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michaelm
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Lorenzo is as tough as they come, and very likely tougher than Stoner. I actually thought that Stoner's comment about Lorenzo at that time was bad form, and Karma challenging as you say, as was his disdain for Melandri in 2008, and I think I said so at both times.  Karmically as you say, or ironically, similarly to Melandri he was labelled  as a headcase at Ducati in 2009.

 

"Fracture" covers a multitude of things though, from a bone chip to a horrendous comminuted thing with vascular compromise like Mick Doohan's in 1992, and less dramatic appearing things like scaphoid fractures are far more likely to have bad sequelae than a dramatic fracture like Rossi's one in 2010, which once it didn't become infected which his leathers remaining intact probably saved him from was likely to have a good outcome, not that I would underestimate his achievement in coming back so soon and winning a race. It was a scaphoid injury which eventually terminated Kevin Schwantz's career, and whatever is questionable about him it was not his courage.

 

Details of the nature of Lorenzo's ankle fractures in 2008 and Stoner's in 2011 were never released. Since Stoner was apparently risking longterm problems I would suspect he had a fracture of his talar dome or calcaneus involving a joint ie an osteochondral fracture. Bones heal very well in the absence of  infection or vascular compromise, particularly single breaks without fragmentation/comminution, but articular cartilage doesn't.

 

The clavicle is regarded in general as a relatively unimportant bone, although this probably doesn't extend to manipulating premier class GP racing bikes at high speed; Colin Edwards did have one of his best CRT performances in similar circumstances to Jorge's this weekend if I recall though.  If it was a single break he probably wouldn't be all that functionally compromised with a plate in situ, "just" in extreme pain, but  from reports it appears to have involved multiple fractures. All credit to him whenever he comes back if he contends despite the injury, but if he comes back for this race or the next it is further proof he is not a normal mortal man.


I read the medical report regarding Stoners ankle injury at Indy. Not only did he have a he had a fracture of his talar dome or calcaneus involving a joint ie an osteochondral fracture but the way he hit the tarmac caused his cranium to become wedged inside the coccyx. This caused a vascular compromise because the weakened cranium was crushing the fallopian tube cutting off blood flow. It was a very complicated operation. They needed to make their incision deep inside the ......l cavity. The good news was he suffered no visible scarring due to being able to work through his existing gash
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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I read the medical report regarding Stoners ankle injury at Indy. Not only did he have a he had a fracture of his talar dome or calcaneus involving a joint ie an osteochondral fracture but the way he hit the tarmac caused his cranium to become wedged inside the coccyx. This caused a vascular compromise because the weakened cranium was crushing the fallopian tube cutting off blood flow. It was a very complicated operation. They needed to make their incision deep inside the ......l cavity. The good news was he suffered no visible scarring due to being able to work through his existing gash


As I said, you will need to specify if you are attempting humour, it is difficult for those of us who don't approach your intellect to appreciate the subtlety.


 


I have to say I did think the one about the special black things on Rossi's wheels was clever, not necessarily because it was directed at Rossi.
 
cliché guevara
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Can't we just ban the ...... until the next award show?
Our esteemed host Mdub is currently on sabbatical. He has found an inner tranquility that can only be attributed to the irrestible lure of new ......

At this time the fate award show is in doubt unless Dubby comes out of retirement.

If not I have a final solution

Maybe you could take up the mantle as host and commandant. Your a fungi and would be perfect for the job
 
michaelm
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As I said, you will need to specify if you are attempting humour, it is difficult for those of us who don't approach your intellect to appreciate the subtlety. 


 


I have nowhere near your facility with things medical, but just using a seat-of-the-pants analysis of how much I have lost over the years, I think I have worked it out: If you hold your breath long enough so you don't die, just cause progressively more severe brain-damage, I think I could get close to his level in about 15 months. If I used a lump hammer, I suspect I could shave off a few months.
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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Our esteemed host Mdub is currently on sabbatical. He has found an inner tranquility that can only be attributed to the irrestible lure of new ......

At this time the fate award show is in doubt unless Dubby comes out of retirement.

If not I have a final solution

Maybe you could take up the mantle as host and commandant. Your a fungi and would be perfect for the job


 


Dubby is going to get a kick in the bollox if he don't reply or get in touch!


 


JK if you know of why he may not be able to contact me please PM me ;)
 
lil red rocket pilot
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Dubby is going to get a kick in the bollox if he don't reply or get in touch!

 

JK if you know of why he may not be able to contact me please PM me ;)


Lets ask Keshav. Those two were very close
 
Stoner would have been out for a month with a broken collar bone. Lorenza is back in a day. We don't need stoner back.
 
VROSSI46
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Stoner would have been out for a month with a broken collar bone. Lorenza is back in a day. We don't need stoner back.


 


I made a pact with God that if Pedro didn't win and Rossi finished ahead I would suspend my normal takes.  You will not deter me from my pact.  The Good Lord delivered and I will stand by my word.
 
Jumkie
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I made a pact with God that if Pedro didn't win and Rossi finished ahead I would suspend my normal takes.  You will not deter me from my pact.  The Good Lord delivered and I will stand by my word.


 


This got me thinking... I wonder if the churches of Italy will be overflowing tomorrow as a result of similar pacts?
 
Jumkie
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Stoner would have been out for a month with a broken collar bone. Lorenza is back in a day. We don't need stoner back.


I made a pact with God that if Pedro didn't win and Rossi finished ahead I would suspend my normal takes. You will not deter me from my pact. The Good Lord delivered and I will stand by my word.


You made a pact with god to abstain from alcohol as well too
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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Dubby is going to get a kick in the bollox if he don't reply or get in touch!


JK if you know of why he may not be able to contact me please PM me ;)


Lets ask Keshav. Those two were very close


Inseperable
 
VROSSI46
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Stoner would have been out for a month with a broken collar bone. Lorenza is back in a day. We don't need stoner back.


Since he never broke his collarbone to my knowledge, and definitely won't be coming back, I guess we will never know.
 
Stoner is gay. His family were deported from the UK back when homosexuality was illegal. Stoner would have taken a month off after seeing Jorge's crash. 
 
basspete
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Stoner is gay. His family were deported from the UK back when homosexuality was illegal. Stoner would have taken a month off after seeing Jorge's crash.
You take a terrifically keen interest in those with an alternative sexuality. Anything you'd like to share with us? It's OK, you're among friends here ...
 
basspete
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Stoner is gay. His family were deported from the UK back when homosexuality was illegal. Stoner would have taken a month off after seeing Jorge's crash. 
 

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basspete
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Stoner is gay. His family were deported from the UK back when homosexuality was illegal. Stoner would have taken a month off after seeing Jorge's crash. 


 


I don't think very much of that is right!!?? are you making some of that up? Not that there'd be anything wrong with it if he was gay........


 


oh ... and when was homosexuality illegal in the UK?


 


 


oh and PS ... aren't you a Rossi fan?


 


 


Just out of interest ..... when did you move to The pORKNholES?


 


 


Oh and PS ......... don't get all ...... with me!! its not my fault! Jumkie is making me say everything I say!!
 
basspete
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Stoner is gay. His family were deported from the UK back when homosexuality was illegal. Stoner would have taken a month off after seeing Jorge's crash. 


 


Apparently you've been laboring under a misapprehension. Homosexuality has been legal in the UK since 1967.


No wonder you've been so apprehensive about visiting your brothers there. Remind me now... which clan is it that wears the pink tartan?
 

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