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[quote name="Geonerd" post="364560" timestamp="1382287725"]

Video of Marc nearly killing Jorenzo and himself.

 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60092457/MotoGP/NoLook.mp4

 


Lets try to get inside MM's head for this incident. Hes pulling out of the pits and coming onto the track all the while looking foward, foward, foward. If he doesnt glance to the right why would that be?

A)He doesnt think anyone will be there?

B) it doesnt dawn on him that he is in a spot that requires caution

C) he plain forgot

D) he didnt realize he was on the racing line


I cant think of any more legitimate reasons. The four I came up with all tell me hes not intelligent enough to be riding a motorcycle at speed


The NFL is littered with guys like him. Obscene talent that cannot process split second decisions in the heat of the moment. These guys never change because they dont have the capacity to.

This Marc Marquez experiment will not end well
 
SuperManatee
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[quote name="Geonerd" post="364560" timestamp="1382287725"]

Video of Marc nearly killing Jorenzo and himself.

 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60092457/MotoGP/NoLook.mp4

 


Lets try to get inside MM's head for this incident. Hes pulling out of the pits and coming onto the track all the while looking foward, foward, foward. If he doesnt glance to the right why would that be?

A)He doesnt think anyone will be there?
B) it doesnt dawn on him that he is in a spot that requires caution

C) he plain forgot

D) he didnt realize he was on the racing line


I cant think of any more legitimate reasons. The four I came up with all tell me hes not intelligent enough to be riding a motorcycle at speed


The NFL is littered with guys like him. Obscene talent that cannot process split second decisions in the heat of the moment. These guys never change because they dont have the capacity to.

This Marc Marquez experiment will not end well





 


I am sorry

but this is BS. Making a correct pit lane exit requires ‘split second decisions in the heat of the moment’?

 If anything his superb race craft

requires this ability and he is light years ahead in it than anyone else on the

grid.  I attribute the incident to

confusion that can easily be understood with his lack of experience and the

fact that that he just missed the bike change window.  





 
 
And actually after watching the specific video a few time, there was plenty of room for JLo on the racing line. He went wide. I think Mark left him space, just the amonut of space a rider will levae to a fast incoming rider under qualifying for example.
 
Evolution
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I am sorry

but this is BS. Making a correct pit lane exit requires ‘split second decisions in the heat of the moment’?

 If anything his superb race craft ....  


 


"Superb Race Craft?"


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Oh, you mean like this?


 


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MM Looked back then a sec later was live on the track he'd got to go for it race who wouldnt. ffs. all in all this is Motogp / BridgeStone mega .... up


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Pigeon
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MM Looked back then a sec later was live on the track he'd got to go for it race who wouldnt. ffs. all in all this is Motogp / BridgeStone mega .... up


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No.


Just no.


 


In any form of racing, the driver or rider that is rejoining the track is solely responsible for doing so in a safe manner.  The vehicles already on the track have complete right of way.


 


Either MM didn't look, and blindly drove onto the racing line, or he did sneak a last minute peek (or maybe heard Lorenzo coming?) and decided to get cute.


 


Neither explanation is remotely acceptable.
 
Geonerd
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No.


Just no.


 


In any form of racing, the driver or rider that is rejoining the track is solely responsible for doing so in a safe manner.  The vehicles already on the track have complete right of way.


 


Either MM didn't look, and blindly drove onto the racing line, or he did sneak a last minute peek (or maybe heard Lorenzo coming?) and decided to get cute.


 


Neither explanation is remotely acceptable.


I have not been here long, but I have taken the time to read a lot of what has been said about Marquez, yes he has a history fuckups, but the lengths some have gone to to condemn him is astonishing, but to suggest he deliberately put his bike in the path of a very fast approaching Jorge is ludicrous.
 
the-insider
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I have not been here long, but I have taken the time to read a lot of what has been said about Marquez, yes he has a history fuckups, but the lengths some have gone to to condemn him is astonishing, but to suggest he deliberately put his bike in the path of a very fast approaching Jorge is ludicrous.
I won´t pretend to know what really happened. But it seems to me that either 1) he knew Jorge was approaching and tried to race him, in which case he was in fact deliberately putting his bike in Jorge's path or 2) he did not know Jorge was approaching, in which case he was neglegent and not too bright, as he would have seen Jorge pit the previous lap and should have known they would end up going into turn one at the same time. I believe neither scenario speaks well for someone who is supposed to be a professional motorcycly racer.

In any case, this situation would not have occured in the first place had Marquez not pitted one lap late.

Edit: Geo beat me to it.
 
Geonerd
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No.

Just no.

 

In any form of racing, the driver or rider that is rejoining the track is solely responsible for doing so in a safe manner.  The vehicles already on the track have complete right of way.

 

Either MM didn't look, and blindly drove onto the racing line, or he did sneak a last minute peek (or maybe heard Lorenzo coming?) and decided to get cute.

 

Neither explanation is remotely acceptable.


None at all but listening to people manufacture reasons is equal parts disturbing and hilarious


If I walk across the street without looking is that superb walkcraft or sheer stupidity.
 
the-insider
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I have not been here long, but I have taken the time to read a lot of what has been said about Marquez, yes he has a history fuckups, but the lengths some have gone to to condemn him is astonishing, but to suggest he deliberately put his bike in the path of a very fast approaching Jorge is ludicrous.


 


Then tell me which choice you prefer?


 


1. He drove blindly onto a live racetrack, arriving in the middle of one of the most potentially dangerous corners found on the schedule.


(In which case, he's a ....... ......)


 


or


 


2. He deliberately attempted to block Lorenzo, who was closing at ungodly speed.


(In which case he's a ....... psychopath.)


 


or


 


Maybe you can suggest a viable "Door Number 3" option?  :)


 


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stiefel
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I won´t pretend to know what really happened. But it seems to me that either 1) he knew Jorge was approaching and tried to race him, in which case he was in fact deliberately putting his bike in Jorge's path or 2) he did not know Jorge was approaching, in which case he was neglegent and not too bright, as he would have seen Jorge pit the previous lap and should have known they would end up going into turn one at the same time. I believe neither scenario speaks well for someone who is supposed to be a professional motorcycly racer.

In any case, this situation would not have occured in the first place had Marquez not pitted one lap late.


Edit: Geo beat me to it.


Or if Bridgestone had done the necessary R&D on the new track surface, then brought a tyre that was not dangerous and requiring a pit stop.
 
rezonator636
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Your math is off a bit there. If Lorenzo wins both the next races, he'll end up with 330 points (280+50=300). If he wins both, and Marquez comes in third in both races, they'll be tied at the end of the season, with Lorenzo winning the title because he's had more race wins. So MM doesn't have this nearly as sown up as you think. 


 


Correct.


 


Stupid =SUM(C2:C5) function! .... excel just gets more and more stupid every year :D I am now more excited than I was before...


 


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Geonerd
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Then tell me which choice you prefer?


 


1. He drove blindly onto a live racetrack, arriving in the middle of one of the most potentially dangerous corners found on the schedule.


(In which case, he's a ....... ......)


 


or


 


2. He deliberately attempted to block Lorenzo, who was closing at ungodly speed.


(In which case he's a ....... psychopath.)


 


or


 


Maybe you can suggest a viable "Door Number 3" option?  :)


 


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I don't know I am not him, and you don't know either, but I do not believe this for one second


 


2. He deliberately attempted to block Lorenzo, who was closing at ungodly speed.


(In which case he's a ....... psychopath.)
 
the-insider
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Or if Bridgestone had done the necessary R&D on the new track surface, then brought a tyre that was not dangerous and requiring a pit stop.
Or if the pit exit wouldn't have been lenghtened. Or if Lorzeno's engine would have blown up on the straight. Or if the earth would have stopped turning and they would have all been thrown out into space.

All true, but I don't think relevant for playing the blame game. My point is, Marquez could have, and should have avoided this incident.
 
kiddyK
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It's a moot point anyway. The points as they stand are MM 298 JL 280. If Lorenzo wins both the next races, he ends up with 305 points. MM only needs 8 points from the next two meetings to win the WC, so a couple of 12th places.


Turn 1 at Motegi could throw a spanner in the works. Caught many a rider out !
 
kiddyK
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It's a moot point anyway. The points as they stand are MM 298 JL 280. If Lorenzo wins both the next races, he ends up with 305 points. MM only needs 8 points from the next two meetings to win the WC, so a couple of 12th places.


 


Huh ? Did I miss something ? Right now Marquez leads with 298pts vs Lorenzo with 280pts. Two remaining races.


If lorenzo wins both, he'll be at 330ts. In this case Marquez HAS to be on the podium twice. 


 


Besides, I wonder what would happen if Lorenzo wins both races and Marquez finishes 3rd twice ? This would mean they'd have exactly 330pts each.
 
chopperman
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Turn 1 at Motegi could throw a spanner in the works. Caught many a rider out !


I was thinking the same ...... turn 1 at Motegi, championship decided.. mm gets punted by alvaro :lol:
 
Lets not forget the other incident. He was told the rules before the race. He had two clear indicators in Lorenzo and Pedrosa on when to pit. He had his pit board Lorenzo's pit board and Pedrosas pit board all saying the same thing. He had a chunked tire that was telling him enough. That is at least 5 to 6 indicators telling him when. No other rider on the grid had a problem but him.

What does it take for this kid to process simple information?
 

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