're talking bout..since Miller is as safe if not safer than the race tracks run by GP now...

but Indy naaaaa, me no like.

please God - don't let them go to Indy

if they wanna banked curve - tell them to go see the corkscrew - that's a curve on a bank

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Dec 29 2006, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think one GP per country is enough. The answer to the US problem could be to set up a roaming GP, between all of the Americas. One year they could go to Miller, the next to some circuit in Canada, the next to Mexico, and then back to Miller, and so on, alongside the GP at Laguna.

It does kinda do my head in that the US never seems to be happy. Most countrys would be grateful just to have a GP, but America want a second. And if we give the Us a second, how long before they want a third?
Thats right, we're never happy, and we won't stop until we have ALL the races in the US! We will have the final race take place during Half time of the Superbowl! AND we are going to take the Tour De France and run it in Vermont! AH-HAHAHAHAahem. Serious though, I think it's more what Dorna wants than what any country wants. If they could get a proper track in the US and pull in the fans then their profits would be huge. I don't think a roaming GP anywhere makes sense because the investment for the track and Dorna are so large they need multiple year commitments. Al is right, it's about putting butts in the seats and all the marketing stuff that comes with it, and the US is the big untapped market from Dorna's eyes.

Spainiards and Italians is track hogs!

Seriously though, where has Dorna said anything about Indy? I think the promoters WANT a GP round, but I heard that El Spain wants a 25th Grand Prix, too. Dosen't mean it's gonna happen. Dorna is no charity, after all. I agree a World Championship should be a WORLD Championship, Not a world championship with a few rounds outside the EU to keep all the colonists and heathens happy, but turnouts and profits are important to the promoters, who, in all fairness, are just doing what's best for the shareholders, like any other corporation would. As long as we have a calender full of great tracks (Except Qatar), Great Bikes (Except Tech 3 M1s) and great riders (Except... hang on, Cardoso is no more) we shouldnt really complain. It could be worse.

I think the excuse for China is a lame one. If this is so, why didn't they drop Qatar?!!! Poor turnout, my ass!!!

I can't believe Indy! This would be the only race I wouldn't be looking forward to.

^

I agree and I shall be there in the streets of Shanghai promoting the bloody race myself if it gets more bums down to the track..lol anyway the main Grandstand alone seats 29,000 spectators which looked pretty full up earlier this year...but as Julian and Toby mentioned as I re watched that race today, like F1 its all about educating the masses so hopefully 2007 will show a surprise turnout.

That aside talking about another future powerhouse, when is India going to express an interest in motosport and announce plans of a super dooper circuit??

I'd bet it has to do with the Olympics held there that summer.

^ that's an interesting point..

The Olympics will be held in Beijing as we know, and Beijing is a good 2 hours by plane to Shanghai, HOWEVER The Shanghai football stadium may feature in the games ???









And don't say executions

The reason there is even discussion of a second US round is because of the enormous motorcycle market in the states. It is a giant market that has somewhat taken to MotoGP but it needs more to really take hold. Dorna has the same dreams for China which is why they won't axe Shanghai from the calendar for at least another five years to give their product a chance to take hold in the market. There is not nearly the same market buzz in Canada or Mexico than there is in the states, close in Canada but not at the same level.

As far as possible tracks, there is no way Indy will get it unless Tony George builds an entirely new road course. No one will agree to riding on the banking and the infield is too small to house an entire road course. If anything the potential suitors have to be Miller and Road America. Miller is state of the art and Road America is in the middle of major rennovations with the goal of "attracting a world championship race." RA has been in the process of constructing a new paddock and media center since spring of 2006 and have announced they will remove the Billy Mitchell bridge before May of 2007 amongst other modifications to the track. Road America is making a major move to get a GP.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dazza @ Dec 30 2006, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>^ that's an interesting point..

The Olympics will be held in Beijing as we know, and Beijing is a good 2 hours by plane to Shanghai, HOWEVER The Shanghai football stadium may feature in the games ???
And don't say executions
all the snow got to my head... Beijing, Beiging, Beijing.... when ever I think of China, Shanghai flashes in neon lights!!!!

Ya, Miller gets my vote. It's like a 10-12 hr. drive!!! My gut feels Road America as Ooost stated. For the eastern US, and the western has Laguna