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Stoner threatens to leave MotoGP over rules

.... me its going to be a long winter!!!!



Silly seasons started early this year
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It dosen't need a whole lot of explaining. In the last 12 months this board has gone from a few raving boppers to a few raving boners. Luckily there is a well informed, well spoken (sometimes) group in the middle who aren't necessarily following a deity around like sheep.



I agree, i suppose its just human nature. Frankly, i had hoped to tone down my own cat fights with peeps going forward from Sepang, even edited out and deleted some of my posts, as im probably ....... number 1 around here; but it seems i keep finding peeps to lock horns with.



My view on all the riders has changed a bit, i think they are all worth of praise, yes, that includes Pedro, a guy i use to love to hate. But this idea that nothing they say or do is worthy of some criticism is lame.



Again, yeah, some riders are going to say this or that, but some go beyond a bit and stick feet in mouth. I get these guys want the latestest tech, but that is wholely driven by the rules. Im pretty sure if we had an early rule that banned electronic aids, to suddenly allow them would have been met with similar crying. But to suggest an exit from the sport because of a formula change is arrogant. Notice the new boppers skipped that part of Caseys message. Yes, u can voice ur pleasure or displeasure, but to go overboard and may not want to be part of it, that is leave, should be criticized. Notice the big difference in Spies & Caseys take. Thats where i take issue. Do i want Casey tar & featherred? No. A simple point, it was a lame thing to say, period. I'll keep admiring his riding, and laughing at the fans who become boppers right before my very eyes.
 
If Casey wants to quit, thats on him, and entirely none of your business. You act like you have some fan entitlement that he be present on the grid. Your assuming that those are not his true feelings. If he truely feels he would have no passion for riding dumbed down bikes, who the hell are you to crticize his decision.
 
Good luck with the "debate" mental. Stoner was also against spec tires, so .... him eh. Let's divert every debate to personality.

What i understood from mental the new bobber posts was that at present motogp has $35 million locked up by three riders. Take a guess who. One Italian two Spanish. Now they could take that $35 million and redistribute to run how many more factory bikes? About 8. .... they could even put one more token American and Australian rider in the series. But instead all we hear is how Honda wrecked motogp. Once Honda are gone, what's left. A Spanish man in charge, with Spanish sponsors, spanish riders, and more races in Spain. Oh yeah and more power to Alberto puig. But everything will be ok because stoner the whinging prick will either quit or fail to get a sponsor to back his CRT. Yes I would like to hear from kroppo how replacing a power struggle with a spanish monopoly will improve the series. No need to respond, I'm just a bobber.
 
Jum is all butt hurt because the riders themselves have countered his opinion. I do find it funny that he wants to compare Rossi's threat to quit to Stoners. Rossi threatened to quit to gain competitive advantage, Stoner threatens to quit because of uninspiring machinery. Same thing huh Jum, What a tool! I personally would stand up and cheer if Rossi threatened to quit if the bikes go to Moto SB spec. One thing Stoner doesnt realize is, Dorna probably wishes he would leave, that would be one less obstacle for them to overcome to get the meal ticket back towards the front.



Yeah - we all know why Jumkie is butt hurt
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If Casey wants to quit, thats on him, and entirely none of your business. You act like you have some fan entitlement that he be present on the grid. Your assuming that those are not his true feelings. If he truely feels he would have no passion for riding dumbed down bikes, who the hell are you to crticize his decision.



Who am i? Just another member on the site, just like u. Yet its never kept either of US from criticizing riders when we saw fit, would u agree? I dont know whats worse, a bopper who never knew better or a once soldier against bopperism (as a failure of logic) turned bopper. U just cant stomach any criticism of Stone's comment, eh buddy? Where is the guy that use to jump on a rider who thought they wer above the sport? What has changed in this instance?
 
Let me be the first to point out that the MotoGP season is officially OVER!



Return to your normally scheduled lives and cut the ........! It's going to be a long offseason. Begin preparing mentally for it. Take a break, push back from the computer and get out a bit
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Let me be the first to point out that the MotoGP season is officially OVER!



Return to your normally scheduled lives and cut the ........! It's going to be a long offseason. Begin preparing mentally for it. Take a break, push back from the computer and get out a bit
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Aint that the truth
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Who am i? Just another member on the site, just like u. Yet its never kept either of US from criticizing riders when we saw fit, would u agree? I dont know whats worse, a bopper who never knew better or a once soldier against bopperism (as a failure of logic) turned bopper. U just cant stomach any criticism of Stone's comment, eh buddy? Where is the guy that use to jump on a rider who thought they wer above the sport? What has changed in this instance?



Your constant criticism of everything and everyone in MotoGP (bar the exception of Nicky Hayden) tells me way more about you and your love of the sport than your six page essays ever will.....your unbridled attack on Bautista in which you attributed 100% blame to him at the last race is just another perfect example of what I am talking about. All of a sudden he is crap, dangerous, doesnt deserve a factory ride blah blah blah.



Your allegiances and views change with the wind....but the whining remains constant. You insist MotoGP is boring...I say you are.
 
Let me be the first to point out that the MotoGP season is officially OVER!



Return to your normally scheduled lives and cut the ........! It's going to be a long offseason. Begin preparing mentally for it. Take a break, push back from the computer and get out a bit
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It's raining too much to enjoy my motorcycle, it's Canada, .... is getting cold
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, and I'm still gutted by my local NHL team choking in the playoffs this spring
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. I'd rather discus the why or why not Stoner is an ....... for not putting jam on his toast this morning
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Aint that the truth
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You have no evidence to make such a proclamation. I call you out as a fool, just like bm, your are blinded to the truth. You have no comeback do you, none whatsoever. Get off your heroes ..... and get a grip, on your own ....., for as stoner fans we can happily .......... all offseason long watching replays of the boring processional stoner victories!
 
Your constant criticism of everything and everyone in MotoGP (bar the exception of Nicky Hayden) tells me way more about you and your love of the sport than your six page essays ever will.....your unbridled attack on Bautista in which you attributed 100% blame to him at the last race is just another perfect example of what I am talking about. All of a sudden he is crap, dangerous, doesnt deserve a factory ride blah blah blah.



Your allegiances and views change with the wind....but the whining remains constant. You insist MotoGP is boring...I say you are.



I had been ignoring for the same reason i ignore BM, ur contributions have been .....



Ur a hypocrite dude, lots of the same .... u supposedly criticised before has come to roost on ur doorstep. Ur worse than the old boppers, for all they knew was worship. U on the other hand are a guy who went from arguing their double standards to employing them with less provication. It reminds me of the peeps who first came to this country looking for religious freedom only to start a witch hunt persecution once they wer the top dogs. Ur very similar to them, ur a hypocrite dude, and ur ...... character is on display.
 
Im coining the term today: neo-boppers.



Like the old boppers, except much much worse.
 
Good luck with the "debate" mental. Stoner was also against spec tires, so .... him eh. Let's divert every debate to personality.

What i understood from mental the new bobber posts was that at present motogp has $35 million locked up by three riders. Take a guess who. One Italian two Spanish. Now they could take that $35 million and redistribute to run how many more factory bikes?



Motorcycle racing is struggling b/c it doesn't take care of people. Reducing superstar pay looks like viable plan to increase grid numbers, but spending more money on equipment and less money on people will only exacerbate the problems in GP.
 
Motorcycle racing is struggling b/c it doesn't take care of people. Reducing superstar pay looks like viable plan to increase grid numbers, but spending more money on equipment and less money on people will only exacerbate the problems in GP.



Agreed....these guys earn every penny!



PS: I really like birdmans idea regarding a control fuel with a low octane rating....seems if they want to reduce costs and horsepower this might be an effective way to achieve that goal without compromising the engineering with rev limits etc.



But what the .... would I know?
 
I really think Casey just doesn't think before he speaks, he's gonna regret this 15 years from now when he's a GP legend and people ask him why he thought he was bigger than the sport. Jlo's comments about the CRT bikes were so much better, it shows he understands the situation and cares about what happens to his sport, the place where he was able to rise and become a champion. Casey should leave now and go become a test rider for Honda, I think he would enjoy having a track all to himself to set fast laps on. For a champion he's a poor ambassador and leader for GP.
 
First off. The CRT thing isn't cutting the balls off the sport. It's bringing it back to it's roots.



The first 25 odd years of the is sport was two factory MV's and a whole grid of hopped up privater Norton Manx's and Matchless G50's. Production based machines.

And for the most part the British bikes had no factory support and they relied on the ingenuity of the teams and riders to compete. Not legions of pencil pushers.

I'm talking about the 500cc class for the record.



That is the pedigree of MotoGp.



This series has NEVER been full prototype racing. To think otherwise means either your head is in the sand or you don't read.



No supercharging from day one.



1958 Dustbin fairing made illegal.



1969 Limits on gearbox's (six gears) and cylinders (no more six cylinder 250's)



Just a few examples there.



Rules have been changed over the years to keep development costs down and to keep development somewhat relevant. It's been happening since the beginning and it will always go on.



I don't hear anybody on this board flipping out that teams are not allowed to have a 16 speed gearbox….



Honda left in the late 60's because they were pissed they weren't allowed to outspend everybody to win a championship. And the series survived.



One rider leaving won't kill it either.

Damn, takes a logical, even-tempered Canuck to point out the obvious. There have always been, and always will be caveats to full prototype racing - something peeps here conveniently left out of their "dumbed-down" arguments. BTW Bluegreen, though I'm from the Toronto area I love all of Canada and have spent significant time in the East, Prairies and West, one of my daughters lives in Kelowna... So I say .... the East/West hatred and focus on the U.S. corporate .... of our natural resources which has escalated exponentially since the NAFTA agreement...
 

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