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Geonerd
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"You want me to inform the rest of the team?"


"Sure, absolutely.  No Problem!:D


 


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Its as plausible explanation as any other hahaha
 
You're got to believe that at least a few folks inside MarcMurder's team had a bad feeling in their tummies as they say MM wiz by all alone.  Particularly since Pedrosa had pitted TWO laps earlier.


 


The notion that HRC as a whole got confused doesn't entirely wash, since you'd assume that someone, somewhere would have seen Perdosa's and MarcMurder's pit schedules.  "Hum, these lap numbers differ by two.  That sounds fishy."
 
chopperman
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hahahaha, that's actually quite funny.


Yea Rog, little .......'s been funny lately, Jum's thinks it's because his nuts finally dropped.
 
Geonerd
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You're got to believe that at least a few folks inside MarcMurder's team had a bad feeling in their tummies as they say MM wiz by all alone.  Particularly since Pedrosa had pitted TWO laps earlier.


 


The notion that HRC as a whole got confused doesn't entirely wash, since you'd assume that someone, somewhere would have seen Perdosa's and MarcMurder's pit schedules.  "Hum, these lap numbers differ by two.  That sounds fishy."


If HRC had got it wrong i doubt Dani would have come in when he did. But a slight wording slip when relaying the message could have cause confusion. "by lap 10"  "by the end of lap 10". Could well be something as silly as that.
 
chopperman
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So if it wasn't a mistake, what was it ?  Surely you're not suggesting it was deliberate. Why would he do that knowing the penalty was disqualification.
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How can you say Pedrosas team figured it but Marquezs didnt. They are on the same team.

Im saying Marquez was too stupid to figure out to come in despite the 2 guys racing alongside him, the multiple pit boards saying come in, the chunked tire screaming "no mas....no mas!!, and the common sense meter pinging redline.

The kid has made major gaffs probabaly 30% of the time hes raced this year. Its a pattern of idiocy that can only be explained by someone with a low IQ
 
SuperManatee
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How can you say Pedrosas team figured it but Marquezs didnt. They are on the same team.

Im saying Marquez was too stupid to figure out to come in despite the 2 guys racing alongside him, the multiple pit boards saying come in, the chunked tire screaming "no mas....no mas!!, and the common sense meter pinging redline.

The kid has made major gaffs probabaly 30% of the time hes raced this year. Its a pattern of idiocy that can only be explained by someone with a low IQ


But who is to say they were both told of this rule at the same time, or even by the same person.
 
chopperman
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But who is to say they were both told of this rule at the same time, or even by the same person.


They were told of the rule that much we clearly know.

Trying to infer that they didn't know the rule at this point is conspiracy

Maybe you know more than I do. I've only watched the race. I haven't seen or read any of the press releases.

Is Honda saying that they didn't know what the rule was or is that something that's being made up here?
 
kiddyK
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Correct.


 


Stupid =SUM(C2:C5) function! .... excel just gets more and more stupid every year :D I am now more excited than I was before...


 


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Seeing this would basically have to involve Pedrosa as well as Lorenzo beating him in both races, I don't think in the normal course of events it is likely to occur.


 


It is bike racing though. Mishaps happen. Jerez might be a wet race as it was last year.
 
SuperManatee
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They were told of the rule that much we clearly know.

Trying to infer that they didn't know the rule at this point is conspiracy

Maybe you know more than I do. I've only watched the race. I haven't seen or read any of the press releases.

Is Honda saying that they didn't know what the rule was or is that something that's being made up here?


Where just talking, looking at logical reasons for the mistake. You said you don't believe it was a mistake yet im still waiting for a logical argument from you to support that. Low IQ is all your have said. I don't buy that. After all he has not only won championships, he also speaks at least 2 languages.
 
Jumkie, on 20 Oct 2013 - 22:53, said:



2. Marquez was disqualified for breaking the rules that were established

before the race.
Regardless of the unusual circumstances, he and his team failed to

comply with what was required of every contestant. Hence the disqualification.

Period.




 


Jums, yes he was dq'd due to breaching the rule but was it stated that the punishment for ignoring that 'local' rule would be disqualification and if so, was this communicated to all teams?


 


Let us not forget that Pedrosa also broke a rule at pit entry and received a penalty which all commentators found 'perplexing' so from that I do feel that the circumstances bought on the teams has led to some interesting penalty imposisitions that may not have been clear to teh paddock (again, three riders dq'd not 1)






 





 


4. Pedrosa immediately ignored the directions by the marshals and made

no attempt to drop down a position when called to do so.
When Marquez

rejoined the race, he was already disqualified and therefore his position in

the race did not exist. Race direction should have continued to insist Pedrosa

drop down a position. It may have been a moot point, as he probably would have

got past Rossi again.


 


No Pedrosa did not immediately ignore as you generally get three laps to adhere to an order from race direction.


 


Additionally, at the time of re-entry to the circuit Marquez had committed the offencet hat would see him eventually dq'd but was NOT at that point in time dq'd and as such was still part of the race and thus the position drop was valid


 
 
Gaz
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Jumkie, on 20 Oct 2013 - 22:53, said:



2. Marquez was disqualified for breaking the rules that were established

before the race.
Regardless of the unusual circumstances, he and his team failed to

comply with what was required of every contestant. Hence the disqualification.

Period.




 


Jums, yes he was dq'd due to breaching the rule but was it stated that the punishment for ignoring that 'local' rule would be disqualification and if so, was this communicated to all teams?


 


Let us not forget that Pedrosa also broke a rule at pit entry and received a penalty which all commentators found 'perplexing' so from that I do feel that the circumstances bought on the teams has led to some interesting penalty imposisitions that may not have been clear to teh paddock (again, three riders dq'd not 1)






 





 


4. Pedrosa immediately ignored the directions by the marshals and made

no attempt to drop down a position when called to do so.
When Marquez

rejoined the race, he was already disqualified and therefore his position in

the race did not exist. Race direction should have continued to insist Pedrosa

drop down a position. It may have been a moot point, as he probably would have

got past Rossi again.


 


No Pedrosa did not immediately ignore as you generally get three laps to adhere to an order from race direction.


 


Additionally, at the time of re-entry to the circuit Marquez had committed the offencet hat would see him eventually dq'd but was NOT at that point in time dq'd and as such was still part of the race and thus the position drop was valid


 


Eurosport stated it was made clear disqualification would be the punishment for pit stop window infractions. As for Dani, i'm surprised he didn't get black flagged for not dropping a place. So as it happened dani broke the pit lane rules and ignored marshals and got away scott free.
 
chopperman
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Where just talking, looking at logical reasons for the mistake. You said you don't believe it was a mistake yet im still waiting for a logical argument from you to support that. Low IQ is all your have said. I don't buy that. After all he has not only won championships, he also speaks at least 2 languages.


Ive laid out my examples a few times now. Hes the only rider that seemed unable to comprehend the 10 lap rule.

Even the bumbling country bumpkin Hayden could figure it out.

What he did was akin to a soccer player kicking it into the wrong goal. Why would you excuse idiocy.

Learning multiple languages as a child does not equate IQ. Its learned behavior thru repetitive speech. Much different then memorization learning. I think anyone that lives in the southern border states can attest to that. Also there is no evidence that equates intelligence to championships. Talent most always rules out
 
chopperman
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If HRC had got it wrong i doubt Dani would have come in when he did. But a slight wording slip when relaying the message could have cause confusion. "by lap 10"  "by the end of lap 10". Could well be something as silly as that.


 


Yea, maybe they thought they had a two lap window?  Given the 19 lap race, that doesn't 'fit' particularly well, but maybe that's what they truly believed?
 
SuperManatee
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Ive laid out my examples a few times now. Hes the only rider that seemed unable to comprehend the 10 lap rule.

Even the bumbling country bumpkin Hayden could figure it out.

What he did was akin to a soccer player kicking it into the wrong goal. Why would you excuse idiocy.

Learning multiple languages as a child does not equate IQ. Its learned behavior thru repetitive speech. Much different then memorization learning. I think anyone that lives in the southern border states can attest to that. Also there is no evidence that equates intelligence to championships. Talent most always rules out


You see that is where you are wrong. 3 riders got black flagged for late pit stop.
 
chopperman
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You see that is where you are wrong. 3 riders got black flagged for late pit stop.


Are you talking CRT because frankly I dont consider that part of the show.

Not one millisecond of coverage is shown on my tv so I dont even know if it even exists without being told. Its a separate championship full of castoffs and has beens. As far as I know the top 10 guys didnt have a problem.

If Im wrong I stand corrected but Marquez still is a dangerous .....
 
Riders were ordered to pit by the end of the 10th lap at the latest

out of safety fears, but Marquez sped past the Honda garage as his team

believed completing lap 11 was allowed.



"The plan we had was not correct, we thought that we could do that

lap. We thought we could go into the pit at the end of lap 11," Marquez

told reporters at the Phillip Island circuit.



"The problem was not with the pit board, that was fine, when I saw

'Box' I came in. Now we need to forget about it and just concentrate in

Motegi."


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/motorcycling-lorenzo-wins-marquez-disqualified-060545198--spt.html
 
SuperManatee
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Are you talking CRT because frankly I dont consider that part of the show.

Not one millisecond of coverage is shown on my tv so I dont even know if it even exists without being told. Its a separate championship full of castoffs and has beens. As far as I know the top 10 guys didnt have a problem.

If Im wrong I stand corrected but Marquez still is a dangerous .....


That as maybe but there were still require to follow the same pit stop rule as the prototypes. You said only marquez was stupid enough to get it wrong. 3 rider who were all "told" the rules got it wrong. FACT !
 
Geonerd
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Video of Marc nearly killing Jorenzo and himself.


 


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60092457/MotoGP/NoLook.mp4


 


From the time he crosses the pit lane speed line to the time they collide, MM doesn't appear to so much as glance to his right.


Right about the time that the commentator is saying "Let's have a look", MM should be doing just that, taking a look over his shoulder to assess the track.  He does no such thing, and drops down right into the middle of the ....... racing line.  Lorenzo was balls out and arguably couldn't have tightened his line to save his life.  It's only blind luck that MM wasn't another 6 inches to the right - the resultant collision would have made roadkill of them both.


 


IMO, the ...... needs more penalty points.  Lots more.


but he did look though.  He looked twice while he was still in pitlane...the 2nd time both JLo and Pedbot were in clear view...he knew where they were
 
kiddyK
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It's a moot point anyway. The points as they stand are MM 298 JL 280. If Lorenzo wins both the next races, he ends up with 305 points. MM only needs 8 points from the next two meetings to win the WC, so a couple of 12th places.


you must be a quantum physics professor as your knowledge of arithmetic is impeccable
 
SuperManatee
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Are you talking CRT because frankly I dont consider that part of the show.

Not one millisecond of coverage is shown on my tv so I dont even know if it even exists without being told. Its a separate championship full of castoffs and has beens. As far as I know the top 10 guys didnt have a problem.
If Im wrong I stand corrected but Marquez still is a dangerous .....


 


I'm curious: what are your views on Bautista? 
 

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