Thread watched MotoGP: 2024 Round 3 Grand Prix of The Americas April 12-14

[ApriliaRS250]

Anyone knows if acostas gas gas has the same spec like the factory ktms?

I think its too early in the season To write MM off and looks like we’ll have a season with more than two different race winners

Maybe we get a golden season with four or even five guys fighting it out.

Btw If marc hadnt crashed out leading the race he would been second in the standings

 

[Mick D]

#22 did personal attack on me first, do you think is was a good behavior? Why do you want to join him? You and #22 have been here since 2007/2008, then you could be both mature men, loyal to the best MotoGP forum, but did personal attack those who disagree with you?

Personal attacks have always been a fun part of this forum... If you can't take the heat, etc...

 

[Mick D]

surely he would have been on the podium had he not crashed...

Surely he would have crashed at some point later in the race considering his cavalier attitude to the limits and his brake issue.

 

[Saffa]

Anyone knows if acostas gas gas has the same spec like the factory ktms?

I think its too early in the season To write MM off and looks like we’ll have a season with more than two different race winners

Maybe we get a golden season with four or even five guys fighting it out.

Btw If marc hadnt crashed out leading the race he would been second in the standings

Gas Gas have the same bikes as the factory team

 

[warthog1]

Anyone knows if acostas gas gas has the same spec like the factory ktms?

I think its too early in the season To write MM off and looks like we’ll have a season with more than two different race winners

Maybe we get a golden season with four or even five guys fighting it out.

Btw If marc hadnt crashed out leading the race he would been second in the standings

I asked that question here not long ago too. 24 KTM too so presumably same spec.

You would expect him to have the best given his results so far.

 

[michaelm]

Mucked it up first time I posted.

You yourself earlier in the thread mentioned Bagnaia being a two time defending champion who can easily make up a 30 point deficit.

So why draw the curtains on the career of a guy who has won the MotoGP title 6 times and has been faster than Bagnaia in the last 2 races ?, and crashed out for reasons other than rider error, the error actually being committed by your boy Bagnaia in the second last race. And this indeed is on an inferior 2023 Ducati, rumoured to be equivalent to the bike which started thr 2023 season rather than the bike which finished that season, and a bike on which Bagnaia himself struggled early last season as I recall. Bagnaia doesn’t seem to regard him as negligible btw, hence the ill judged move when passed by MM.

Sure if MM crashes out of every race this season it won’t matter how fast he is before crashing, but he is not crashing due to rider error so there is no reason to assume he will keep doing so. .

He also is not on a GP 24 right now because he wanted to keep his options open by not signing with Pramac for 2 seasons, an offer which was made to him, rather suggesting he has options. He also can bring more sponsorship than any other rider on the grid as has been said .

So you seemed to be exulting about MM’s future being “gray” as you put it in and gave no justification for this being the case,,hence attracting adverse response on a forum populated by a nest of MM fans as you must know is the case if you are an habitue, We have had a cavalcade of anti-MM detractors on here who mostly dislike MM on the basis of him supposedly wronging Rossi in 2025, which many on here consider to be complete balderdash. So it was easy even if perhaps unfair to place you with the Valeban.

2015 obviously

 

[#22]

You mean the guy currently 5th in the championship and 30 points off the leader? You really think He and Vinales are a decent match for Acosta? If you do, the future is even greyer for you.

You are not happy obviously, but I see MM has no where to go next year.



30 points after 3 races, is it really big?
A 2 times champs, riding a supposedly dominant bike, that combination is clearly a match for any rider you can name here.

For whatever 2024 MotoGP outcome, my future will be always much brighter than yours.

I know English isn;t your first language, but that was not a personal insult. I merely pointed out that you are going to be disappointed if you think Bagnaia is going to suddenly start wiping the floor this season. 30 points after 3 races is huge. It's an entire race win plus some if Martin doesn't finish a race. This isn't 2022 when Bagnaia is going to be able to overhaul a 91 points advantage. Regarding him 'being a combination clearly a match for any rider you can name here", I disagree. As I stated, there are currently 4 riders, including his team mate and a rookie on a KTM, who is currently NOT a match for.

Probably just another Uccio troll account.

Where is Birdbird?

THinking of trolls, remember Zootalors?

"No where" here means no good factory options. He can still be happy with Gresini next year.

I disagree again, both KTM and Ducati have gone on record to say they are interested in having him on their factory bikes.

The Ducati stance on Marc Marquez’s 2025 factory hopes after Qatar debut

“Surely Marquez can also enter the fight to be Pecco's teammate,” Ducati team manager Davide Tardozzi said to AS.

“But we're in no hurry. I don't know when that decision will be made.


“Marquez is a great champion.”

Having Marquez, Acosta in KTM MotoGP roster would be "amazing", says team manager

Teased about the possibility of hiring Marquez, with whom he had already worked in the 125cc class, Guidotti described the prospect of having the six-time champion alongside Acosta in a KTM ‘dream team’ as intriguing.

"[With] Pedro we don't have to go looking for him, we already have him, so we already start with a good head start on the decisions to be made,” Guidotti told Sky Sport Italia.

“As for Marc, I won't hide that I would love to have him anyway. To have both of them would be amazing.”

I dont know why you post about career achievement here? MM is no doubt one of the greatest, but I believe his prime is over. Now riding an inferior machine, he is indeed in a very difficult situation this season with 3 GP24, Vinales now strong, and Acosta brilliant. His style perfectly matches the Honda characteristics where we see V line approaching the apex, but isn't the case with the Duc. Last 3 races he cannot dive into the corner like we have seen previously.

I don't think anyone would disagree his prime is over, even the man himself. But the amount of people who post about Rossi's past achievements, even when he was running outside the top 10, means it's only fair to offer the same courtesy to Marquez.
I expect Vinales to qualify and finish 10th at the next race, true to form.

Judging by their statements to the press, seems like Domenicali and Dall'igna are very impressed with Marc's performance during the weekend despite the Sunday DNF. They can analyze the data in depth so who knows what they saw. Also they probably expected the other GP23s to be much better than what they've been like so far in the season, Marc is the only one hanging out with the top contenders while the others are firmly in the midfield.

You're right, compared to year old Duc's last yr, they are nowhere. I wonder if being new to the bike with the GP23 is helping Marc. Many have struggled like Bastiannini and Bezzechi.

Anyone knows if acostas gas gas has the same spec like the factory ktms?

I would argue he is better on spec than Miller. I think in the 2nd race he got some updates before Miller.

Personal attacks have always been a fun part of this forum... If you can't take the heat, etc...

.... you!

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

Where is Birdbird?

THinking of trolls, remember Zootalors?

I

.... you!

Man I miss the trolls. I enjoy them as much as watching Marc beat the DUItalian. Hopefully Dogfood will keep us entertained since you chose to make enemies with him.

 

[PRS717]

DUItalian

Yea, took me a second.

 

[mylexicon]

Marquez was the fastest Ducati rider at COTA, surely he would have been on the podium had he not crashed, and he has finished 2nd twice in Sprint races. As far as I am concerned Marc is playing with house money, he doesn't need a championship in order to have a successful season.

He was fastest insofar as he crashed out of the lead. The fastest lap chart shows Marquez as the 4th fastest Ducati. Perhaps one lap pace is not the best indicator of total race pace (Bagnaia was fastest after all), but I don't think Marquez has what he needs to contend or even win races yet. Time will tell, but COTA is his stomping ground, and he was the 4th fastest Ducati.

I only care because my prediction was for Marquez to win a few races and be an outside contender for the title. COTA is one of the tracks I had circled for a possible Marquez win. We'll see what happens the rest of the season.

 

[JPSLotus]

He was fastest insofar as he crashed out of the lead. The fastest lap chart shows Marquez as the 4th fastest Ducati. Perhaps one lap pace is not the best indicator of total race pace (Bagnaia was fastest after all), but I don't think Marquez has what he needs to contend or even win races yet. Time will tell, but COTA is his stomping ground, and he was the 4th fastest Ducati.

I only care because my prediction was for Marquez to win a few races and be an outside contender for the title. COTA is one of the tracks I had circled for a possible Marquez win. We'll see what happens the rest of the season.

I was looking at the lap times, Marc was in the 2:03's on every lap after lap 1. Within a few tenths every single lap of the 10 race laps he completed. Based on what the podium finishers ran I think he could have been challenging for a race win if not for the brake issue. Maverick was running similar times and walking through the field, but he did pull out that 2:02.5 for fastest lap of the race so who really knows. He may also have had more in the pocket if pushed. Marc might also have been in tire conservation mode also.

But hey we'll never know what might have been. Just luck of the draw.

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

I am not overly concerned with Marc's result at cota. Cota is a Marc track but not a ducati track. He is having to change his style to adapt. So its possible the tracks he will be good at will change too.

 

[mikesbytes]

If he hadn't had the brake issue, I think it would have been a very interesting final few laps with a possible shootout between MM and Maverick. But I think Maverick was going to win that race no matter what based on the speed he showed all weekend. I was watching his pole lap the other day on Facebook. I just can't fathom having that kind of speed on a motorcycle, it seemed almost impossible. Throttle WOT on turn 10.

https://fb.watch/rv-Ah8vv8B/

But I will say with respects to Marc, it feels like he's on the cusp of something. There's improvement every race weekend, not yet to the point of challenging for wins, but at the point that he is making life very uncomfortable for this group of riders that haven't actually had the MM experience.

I agree that Viñales would have beaten MM. Devils advocate would say that Viñales isn’t good in a fight

Anyone knows if acostas gas gas has the same spec like the factory ktms?

I think its too early in the season To write MM off and looks like we’ll have a season with more than two different race winners

Maybe we get a golden season with four or even five guys fighting it out.

Btw If marc hadnt crashed out leading the race he would been second in the standings

I don’t know but it’s also about the level of support

You're right, compared to year old Duc's last yr, they are nowhere. I wonder if being new to the bike with the GP23 is helping Marc. Many have struggled like Bastiannini and Bezzechi

Have to compare with Zaco’s GP23 as last years updates aren’t included

 

[DavidSim]

I agree that Viñales would have beaten MM. Devils advocate would say that Viñales isn’t good in a fight

Seems to me that Vinales may have found his Mojo this year, we shall see !!!

 

[mikesbytes]

Seems to me that Vinales may have found his Mojo this year, we shall see !!!

Hopefully true and hopefully Aprilia is more consistent this year