<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Aug 6 2008, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No, it's not the way to go fast, they don't use TC with q tires, and good riders go just as fast without TC, but it's the easy way to go fast, a way to go fast consistently and the way for riders with no throttle control to go very fast and the way to go fast with worn tires. It's enough of an advantage that everyone depend on it to be part of the race. I don't like. Most of all, not because medicore riders go faster but because all the bike/rider combos get up to a certain pace during practice and that's the speed they are going with all through the race. They all spread out nicely each on their own pace with a few lone riders in the top and a smal bunch that are too close in speed fighting out for 4th or 5th and then another group fighting for 9th or what ever and then a few slow riders spread out at the end.
Look at SBK. The championship is boring as hell, it's in Bailiss pocket for a while now but most races are a thrill to watch. Without good enough tire technology to cope with the heavier bikes with more torque and less TC. A couple of seconds distance more often than not are driven in and the whole race has a dynamic to it that looks a liot like the 990 days. In motoGP today a two seconds lead is as good as 15 sec used to be. That's boring.
Sorry about the late reply.
That is what i meant,some riders use it more some less and most of them use it as a safety thing during a race,but they all use it.
I didn't know they didn't use TC with Q tires,i thought they only used different mapping using a lot more fuel to get the best output and maybe different engine brake settings plus ofcourse chassi settings.
I'm just a regular Joe reading as much as i can about racing wishing i was as fast on my steam train(in comparison)as a GP rider.It's good to learn new things anyway,and to be honest that is part of the reason i joined this forum.
I agree with you that Super bikes mostly have tighter and more enjoyable races.
As i don't think the GPteams/factories would want to use control ECU (as JB said would only work if all engines were of the same configuration,like in F1).And the manufacturers still don't want to stop that developement anyway.Maybe control tires is the only option to create that imbalance Superbike has with tires as the clear weak point.
If Moto GP kept TC and changed into twin or maximum three cylinder 1200 then it could be more of a spectacle maybe
Look at SBK. The championship is boring as hell, it's in Bailiss pocket for a while now but most races are a thrill to watch. Without good enough tire technology to cope with the heavier bikes with more torque and less TC. A couple of seconds distance more often than not are driven in and the whole race has a dynamic to it that looks a liot like the 990 days. In motoGP today a two seconds lead is as good as 15 sec used to be. That's boring.
Sorry about the late reply.
That is what i meant,some riders use it more some less and most of them use it as a safety thing during a race,but they all use it.
I didn't know they didn't use TC with Q tires,i thought they only used different mapping using a lot more fuel to get the best output and maybe different engine brake settings plus ofcourse chassi settings.
I'm just a regular Joe reading as much as i can about racing wishing i was as fast on my steam train(in comparison)as a GP rider.It's good to learn new things anyway,and to be honest that is part of the reason i joined this forum.
I agree with you that Super bikes mostly have tighter and more enjoyable races.
As i don't think the GPteams/factories would want to use control ECU (as JB said would only work if all engines were of the same configuration,like in F1).And the manufacturers still don't want to stop that developement anyway.Maybe control tires is the only option to create that imbalance Superbike has with tires as the clear weak point.
If Moto GP kept TC and changed into twin or maximum three cylinder 1200 then it could be more of a spectacle maybe
