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moto vudu · Jan 24, 2016

michaelm said:
Again you avoid the question and make motherhood statements, but for my interest when prior to the late season controversy when it became part of the narrative from Rossi and his apologists as to why MM had animus against Rossi did MM make any accusations about Rossi, particularly at an official press conference?

MM's accusations were in Parc ferme and post race conference at Assen. After the clash in Argentina he didn't outright accuse Rossi in the media, he stated there's nothing for him to learn from the incident because it wasn't his "mistake".

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michaelm · Jan 24, 2016

moto vudu said:
MM's accusations were in Parc ferme and post race conference at Assen. After the clash in Argentina he didn't outright accuse Rossi in the media, he stated there's nothing for him to learn from the incident because it wasn't his "mistake".

MotoGP?

So you admit he made no public accusations about Argentina. In regard to Assen, an incident which actually occurred, he disagreed with RD's decision (a correct decision imo) which involved no penalty for either rider, and was based on Rossi leaving the track which would normally be illegal being counterbalanced by him needing to do so to avoid more severe contact; rather different than accusing someone of race fixing in a race he actually won based on absolutely no evidence.

moto vudu · Jan 24, 2016

michaelm said:
So you admit he made no public accusations about Argentina. In regard to Assen, an incident which actually occurred, he disagreed with RD's decision (a correct decision imo) which involved no penalty for either rider, and was based on Rossi leaving the track which would normally be illegal being counterbalanced by him needing to do so to avoid more severe contact; rather different than accusing someone of race fixing in a race he actually won based on absolutely no evidence.

Right, Rossi was the one who went public with his accusations. His public accusation didn't help him any, but he can't take anything back now even if he wanted.

michaelm · Jan 24, 2016

moto vudu said:
Right, Rossi was the one who went public with his accusations. His public accusation didn't help him any, but he can't take anything back now even if he wanted.

Can't disagree with that.

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I'm done with this. People are going to see what they want to see, roll on Qatar.

Dr No · Jan 25, 2016

povol said:
Never ever wish for any rider to get injured, but it's ok to wish for Dnf's or other poorer than usual finish's. Me personally, I would rather see him finish 5-6 on a regular basis so the bops wouldn't have an excuse.

Exactly this.
Flag drops. ........ stops.

Goatboy · Feb 4, 2016

This forum really is the worst of the worst isn't it.

michaelm · Feb 4, 2016

Goatboy said:
This forum really is the worst of the worst isn't it.

If you are a Rossi fan, yes.

yamaka46 · Feb 10, 2016

michaelm said:
If you are a Rossi fan, yes.

Bit harsh, Mike. Goatboy and I have never been intentional Rossi apologists. Just saying it as we see it like all the Stoner fans did from '07 onwards.

This forum is very anti Rossi at the moment and I find that somewhat off putting. Not all of us are yellow fools, FFS.

I'm all for a good discussion and appreciate that Rossi did put his tail feathers well and truly in the fire last year.

Hopefully a new year of good racing will sort it all out.

michaelm · Feb 10, 2016

yamaka46 said:
Bit harsh, Mike. Goatboy and I have never been intentional Rossi apologists. Just saying it as we see it like all the Stoner fans did from '07 onwards.

This forum is very anti Rossi at the moment and I find that somewhat off putting. Not all of us are yellow fools, FFS.

I'm all for a good discussion and appreciate that Rossi did put his tail feathers well and truly in the fire last year.

Hopefully a new year of good racing will sort it all out.

Certainly not aimed at you, nor intended to be particularly barbed, more an acknowledgement of fact.

Attitudes to the events of late season 2015 have hardened and I doubt any one is going to change their mind now as Kropotkin says, but while VR continues to run his narrative about events I will continue to disagree with that narrative; I took it that Goatboy was more in agreement with Valentino's version of events.

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