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And you seem to miss my point that most sporting competitions including gp bike racing have rules. It is the fact that you and others of your ilk (and Valentino himself for that matter ) apparently think different rules apply if Valentino is involved that is the crux of this thread, and the point which the original poster, a noted Rossi admirer, made in that original post; I actually agree with him that it applies to MM in general as well, but not in the recent controversial races in which MM broke no rules.
Trying to be diplomatic. The corner was to the right and Rossi went to the left.
The point has been made more eloquently than I can apparently.
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This might apply to me as a track day chump. But Rossi is the GOAT not a chump. Surely he can handle the pressure. Anyway he says he could have gone faster. Sounds like coulda woulda shoulda. Why didn't Rossi just win the race at Sepang? Very simple question. He says he had the pace to be with Pedro. So why was he back in 4th playing with mm? Answer that was HIS pace. 4th place. Not very GOAT like.
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Jesus Steve, you really won't let it go will you?!
So which was it...was he not trying to eliminate a competitor, or was he in panic mode?
Don't forget Aragon...
Is GTFO all you can say? You sound like a 10 year old inner city girl...
You aren't allowed to 'race' on track days, so that's a moot point. Jus sayin'
So which was it...was he not trying to eliminate a competitor, or was he in panic mode?
Don't forget Aragon...
Is GTFO all you can say? You sound like a 10 year old inner city girl...
You aren't allowed to 'race' on track days, so that's a moot point. Jus sayin'
Naah... He's a grumpy old man, that's why he got the ..... and kicked the impertinent little upstart off his bike. Rossi is the new Biaggi.
GTFO! :spin:
Cheers. I was more referring to the almost impossible interpretation of J4rn0's statement.
I don't think MM should have been punished at Sepang, BTW.
I don't think he broke any rules. He should not have been punished.
He was riding like a ...., but there's no rule against that.
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And Rossi was riding like a..... ?
(someone complete this sentence. Any battle has two participants. Was Dani riding like a .... at Aragon?)
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Racing cleanly for position is riding like a ..... I've read this several times. So then, from here on out, any racing between competitors where clean passes are made will be riders riding like dicks. Unless you're prepared to admit what the rest of us already know, and that is that if Rossi is raced hard then that automatically categorizes the rival a .....
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NO, you are way off the mark (intentionally it seems). Racing like a .... has nothing to do with passing cleanly.
It has to do with allowing yourself to be overtaken again after passing. Then you pass again, "cleanly" of course, and so on, inevitably slowing down your chosen target.
Of course one has to be a bit faster to apply this tactic, and that is the real ..... in Rossi's argument: had he been faster than MM, no way he could ever have interfered with him as he did at Sepang, and allegedly elsewhere. That's the real point that could be used against Rossi.
Rossi knows very well these racing tricks, he applied them himself when he was faster than others, "playing" along at his will and then taking off in the last two laps to win. That's probably why he recognizes them now.
In all this we can say that Marquez is really "the new Rossi"... And the old one doesn't like it. :furious:
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Well homie, the premise of your argument has been repeatedly debunked. Rossi was in fact not slowed down. Fact, get it through your yellow skull. Given he crashed out his rival, we won't ever know what Marc's pace would have been without Rossi trying to aggressively overtake him, disturbing Marc; but we do know what Rossi's pace was free from Marquez, newsflash: it was .... all different. Just like in Valencia, had Rossi started from pole at Sepang, he wasn't going to beat Pedrosa nor Lorenzo because he was too slow. Face it.
Rossi took out his frustrations on innocent Marquez because of his sleep deprived chickenshit mental breakdown paranoia. Anyone who buys into that absolute ........ is weak minded, apart from loss of reality. If Rossi were to sell you beach property in Kansas, you and your ilk would sign up. But it's a mirage you've convinced yourself is real.
Rossi took out his frustrations on innocent Marquez because of his sleep deprived chickenshit mental breakdown paranoia. Anyone who buys into that absolute ........ is weak minded, apart from loss of reality. If Rossi were to sell you beach property in Kansas, you and your ilk would sign up. But it's a mirage you've convinced yourself is real.
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You've just killed your point about Marquez contributing to the situation and should have been punished/sanctioned for what he did. You have stated Rossi applied these tactics himself and he was never admonished by race direction for it, so why are you arguing that others should be for doing exactly the same as Rossi has done. The other riders didn't whinge an moan to the media when Rossi did it either.
It's these double standards which apply to Rossi which really get my GOAT.
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"Racing for position" (in the real world) means passing as many riders as possible in order to get the best position for the most points. That Marquez continually passed Rossi and then, instead of taking off to hunt down Lorenzo.... let himself be overtaken just to rinse and repeat, is not "racing for position". It's being a ..... What with all the MM apologists promoting multiple implausible double-speak rationalizations why they claim to believe MM was not capable of passing Rossi and moving to the front, I have to double check to make sure I'm not watching Fox News.
No matter how much everybody dislikes Rossi - it doesn't excuse Marquez's unprofessional, immature behavior. Marquez is no martyr. Both were ......... It's not a case of either / or.
No matter how much everybody dislikes Rossi - it doesn't excuse Marquez's unprofessional, immature behavior. Marquez is no martyr. Both were ......... It's not a case of either / or.
Why wasn't Rossi ever accused of being a .... when he would harass others by hanging back in the field for 90% of the race before gapping them over the last 3 laps. He may not have been constantly passing them, but sitting inches of there back wheel & constantly showing them a wheel in the braking zone was interfering with their race and rhythm, just like Marquez did to him. Just desserts mustn't be quite so sweet on the receiving end me thinks.
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