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The old boy has them worried.

Cool Blue said:
After blatantly using the media for gamesmanship, his team mate had just committed the most despicable act of cheating in the history of the sport and was allowed to finish one place behind him.

George saw the video of the kick and was incensed. Then he had a few word to say about it at the presser. Up to that point, all of the despicable behavior was done by Rossi. It's like the tension was palpable. And then George put his position and bam! Rossi is forgiven and JL is the biggest arsehole in the world.

Give us a ....... break.


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How about giving me a ....... break? Read my posts properly and you will find that I am pointing out something entirely different than what you're ranting about.
 
Daniboy said:
How about giving me a ....... break? Read my posts properly and you will find that I am pointing out something entirely different than what you're ranting about.
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No, fair play to you DB, but you're suggesting that, in making those comments, George "contributed to the bad atmosphere". I'm saying that, if that was the case, then it's ridiculous.


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You can debate all you want but the facts are Rossi created the mess of 2015 by exploding at Sepang in press conference.

Marc raced him hard but fair, Rossi lost his rag, ran him wide and kicked him off.

Lorenzo was mad at rossi for been a cheat. Like anyone would be who is genuine sportsman

Rossi and all his fans spat their dummy out. He Winged at Dorna and Jarvis. Jarvis bottled it and then cancelled the party because he was to .... scared on the consequences

Just face it DB your wrong, but you won't, cos your a bopper. 2015 is done get over it. Rossi lost
 
Daniboy said:
What on earth are you on about?
I didn't make or intend any excuse nor gave any indication that I thought any behaviour was acceptable. I, as per what you quoted , simply offered up the reasoning behind Yamaha managements decision not to celebrate the title win. Which is not defending any side whatsoever. Michael, you are so dominated by your need for 'the shootdown' that you cannot see the wood for the trees at times.
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Excuses as always for Rossi who alleged conspiracy and took out another rider, but somehow Jorge Lorenzo who raced fairly on track, won the title, accused no other riders of conspiracy and has never devalued a title won by a rider other than him as far as I am aware contributed equally to the bad atmosphere at Yamaha? Which part of your post or posts did I misconstrue?

What should Lorenzo have done, accepted that a 10th title is Rossi's destiny and put aside any petty desire for a 5th title he might have had himself?

My whole issue with you since you joined is that you seem to somehow think mealy mouthed statements that Rossi was over the top late last season give you brownie points, and that this gives you the liberty to then ignore those events. If Rossi hadn't made those statements at the Sepang press conference then taken out MM in the race then sure Jorge would have been out of order. Such is not the reality we inhabit however, whatever sophistry you may care to employ about Rossi not directly criticising Lorenzo.

I have said all along what Jorge said was not politic, but that doesn't make him in the wrong or give Rossi and Jarvis the superior moral position.
 
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Another pointless essay, never mind, your time and all that. Anyway I'm bopping home and cracking a cold bud bop bop bop.....
 
Daniboy said:
Another pointless essay, never mind, your time and all that. Anyway I'm bopping home and cracking a cold bud bop bop bop.....
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Don't drink too much, we don't want another "they're picking on me and trying to drive me from the forum" thread from you... [emoji24][emoji24]
 
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yamfan said:
Don't drink too much, we don't want another "they're picking on me and trying to drive me from the forum" thread from you... [emoji24][emoji24]
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No but I might start a thread about being accused of defending the indefensible when on further examination it is blatantly obviously not so, where did these people learn to read??? :eek: booooooom !!!
 
Daniboy said:
No but I might start a thread about being accused of defending the indefensible when on further examination it is blatantly obviously not so, where did these people learn to read??? :eek: booooooom !!!
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The same place many people learnt to think :p
 
Gaz said:
Well they do say that the best place ti think is the dunny.

Take a magazine and you can solve all of the world's problems in the one small, quiet room
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Gotta say smartphones have made the loo a whole lot tidier :spin:
 
Daniboy said:
Gotta say smartphones have made the loo a whole lot tidier :spin:
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Well I don't own a smartphone as all I do is take phone calls and couldn't be bothered wasting money for functions I will not use so magazines it remains

Although (kid not), was at a mates house a few years back and he had a tv in the dunny ............ and he admitted it was his idea to keep up with sports etc
 
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Daniboy said:
Another pointless essay, never mind, your time and all that. Anyway I'm bopping home and cracking a cold bud bop bop bop.....
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Defending Rossi is bad enough, but drinking Budweiser?

To directly quote you "I am not overlooking it and I don't think it was right either". Despite saying this you do overlook it and choose to ignore it in every other post on this thread (and pretty much any other thread), in particular the earlier post in this thread where you allocate blame for the atmosphere at Yamaha, and for "trash talk", to Rossi and JL 50/50.

This attitude is what has led the posters whom you oppose on here to their current stance, after numerous similar occurrences involving Rossi after which he himself, and those of your allegiance, attempt to spin him being somehow the victim rather than the perpetrator.
 
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If you look back there were comments from Lorenzo on Rossi and comments from Rossi on Marquez, the comments Yamaha took exception to were the ones directed at a current teammate.
I'm not interested in arguing who is right or wrong , just stating the reason why party time was cancelled.
 
Cool Blue said:
And you know this for a fact?


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I am sure DB is correct that Yamaha took exception to what Lorenzo said, entirely reasonable imo and yours though his remarks may have been, it was pretty widely reported at the time. I disagree that this was a justification, or even the motive, for the cancellation of the celebration however, a peripheral point anyway, the only points DB can make. Hardly surprising, and rather convenient, that a Rossi fan doesn't care what is right or wrong as well.

I am on the threshold in the interests of karma for Rossi, Jarvis and Yamaha of becoming an MM fan, something I would never have thought possible even I year ago after the 2015 Assen race. If Jorge doesn't win another race after joining Ducati and then retires he will retire as an honourable man imo.

I hope Reiterberger is OK after that massive highside in the WSBK race, btw.
 
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Daniboy said:
If you look back there were comments from Lorenzo on Rossi and comments from Rossi on Marquez, the comments Yamaha took exception to were the ones directed at a current teammate.
I'm not interested in arguing who is right or wrong , just stating the reason why party time was cancelled.
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So what was the reason then?
 
Daniboy said:
If you look back there were comments from Lorenzo on Rossi and comments from Rossi on Marquez, the comments Yamaha took exception to were the ones directed at a current teammate.
I'm not interested in arguing who is right or wrong , just stating the reason why party time was cancelled.
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Ok I'll ask it another way? If Lorenzos comments are the reason, which I think is complete bs by the way, why did Yamaha celebrate in 2010.

In 2010 at Motegi he nearly knocked his teammate off and dismissed it as just racing as he was no where in the championship.

Mmmm I smell a hypocrite just like some of his fans
 
In 2010 at motegi Lorenzo chose to race Rossi instead of playing it safe as he had a near impregnable lead in the championship and didn't need extra points. And there was no hubris like in 2015.
 

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