Stoner says: It's about the money.

but according to him he slowed down for one rider but ended staying at that slow pace for a bit more than he wanted cuz there were other rider(s) on a fast lap so he moved out of their way. then he tried getting back on the pace and it bit him in the ... due to the cold tires

Tekniqs said:

but according to him he slowed down for one rider but ended staying at that slow pace for a bit more than he wanted cuz there were other rider(s) on a fast lap so he moved out of their way. then he tried getting back on the pace and it bit him in the ... due to the cold tires

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I think you're banging your head against a brick wall. You're arguing against Barry ........, a biased scientist and a muddled Mexican.

woody996 said:

I think you're banging your head against a brick wall. You're arguing against Barry ........, a biased scientist and a muddled Mexican.

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Who you calling a "scientist"!? <angry guy







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I'll throw something else out there.



It is documented that Rossi's riding style changed after the crash where he injured his shoulder. The point was that he couldn't go into the corners as late and lacked power on the changes in direction. He was making up for being slow into corners by trying to be quicker out which caused the tyre to spin more and led to Rossi stating that he didn't have the bike setup right. The trigger for this was his physical failing when in all probability, if he was 100%, he may not have had the particular issues above, more importantly he might not have had the spinning up on the way out of corners to the same degree.



The crash at Mugello was on a change in direction, at a high speed section. Let's say he came out of the first corner, was harder than normal on the gas making up for his failings, the tyre has spun more than it should, combine this with manhandling the bike from one side to another and it is no surprise that something could have gone wrong. Rossi himself said that he wonders whether his shoulder was a contributing factor to the crash. Seeing as we a microanalysing everything that happens in Motogp, maybe it was a contributing factor.

woody996 said:

I'll throw something else out there.



It is documented that Rossi's riding style changed after the crash where he injured his shoulder. The point was that he couldn't go into the corners as late and lacked power on the changes in direction. He was making up for being slow into corners by trying to be quicker out which caused the tyre to spin more and led to Rossi stating that he didn't have the bike setup right. The trigger for this was his physical failing when in all probability, if he was 100%, he may not have had the particular issues above, more importantly he might not have had the spinning up on the way out of corners to the same degree.



The crash at Mugello was on a change in direction, at a high speed section. Let's say he came out of the first corner, was harder than normal on the gas making up for his failings, the tyre has spun more than it should, combine this with manhandling the bike from one side to another and it is no surprise that something could have gone wrong. Rossi himself said that he wonders whether his shoulder was a contributing factor to the crash. Seeing as we a microanalysing everything that happens in Motogp, maybe it was a contributing factor.

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Tekniqs said:

i feel people in here are REEEEEEACHING lol

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Just throwing it out there, taking a leaf out of your book.

woody996 said:

I think you're banging your head against a brick wall. You're arguing against Barry ........, a biased scientist and a muddled Mexican.

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You ....... ........ he's agreeing with me

woody996 said:

I'll throw something else out there.



It is documented that Rossi's riding style changed after the crash where he injured his shoulder. The point was that he couldn't go into the corners as late and lacked power on the changes in direction. He was making up for being slow into corners by trying to be quicker out which caused the tyre to spin more and led to Rossi stating that he didn't have the bike setup right. The trigger for this was his physical failing when in all probability, if he was 100%, he may not have had the particular issues above, more importantly he might not have had the spinning up on the way out of corners to the same degree.



The crash at Mugello was on a change in direction, at a high speed section. Let's say he came out of the first corner, was harder than normal on the gas making up for his failings, the tyre has spun more than it should, combine this with manhandling the bike from one side to another and it is no surprise that something could have gone wrong. Rossi himself said that he wonders whether his shoulder was a contributing factor to the crash. Seeing as we a microanalysing everything that happens in Motogp, maybe it was a contributing factor.

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Where? ........ or is this another myth

BarryMachine said:

Where? ........ or is this anther myth

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Interviews with JB regarding the telemetry after a race.

woody996 said:

Interviews with JB regarding the telemetry after a race.

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I think it was right after Jerez or Le Man race.

Myth then either way its a pretty moot point as there are allways guys injured out there in mgp.

inam said:

I think it was right after Jerez or Le Man race.

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it was jerez

BarryMachine said:

Myth then

either way its a pretty moot point as there are allways guys injured out there in mgp.

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My link





JB didn't accept that it was setup issues and pointed to Vale that it is indeed his shoulder making him drive the corners in different style.

surendhar said:

My link





JB didn't accept that it was setup issues and pointed to Vale that it is indeed his shoulder making him drive the corners in different style.

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Hardly "documented" then I think you guys are trying to build another mountain out of a molehill again

BarryMachine said:

Hardly "documented" then

I think you guys are trying to build another mountain out of a molehill again

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If you don't believe the telemetry data (as per JB who you have high regard for) , then what would you believe in??

for those that believe, no explanation is needed

for those who don't, none will suffice



i think barry is in the latter category lol

bottom line.............it's always about the money! show me the $$$