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Stoner threatens to leave MotoGP over rules

Is Stoner saying that he does not want to be a part of a 'Touring Car' version of MotoGP him saying that he does not want to be part of it or is he saying it to threaten Dorna that if he does he will leave and take his fans to another sport in order to get the rules changed for his benefit?



Stoner from all accounts does not play that game. If he says he will leave then he will. If down the track when if he is forced to ride a CRT bike and he stays then you can all point the finger. If he leaves then he is pointing his middle finger at you all with his integrity in tact.
 
Is Stoner saying that he does not want to be a part of a 'Touring Car' version of MotoGP him saying that he does not want to be part of it or is he saying it to threaten Dorna that if he does he will leave and take his fans to another sport in order to get the rules changed for his benefit?



Stoner from all accounts does not play that game. If he says he will leave then he will. If down the track when if he is forced to ride a CRT bike and he stays then you can all point the finger. If he leaves then he is pointing his middle finger at you all with his integrity in tact.

jeeez, your like a demented groupie, you talk like your best buddies with the man. I think you have this perfect image of the man in your head and have fooled yourself into thinking you know him.

If he leaves im sure most of you will go and follow him in what ever he does. You lot worship im like a cult leader.
 
I think the word 'threaten' here is misplaced also. it implies that someone (in this case Stoner) is demanding something, in exchange for something. But of course in this story, no one is demanding anything. Stoner (as well as Spies and Dovi, in an admittedly less brash manner) is simply stating his concerns about the potential future of GP bikes.



Anyway, I don't mean to get up anyone's nose with my comment. I just think this is a non-story made up from cherry-picking a few quotes from a press conference. And for what it's worth, I think CRT bikes are the future, in a good way.



And if you read some of the articles by the spanish/italian journos, the feeling in the paddock about CRT seems to be fairly negative and/or apprehensive right now.
 
Stoner from all accounts does not play that game. If he says he will leave then he will. ...



If he leaves then he is pointing his middle finger at you all with his integrity in tact.



Ah, so he never backpedals? He means what he says and sticks to it, right. Would u like me to quote u his first declaration this year about going to Motegi?
 
Of course Stoner and Spies are going to speak negatively about CRT bikes.



The work for Honda and Yamaha. Both don't want CRTs.
 
#25 post and no soak soak soak ?

where are the boners ?



Stona can see motogp is fooked in fact its CRaP Err CRT
 
First off. The CRT thing isn't cutting the balls off the sport. It's bringing it back to it's roots.



The first 25 odd years of the is sport was two factory MV's and a whole grid of hopped up privater Norton Manx's and Matchless G50's. Production based machines.

And for the most part the British bikes had no factory support and they relied on the ingenuity of the teams and riders to compete. Not legions of pencil pushers.

I'm talking about the 500cc class for the record.



That is the pedigree of MotoGp.



This series has NEVER been full prototype racing. To think otherwise means either your head is in the sand or you don't read.



No supercharging from day one.



1958 Dustbin fairing made illegal.



1969 Limits on gearbox's (six gears) and cylinders (no more six cylinder 250's)



Just a few examples there.



Rules have been changed over the years to keep development costs down and to keep development somewhat relevant. It's been happening since the beginning and it will always go on.



I don't hear anybody on this board flipping out that teams are not allowed to have a 16 speed gearbox….



Honda left in the late 60's because they were pissed they weren't allowed to outspend everybody to win a championship. And the series survived.



One rider leaving won't kill it either.
 
The article is based on the post race press conference that I referred to a day or so after the race. You can see in on MotoGP.com for yourselves. They all commented on the new testing rules which they all believe are unnecessary as well as the CRT. Stoner has made it very clear that once he finishes with bikes he wants to race v8 Supercars. So I guess he is saying he doesn't want to ride 2 wheeled versions of a touring car he will just go and race the real thing. Also unlike I guess a lot of the MotoGP field Stoner does not spend his money on flashy stuff. There are no sports cars (although there is a garage full of free m-BMW's) etc. You can bet he has saved a bucket load and therefore does not need to race soon.



There certainly is a lot of flashy new farm machinery at the farm though
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Threatening to leave the sport? Sounds familiar.... And the cult followers he's recently created who are echoing him smack no different. Maybe Stoner should offer his salary back in hopes that they put that money back into the technology of his bike. Somebody might want to sit down with the young man and take the time to explain the vital marketing equation part of racing. If he feels this strongly about the lack of funds to sustain the technology, then he should be out pedaling Hondas at every dealership. God knows how much he enjoys making marketing appearances. Why does this remind me of the prevalent ignorance/arrogance of the Motegi debacle this year?



Stoner is no doubt in my mind the best rider in the world. I admire the dude on several levels, most of which is his ability to ride a bike beyond even the best on the planet. Notwithstanding, my praise, in the eyes of his cult fans of late, my motives are probably in question. In their eyes, I have probably become a detractor (maybe even a ‘hater’) for some of his more radical fans who can’t stand me pointing out some minor flaws in the young man, yes minor, now move along. Nothing but positive accolade for Stoner is expected of me I suppose. He has so much going for him too, loving supportive parents, a pretty wife, a kid on the way, world champ (on his bday at his home GP no less) and one of the best packages (if not thee best) in the series, and loot to boot. How he finds something to complain about is really beyond the pale. Maybe he should take the advice of some of his fans and leave the sport; after all, it doesn't seem to suit him considering his criticism and lack of enjoyment, right right (....... idiots). When he smiles, it seems to be big news. Despite all his talent, he just doesn't seem cut out to handle the reality of life, that is, that it changes constantly. I mean, I get criticism of the series, but threatening to leave it? Dude, WTF.



When we changed from 990s to 800s, I remember reading how this was going to render the speeds and performance unspectacular. And within a few rounds, the speeds were back up. Burgess even suggested we turn to 600s as the premier class displacement. All this doom and gloom recently from a few members that try to put on the cloak of purism or worried that this is "dumbing down" the series, or who declare this is no longer "prototype" racing (despite arbitrary rules for every formula including the next), or this is simply pseudo engineering of close racing, seems to forget we already have had several formula changes, every time with the doom and gloom birds chirping the end of the world.



I for one hope Stoner is just being the complaining guy in the room we've known him to be and really doesn't leave the sport. Every time he takes the track, especially when he rode for Ducati, I felt we are/were watching something truly special. But if he does decide to leave, he will lose most of the respect sane people have for him, as he will turn his back on the sport and fans because he will have thought he was bigger than it. I’m sure some of his radicalized fans will reply that he is the man for threatening to leave the sport, some of which probably talked massive .... when Rossi attempted to do the same thing. Perhaps its just human nature, I thought Rossi was unique in being the head of a cult, it seems to be turning out, it doesn't matter who the head is, we will always have fans on the outside fringe of insanity who echo the talking point no mater how out of step with reality it may be.



I can see Casey and Ben and any other rider wanting the most exquisite jewelry on the bike in terms of the latest technology, but that doesn't pay for itself. Btw, didn't most of the riders also say they preferred less rider aids? Newsflash, the most "technological" thing is probably the electronics. In what world does this make sense, you claim you don’t want electronics but then poo poo when they aim to get rid of them by increasing the fuel limits. The components will probably stay the same and get better as more money will surely be diverted to the hardware of the bike, where the brain of the rider will manage the machine, not some elaborate and extremely complicated computer because somebody arbitrary decided 21 liters was the rule Jesus would have wanted. About the change of formula in the series, its just change, and people hate change. This is the reality of life that I have to live with and everybody else on the planet. Deal with it and get a grip.



Jumkie is so right as usual.....I mean what a ....... ingrate....doesnt he realise who is paying his wages?



He should just shut his mouth and stop telling everyone exactly how he feels - the truth is just not welcome around these parts. We could all start to like you a lot more Casey if you just bent over and took it up the ... like a real man.....which reminds me - does anyone know where I can buy some Hayden 69 merchandise?
 
Jumkie is so right as usual.....I mean what a ....... ingrate....doesnt he realise who is paying his wages?



He should just shut his mouth and stop telling everyone exactly how he feels - the truth is just not welcome around these parts. We could all start to like you a lot more Casey if you just bent over and took it up the ... like a real man.....which reminds me - does anyone know where I can buy some Hayden 69 merchandise?

You do realize that they exist for our entertainment dont you. How dare that cocky little ....... speak his mind. After all, he is just a cloaked purist of the sport.
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You do realize that they exist for our entertainment dont you. How dare that cocky little ....... speak his mind. After all, he is just a cloaked purist of the sport.
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Imagine the nerve of the guy....to actually want to ride the most technologicallly advanced purpose built race bikes on the planet and then saying he will lose interest if they continue dumbing down the formula - what a prick!



"Deal with it and get a grip." Jumkie should take his own advice - until that time no-one can challenge his status as undisputed forum whiner.
 
Always the sign that u have nothing. Interesting, u fools have become the new boppers of GP, probably worse. U hav zero to debate, so u jack eachothers off. U hav anything to add to the debate or u guys just gonna come on eachothers faces?
 
Always the sign that u have nothing. Interesting, u fools have become the new boppers of GP, probably worse. U hav zero to debate, so u jack eachothers off. U hav anything to add to the debate or u guys just gonna come on eachothers faces?



What no six page thesis?
 
What no six page thesis?



U have trouble reading, much less understanding. So i kept it simple. Even used small words for u.



U know had Rossi said this u, pov, mental, bunnyip, bm, would have been all over it. Double standards are the ugliest traits of a fan. And u little boys squarely have employed the tactic. U lost all credibility. U've joined the ranks of the Scotys & BM of the world. I know ive fallen out of grace, despite me being one of the most staunch Stoner defenders. But ur collective inability to call out a few poorly made thoughts by him puts u in no better company than the fans u desperately tried to distinguish urself from.
 
What no six page thesis?



It dosen't need a whole lot of explaining. In the last 12 months this board has gone from a few raving boppers to a few raving boners. Luckily there is a well informed, well spoken (sometimes) group in the middle who aren't necessarily following a deity around like sheep.
 
First off. The CRT thing isn't cutting the balls off the sport. It's bringing it back to it's roots.



The first 25 odd years of the is sport was two factory MV's and a whole grid of hopped up privater Norton Manx's and Matchless G50's. Production based machines.

And for the most part the British bikes had no factory support and they relied on the ingenuity of the teams and riders to compete. Not legions of pencil pushers.

I'm talking about the 500cc class for the record.



That is the pedigree of MotoGp.



This series has NEVER been full prototype racing. To think otherwise means either your head is in the sand or you don't read.



No supercharging from day one.



1958 Dustbin fairing made illegal.



1969 Limits on gearbox's (six gears) and cylinders (no more six cylinder 250's)



Just a few examples there.



Rules have been changed over the years to keep development costs down and to keep development somewhat relevant. It's been happening since the beginning and it will always go on.



I don't hear anybody on this board flipping out that teams are not allowed to have a 16 speed gearbox….



Honda left in the late 60's because they were pissed they weren't allowed to outspend everybody to win a championship. And the series survived.



One rider leaving won't kill it either.



....... excellent post!
 
Jum is all butt hurt because the riders themselves have countered his opinion. I do find it funny that he wants to compare Rossi's threat to quit to Stoners. Rossi threatened to quit to gain competitive advantage, Stoner threatens to quit because of uninspiring machinery. Same thing huh Jum, What a tool! I personally would stand up and cheer if Rossi threatened to quit if the bikes go to Moto SB spec. One thing Stoner doesnt realize is, Dorna probably wishes he would leave, that would be one less obstacle for them to overcome to get the meal ticket back towards the front.
 

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