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Actually he does deserve to be put down by another. There is not another rider/driver in any other motor sport that has been gifted so many special treatment to win. Dorna & Vito Ippolito are riding high on the money train BS started a Sepang 2015. Vito Ippolito has permanently blocked HRC from releasing the the data from that race. Two good reasons for that: #1 will expose the truth that rossi did kick Marc's bike. #2 the viewership ratings will fall once the truth is exposed, "see reason #1 which leads back to reason #2".

FIM President Vito Ippolito has announced that data from Marc Marquez's Honda during the infamous Sepang MotoGP clash with Valentino Rossi will not be released.

Read more at MotoGP News - MotoGP: Honda, FIM won?t release Rossi-Marquez clash data






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Honda has the proof that Rossi is a "liar", has the proof to save their appeal and the appeal of their sponsors, not to mention to save their present and future rider from media lynching, yet what they do?

They hide it to save the circus from further debates..lmao. The stupidest thing I've ever heard and few people are buying it..ahahahhaha

I love you Livio Suppo.
first we will show you the datas
then we won't show you the datas
but wait we want to show you the datas just give us some time to prepare them, actually no, we gave the datas to FIM. You will never see the datas

You guys are so funny. I bet you believe in flying donkeys too.
 
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I don't want to see Rossi get knocked down. Rossi doesn't even bother me that much despite the fact that I'm not a Rossi fan. Here's a guy that's been in and around motorcycle paddocks since he was in diapers (probably). He got famous when he was a teenager, partly for being a winner and partly for being energetic and lovable. Basically he was the Justin Bieber of motorcycle racing. Now he's grown up, approaching middle-aged, and he has so much fame, power, money, etc. that it is hard to imagine that he wouldn't trash-talk the way he does or try to run other riders off the racing line.

What gets me are the people who call him a god and give him the benefit of every doubt. He loses, and the other guys have better machines. He wins, and he overcame tall odds. He crashes, and it was a problem with the tires. Another guy crashes and he lost his nerve. It's unreal how many people kiss this guy's .... What would it take for people to look at Rossi objectively? It's hard to imagine any situation where a person wearing a yellow t-shirt and a VR46 hat might say, "You know, Rossi went a little too far on that one. I think he should tone it down."
 
it amazes me how almost every thread takes a weird turn, this was simply just about a previous news which i remember vividly and it was discussed whether its just a business tactic by the company or did Rossi actually had something to do with this, and it was kinda finished and dropped, hence THE THREAD's NAME.

its ok if you dont like the guy or whatever but sometimes you guys go to great(weird) length which looks kinda obsessive,
 
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What gets me are the people who call him a god and give him the benefit of every doubt. He loses, and the other guys have better machines. He wins, and he overcame tall odds. He crashes, and it was a problem with the tires. Another guy crashes and he lost his nerve. It's unreal how many people kiss this guy's .... What would it take for people to look at Rossi objectively? It's hard to imagine any situation where a person wearing a yellow t-shirt and a VR46 hat might say, "You know, Rossi went a little too far on that one. I think he should tone it down."



Some are and some have done so, some here and some elsewhere and sadly, some have been pilloried for it by team Yellow but also by team others.

The big difference (to me) is that there are bike racing fans of Rossi who love bikes and fell into support Rossi for all the excitement and enthusiasm he offered years ago. Yes they may 'allow' him leeway just as fans of a rider allow that rider leeway, but they will also criticise when they feel justified or they may not defend.

Then there are the cultists, and it is this categorisation whereby it seems of lat all have been placed which is unfair.

The cultists worship Rossi, he can do no wrong in their eyes and the world is against them. They are superior in every way and VR is never beaten fairly but always by foul means. These are the ones for whom Rossi is the sport and whom are the ones that fall into the 'dangerous' set as they are the abusive ones, those that cannot accept criticisms of their chosen overlord. It is these 'fans' that are the ones that will one day realise that they have devoted 15 years of their lives to supporting a personality and when that personality no longer has the medium available, they will have a hollow feeling wondering what or how that happened that they are now 40 years ol and still living in their mothers yellow infested basement.

The bike racing fans will stay, the cultists will worship their model bikes, look at their replica helmets, grab a box of tissues and some 'assistance' and retire to the toilet dreaming of days gone by.

Meantime, MotoGP has moved on, the bike fans that supported Rossi have stayed and moved to other riders, and the discussions continue in a somewhat more civilised manner until the next 'Jim Jones' comes along.



That all said, I do not want Rossi to fall on anything but his own sword, as he did somewhat throughout 2011/2012 when he realised that he had made a mistake by assuming in 2010 that one rider was not pushing as hard as he should be to make a bike competitive.


I should also add that all of these riders have these obsessive fan bases, but most have a much smaller base and as such we do not see or here the mindless, but with VR being so popular throughout the world there are just more mindless from which to hear
 
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That all said, I do not want Rossi to fall on anything but his own sword, as he did somewhat throughout 2011/2012 when he realised that he had made a mistake by assuming in 2010 that one rider was not pushing as hard as he should be to make a bike competitive.



Gaz, this is exactly what I want to see. The likes of Maverick Viñales, Andrea Iannone, Aleix Espargaro, Pol Espargaro, Cal Crutchlow & Bradley Smith finishing ahead of him all season long will be justice enough for me. A crash or two with injury would just be added bonus trying to keep up with Marc, Jorge & Dani.
 
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Gaz, this is exactly what I want to see. The likes of Maverick Viñales, Andrea Iannone, Aleix Espargaro, Pol Espargaro, Cal Crutchlow & Bradley Smith finishing ahead of him all season long will be justice enough for me. A crash or two with injury would just be added bonus trying to keep up with Marc, Jorge & Dani.

dude you are sick :cold:
 
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Gaz, this is exactly what I want to see. The likes of Maverick Viñales, Andrea Iannone, Aleix Espargaro, Pol Espargaro, Cal Crutchlow & Bradley Smith finishing ahead of him all season long will be justice enough for me. A crash or two with injury would just be added bonus trying to keep up with Marc, Jorge & Dani.[/QUOTE]


Why injury?

Why crash?

To me, being beaten when all finish a race would be far more humbling than crashing out whilst in front of riders considered lesser, besides which, I personally do not like to see any rider crash.

If VR is beaten by Vinales, Smith, Crutchlow, Miller and all those not deemed worthy of sharing the race track with him (the deeming being done by cultists), then surely that is more humbling.
 
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Honda has the proof that Rossi is a "liar", has the proof to save their appeal and the appeal of their sponsors, not to mention to save their present and future rider from media lynching, yet what they do?

They hide it to save the circus from further debates..lmao. The stupidest thing I've ever heard and few people are buying it..ahahahhaha

I love you Livio Suppo.
first we will show you the datas
then we won't show you the datas
but wait we want to show you the datas just give us some time to prepare them, actually no, we gave the datas to FIM. You will never see the datas

You guys are so funny. I bet you believe in flying donkeys too.

Dorna/FIM wouldn't allow them to show the data then, and won't allow them to show the data now or in the future. What part of that don't you understand, flying donkey?

Rossi looked twice to see where MM was, slowed his bike down and drastically changed his line over to where MM was, on a normal racing line to make
the corner, his alternative line being off the track. If it was a normal racing move, which RD didn't consider it to be, then cite some examples of other riders doing a similar thing.
 
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Gaz, this is exactly what I want to see. The likes of Maverick Viñales, Andrea Iannone, Aleix Espargaro, Pol Espargaro, Cal Crutchlow & Bradley Smith finishing ahead of him all season long will be justice enough for me. A crash or two with injury would just be added bonus trying to keep up with Marc, Jorge & Dani.

I don't wish a crash on any rider, the results are always unpredictable, and Rossi has been crashed out of races on a number of occasions through the error of others, including twice by Bautista in 2013 iirc.

Unless something very odd happens, perhaps with the michelins, he won't beat MM or Lorenzo in the 2016 season at age 37 though.
 
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it amazes me how almost every thread takes a weird turn, this was simply just about a previous news which i remember vividly and it was discussed whether its just a business tactic by the company or did Rossi actually had something to do with this, and it was kinda finished and dropped, hence THE THREAD's NAME.

its ok if you dont like the guy or whatever but sometimes you guys go to great(weird) length which looks kinda obsessive,

Someone posting Rossi's recent comments, about the end of season events and MM, is the weird/great length, rather a counterpoint to anyone claiming it is a only a few obsessives on this one forum keeping the controversy going.
 
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Actually he does deserve to be put down by another. There is not another rider/driver in any other motor sport that has been gifted so many special treatment to win. Dorna & Vito Ippolito are riding high on the money train BS started a Sepang 2015. Vito Ippolito has permanently blocked HRC from releasing the the data from that race. Two good reasons for that: #1 will expose the truth that rossi did kick Marc's bike. #2 the viewership ratings will fall once the truth is exposed, "see reason #1 which leads back to reason #2".

FIM President Vito Ippolito has announced that data from Marc Marquez's Honda during the infamous Sepang MotoGP clash with Valentino Rossi will not be released.

Read more at MotoGP News - MotoGP: Honda, FIM won?t release Rossi-Marquez clash data






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Yes.

He's an utter piece of ...., that has done more to destroy grand prix motorcycle racing than to help it.

He gave rise to a fanbase that believes the entire history of grand prix motorcycle racing began in 2000, and only exists because he rides in the world championship.

His entire fanbase takes their cues from him.

The media takes their cues from him.

Former riders take their cues from him.

In fact what you have is a prime example of how ....... mindless and stupid people are, that they believe the .... that Rossi spews out of his mouth. Jums post highlights what exactly is so wrong with the entire situation, with the way people just RUSHED to defend Rossi based on nothing more than his insane claims.

Rossi fans just blather on away about, "DURRRRRRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRRRRR WHAT A COMPETITOR, WHAT FIGHTING SPIRIT DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!"

Like I said, being a Rossi fan is symptomatic of mental deficiency and a disease that one can so allow themselves to be wrapped up by his ........ and believe he's a great person because he acknowledges the fans more than anyone else does.

The fans see nothing wrong with him having an altogether different set of rules that he competes by, and then believe the championship is being truly conducted under the guise of fair play. They consider it a sign of his drive when he is busy making contact with other riders. Then they cry when anyone dares to race him back. They cried because Stoner was better and exposed Rossi for the fraud he was.

They think Rossi should be entitled and advantaged even when it ruins the entire championship, but god forbid anyone else challenge him, then it's suddenly deemed not fair. Every Rossi fan thought MM got "what he deserved" at Sepang because of Rossi's lunatic claims about Phillip Island.

.... him. .... him up the ....

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The best way I can contribute to this discussion is to quote Marcus Aurelius: "The best revenge is not to do as they do."
(VI.6)
or:
"Leave the wrong with the person who did it."
(VII.29)

Don't leave these .......s with a leg to stand on.
 
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I'm a Rossi fan but not die-hard in the sense that I sit around trash talking other players. Honestly the ones that time the time and effort to write multiple paragraphs dishing Rossi I find just as sad as the overzealous/overreactive fans of Rossi. Sometimes people just need to calm down
 
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I'm not so sure about that.



I am kind of in agreement ............... don't ask me why but I suspect that he will be right at home on the Michelins as no matter what we want to see, hear or read, he has been through a lot of changes over the years and only one could really be described as failing.
 
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I am kind of in agreement ............... don't ask me why but I suspect that he will be right at home on the Michelins as no matter what we want to see, hear or read, he has been through a lot of changes over the years and only one could really be described as failing.

As I said, something very odd could happen with the michelins, and I certainly could see them not suiting Lorenzo who seems to have fairly specific tyre requirements, but less so MM who has been fairly adaptable, and says he has learned and showed some evidence of having learned late season 2015 that he can't go for the win in every race no matter what.

I can't see the tyre suiting Rossi but not Pedrosa though, and Pedrosa finally seemed fairly healthy at the end of 2015, which on his past record is no guarantee of him remaining so of course.
 
dude you are sick :cold:

Gaz, this is exactly what I want to see. The likes of Maverick Viñales, Andrea Iannone, Aleix Espargaro, Pol Espargaro, Cal Crutchlow & Bradley Smith finishing ahead of him all season long will be justice enough for me. A crash or two with injury would just be added bonus trying to keep up with Marc, Jorge & Dani.[/QUOTE]


Why injury?

Why crash?

To me, being beaten when all finish a race would be far more humbling than crashing out whilst in front of riders considered lesser, besides which, I personally do not like to see any rider crash.

If VR is beaten by Vinales, Smith, Crutchlow, Miller and all those not deemed worthy of sharing the race track with him (the deeming being done by cultists), then surely that is more humbling.

I don't wish a crash on any rider, the results are always unpredictable, and Rossi has been crashed out of races on a number of occasions through the error of others, including twice by Bautista in 2013 iirc.

Unless something very odd happens, perhaps with the michelins, he won't beat MM or Lorenzo in the 2016 season at age 37 though.



Let me clarify. I'm not wishing for him to crash & be injured. I'm saying if he does crash & suffer injury chasing the top 3. My view, if that happens would be a bonus along with losing to the riders I mention. I would rather see him finish every race below 5th position. Because humble pie is best served cold!

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Meh...I'm going to say this, and frankly I don't give a .....

I hope someone puts Rossi down on the pavement.

He deserves every last bit of it to see what it is like to get punted from a moving motorcycle by another rider.

To paraphrase the good Doctor
 

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