The future of Dani

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 1 2009, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dani has talent for sure but i dont thing he is tough enough. Lorenzo is a similar size to dani but he is so much harder. just my personal opinion.

Agreed. I just don't think Dani has got the physical stature to tough it out over 18 races. There's no doubting his talent

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 1 2009, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dani has talent for sure but i dont thing he is tough enough. Lorenzo is a similar size to dani but he is so much harder. just my personal opinion.

The bold is the only part where you're wrong. We need rider weight minimums.

Jorge Lorenzo
Weight: 65Kg
Height: 172cm

Dani Pedrosa
Weight: 51Kg
Height: 160cm

Dani keeps getting hurt because, he's so small and fragile. Even Elias, who has crash alot this season, has 6kg and 3cm on Dani.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Jun 1 2009, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The bold is the only part where you're wrong. We need rider weight minimums.

Jorge Lorenzo
Weight: 65Kg
Height: 172cm

Dani Pedrosa
Weight: 51Kg
Height: 160cm

Dani keeps getting hurt because, he's so small and fragile. Even Elias, who has crash alot this season, has 6kg and 3cm on Dani.
compared to me mate there a similar size . i now dani is smaller but when i met lorenzo i was surprised how small he was.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Jun 1 2009, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The bold is the only part where you're wrong. We need rider weight minimums.

Jorge Lorenzo
Weight: 65Kg
Height: 172cm

Dani Pedrosa
Weight: 51Kg
Height: 160cm

I hear that ever since INTERPOL started cracking down on Arabs buying up
little Bangladeshi boys - the demand for camel jockeys has skyrocketed.
I hear the weather in Bahrain is pretty nice round about this time of the year.

These are the heights in motogp.com

Pedrosa 160
Dovizioso 168
Edwards 179
Vermeulen 177
Capirossi 165
De Puniet 169
De Angelis 178
Elias 163
Stoner 171
Melandri 166
Kallio 165
Rossi 182
Gibernau 177
Hayden 173
Takahashi 163
Lorenzo 172

There was no data about Canepa and Toseland

The average is 170.5 cm, so that means Lorenzo is bigger than the average MotoGP rider.

Sadly most GP riders are smaller than average sized women.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jun 2 2009, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>1st Don't let your hatred for Dani blind you, what you wrote there is FALSE. A lie. Dani despite no pre season testing has beaten Dovi comfortably, and leads him in the championship standings. Since he set a foot on MotoGP he's always been the quickest Honda rider by far.

2nd he has NOTHING to prove to Honda, as HRC chiefs have admited if anyone is to blame for not winning a championship it's themselves (and Michelin).

You're deluded if you think Dani would go to a non factory team considering he is in the worst case scenario the 4th best rider in the grid.

Yeah Repsol is a Spanish company, that said, they have no power to chose a rider, in 2004 when Gibernau looked like the only one that could challenge Rossi, Repsol publicly demanded HRC to tak Sete, Honda said sponsors wouldn't take decisions in their team and proceeded to leave Sete out of Repsol Honda. So that spot is not restricted to Spaniards.

In the UNREALISTIC case Dani was fired from HRC . That would only be to sign a better (as in less fragile) rider. Now the question is why would any of top 3 leave their current bike for a worse one??

Stoner has a team that's devoted to him and a bike that suits his style perfectly. Lorenzo and Rossi have the best bike, they've had it for 2 seasons jumping to Honda seems not a good idea if you're looking for performance.

If any, I think it would be Rossi, he's got the skills and the crew to develop a bike, he's towards the end of his career, and he still owes a lot to the Italian tax agency so IMO he would be the one most tempted to accept a big $$$ offer from Honda.


Okay, I don't like Dani that much, actually I don't mind Dani but the Puig thing and the politics that attracts to the Repsol Honda team annoys me.

I still don't buy it that Honda are happy coming 4th at present, with the cream of the crop riding other people’s bikes.

In rather parsimonious terms I believe Honda will want to correct that situation, and perhaps trim a highly paid rider who didn't deliver as promised.

Or will they go into year 4, then 5 and so on backing Dani, who doesn’t appear to have what it takes to overcome the top 3, relegating their brand and team to the best of the midfielders?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 1 2009, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo is a similar size to dani but he is so much harder.

Oh really Roger?
Please....tell us more

pedro will stay where he is now... americans will cry... im so sorry for them coz of that.

Dani won't be going anywhere. He had very little time on the bike for winter tests and showed up to the opening rounds with people wondering if he could actually ride. He's been brilliant this season considering the injuries and lost time testing. At the end of last season I was thinking this was it for Pedrosa at Repsol Honda but considering the string of bad luck he's had this season and the results he's shown when he's physically been able to ride, there's no way Honda dump him after Valencia. There isn't a doubt in my mind that Pedrosa will be riding a Repsol Honda in 2010.

Someone mentioned MM replacing Pedrosa for 2010. It won't happen but I wouldn't be surprised if Melandri replaces Elias on the factory spec 212V in the Gresini garage. Even after the messy divorce they had in 2007.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Willski @ Jun 1 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agreed. I just don't think Dani has got the physical stature to tough it out over 18 races. There's no doubting his talent
I agree with this too; dani is certainly starting to look too fragile for motogp. I think he has great talent, and is probably throwing the bike down so much because he has to push too hard on an inferior bike, particularly since his contract would appear to be under threat this year. There is no denying his courage either; he has often ridden with injury this year and in the past, and doesn't seem to complain or make excuses about it.

Perhaps he should sack honda rather than the other way round, and get on a better bike. I think he would do very well on a factory yamaha, but not on a ducati, as stoner's method appears to involve fairly severe manhandling of the bike.

I think if Dovi ups the anti and starts producing podiums and the odd win before the silly season is over then Honda could well be looking for a number 2 rider as Dovi could justify being the number one rider.

For a number 2 rider the field is far more open than looking to replace Dani with a number one. A name not mention yet but well worth considering is Kallio. There is no doubt he can ride and I think his personality probably suits Honda's style.

On the Lorenzo side of things. I reckon that 2 years after Rossi leaves MotoGP the Yamaha will be ...... Before Rossi it was ..... and it is only the bike it is today because of the influence Rossi has in terms of getting a team to gather and work to give him what he needs. I think this is Rossi's greatest asset and one that will be missed once he has gone.

If I am correct then Lorenzo may do well to switch to a team that historically has been able to produce the most winning bikes. If I was Lorenzo then at the end of 2010 when the world is emerging out of economic crisis and either Dani or Dovi have failed to produce, I would switch to Honda and ride the wave of probably 3 - 5 years of Honda reign at the top again, whilst collecting a salary that will probably rival Rossi's.

Id like to see him on a Ducati in 2010. Stoner/ Pedro team mates? That would be interesting...
Lorenzo looks really good with bridgestones tyres/ M1 i cant see him moving to Repsol.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ Jun 2 2009, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Id like to see him on a Ducati in 2010. Stoner/ Pedro team mates? That would be interesting...
Lorenzo looks really good with bridgestones tyres/ M1 i cant see him moving to Repsol.
so would i.

dani would not last 1 lap on the duc i reckon.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ Jun 2 2009, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Id like to see him on a Ducati in 2010.

I didn't realise that you disliked Pedro!!??

Cos I can only see Pedro on a Duc. as deadly ...... and not in a fast way.

Can't see it, he's having enough trouble with one of the tamest bikes out there .......

But then again who knows, the Duc. is obviously a funny beast.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 2 2009, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I didn't realise that you disliked Pedro!!??

Cos I can only see Pedro on a Duc. as deadly ...... and not in a fast way.

Can't see it, he's having enough trouble with one of the tamest bikes out there .......

But then again who knows, the Duc. is obviously a funny beast.

I seriously thought Nicki could ride the Duc and it saddened me when he couldn't, I wouldn't give Dani a snowflakes chance in hell on it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Jun 2 2009, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I seriously thought Nicki could ride the Duc and it saddened me when he couldn't, I wouldn't give Dani a snowflakes chance in hell on it.
knowing how the duc seems to work, dani could be the one to tame it!























nah!

all these riders got balls but this guys got no luck in recent times
fresh start dani - honda/pug

02 / 06 / 09
Things are getting worse for the 217mph Spanish Smurf after disastrous Mugello GP

MORE BAD news for Dani Pedrosa and the ongoing, and getting worse, hip problem.

It sounds as though the MotoGP Spanish Smurf is going to have to undergo another operation on the joint after his Mugello off in practice, which caused more tendon damage around the injured area.

His personal manager, Alberto Puig, has told Spanish press that things have deteriorated and there is a good chance that he will need another operation on the area he had already badly injured in the pre-season crash at Jerez.

He said: “Everyone saw the crash. Dani hit the same place that was already in a bad way when he crashed, and we will have to wait to see what the seriousness of the situation is. There is just one more test to do, and I suppose that we will be able to do it. I'm not a doctor, so I couldn't say when he'd return to action or anything like that.

“Dani had this hip problem on Friday, and from then on things got worse. Now we just want to make sure that the pain that he has now is from the original incident, and that the crash didn't cause any more damage.”

As we reported yesterday, Dani's chances of racing in the the Catalunya GP in a fortnight don't look good, do they?

If ever a rider needed, and could benefit from, sitting out for a while its Dani.

I can't see him ever being WC as things are going, but if he sits out and comes back pretty fit, instead of strapping up and going out there pretty injured, he could recover and have a chance again.

If Puig was any type of manager he'd be stopping Dani till he has recovered a lot more.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 2 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I didn't realise that you disliked Pedro!!??

Cos I can only see Pedro on a Duc. as deadly ...... and not in a fast way.

Can't see it, he's having enough trouble with one of the tamest bikes out there .......

But then again who knows, the Duc. is obviously a funny beast.
Deadly or a career buster ! I got a feeling there looking at young Bradley, no proof just a feeling in my water. could be the beer tho