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He doesn't lie.
He denied he was driving V8s till he had a contract stating he was going to be driving V8s. Same with quitting - he denied it, until he had handed in his notice. I don't think he is a big fan of moto journalists and if he can .... them over, he will. It is a small measure of payback for all the ..... they have written about him in the past.
He doesn't lie.
He denied he was driving V8s till he had a contract stating he was going to be driving V8s. Same with quitting - he denied it, until he had handed in his notice. I don't think he is a big fan of moto journalists and if he can .... them over, he will. It is a small measure of payback for all the ..... they have written about him in the past.
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Haha well played.
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I dont think Krops was including himself in that list. And i'd agree with him
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What I meant was that Stoner hated journalists so much that he would rather stay away. Yet another reason for him not to go racing, so he doesn't have to deal with my fellow morons.
Not at all. I liked having Stoner about. I think he tolerated me, which was slightly better than many others.
What I meant was that Stoner hated journalists so much that he would rather stay away. Yet another reason for him not to go racing, so he doesn't have to deal with my fellow morons.
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Sports reporters in general have a tough job, because mostly all they can do is ask stupid questions that have been answered a million times. I actually got a kick out of coach Popovich during the NBA finals. You force me to answer stupid questions, i will either give you stupid answers, or answers so short they dont qualify as a quote. Realistically, about 99% of the questions you get from reporters deserve an eye roll and next question. Or should that be next stupid question.
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To be fair, a lot of sports journalism is aimed more at the casual reader. That means asking stupid questions, as casual readers are only interested in superficial responses. And sometimes, stupid questions generate genuinely interesting responses. As Michael Scott once said "it's not about the question, it's about the answer". But yes, a lot of that is trying to force a response.
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Sounds like a terrible life answering 20 questions every couple of weeks for $10 million dollars.
I too would be angry and full of hate toward you for doing your job
I too would be angry and full of hate toward you for doing your job
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I would have made a better munchkin
I would have made a better munchkin
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Seriously... someone did a study that found once a person makes much more than around $75,000.00 a year - their level of happiness does not increase exponentially. The amount of money a rider gets paid, doesn't ameliorate the exasperation experienced whilst being asked cretinous questions.
I work in a business where I'm constantly having to answer the same dumb-... questions and it's mentally fatiguing to have to repeat myself over and over and over ad nauseum. I invite new and thought provoking questions, but find that I resent having to ask questions that lazy-minded people could know the answer to by googling the question.
I think it's safe to say that people don't get into MotoGP for the fun of answering inane, puerile questions over and over again, by reporters from every part of the planet. And a lot of the questions these guy get asked are ........ questions about stupid-... rumors that are started by the press themselves, which means they're too stupid to come up with real questions and are wasting the rider's time by making them refute allegations that the interviewer already know are nonsense. Seems so many are just brainless media hacks too witless or too lazy to do their homework before coming to the interview.
I can't speak for the the members of the press - but us fans as it were, do perceive great racers as being somehow exalted, and that being the case - it seems reasonable that when one approaches someone who has gone to great pains and made huge sacrifices to get where they are - one should have enough respect to have composed reasonably intelligent questions.
I ....... hate it when they ask some rider on the 4th or 5th row of the grid while he's trying concentrate in the midst of cameras in his face and celebrities wandering around "So... what's your plan for this race and how do you think you're gonna do?" :wallbash:
Seriously... someone did a study that found once a person makes much more than around $75,000.00 a year - their level of happiness does not increase exponentially. The amount of money a rider gets paid, doesn't ameliorate the exasperation experienced whilst being asked cretinous questions.
I work in a business where I'm constantly having to answer the same dumb-... questions and it's mentally fatiguing to have to repeat myself over and over and over ad nauseum. I invite new and thought provoking questions, but find that I resent having to ask questions that lazy-minded people could know the answer to by googling the question.
I think it's safe to say that people don't get into MotoGP for the fun of answering inane, puerile questions over and over again, by reporters from every part of the planet. And a lot of the questions these guy get asked are ........ questions about stupid-... rumors that are started by the press themselves, which means they're too stupid to come up with real questions and are wasting the rider's time by making them refute allegations that the interviewer already know are nonsense. Seems so many are just brainless media hacks too witless or too lazy to do their homework before coming to the interview.
I can't speak for the the members of the press - but us fans as it were, do perceive great racers as being somehow exalted, and that being the case - it seems reasonable that when one approaches someone who has gone to great pains and made huge sacrifices to get where they are - one should have enough respect to have composed reasonably intelligent questions.
I ....... hate it when they ask some rider on the 4th or 5th row of the grid while he's trying concentrate in the midst of cameras in his face and celebrities wandering around "So... what's your plan for this race and how do you think you're gonna do?" :wallbash:
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Listen I'll let you all into a secret.
He is gone!
He is pissarsing about driving tin tops and fishing and of course escaping those piss arse jobs the missus is nagging him to get sorted.
GTF over it this thread has gone on long enough.
The buck toothed (and that is rich from a pom) quitter has gone!
EOT!
He is gone!
He is pissarsing about driving tin tops and fishing and of course escaping those piss arse jobs the missus is nagging him to get sorted.
GTF over it this thread has gone on long enough.
The buck toothed (and that is rich from a pom) quitter has gone!
EOT!
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The news that Jorge might be planning to race tomorrow to salvage some points fills me with admiration and respect and again demonstrates how committed and determined 99% of these guys are. In addition to that, the dedication and mental and physical resilience that it takes to not only ascend to the level that Jorge Lorenzo has achieved - but also to stay there - irrespective of machinery (something I do concede is pertinent to the Valentino debate) is beyond contemplation for us mere mortals and armchair pundits amongst our online fraternity. You are however left with the feeling, had that have been Dani given his history of bad breakages and relative fragility, not to mention Assen, he may well have been out for Sachsenring too.
That Casey was lucicrously widely disparaged and lampooned over his illness - something which I was keen to point out similarly afflicted Sheene whilst trying to fend off the indomitable King Kenny - was shameful. Similarly, his remarkable tenacity you mention at Indy was equally as scornfully dismissed.
The Lorenzo incident did however set me thinking about one of Jorge's many 2008 'moonshots'. I think returning after the China highside having broken both ankles he was observed by Stoner hobbling around the paddock at Catalunya on crutches, (a race meeting that resulted in another practice crash and concussion forcing him to miss the race), prompting Casey to cynically and quite scathingly suggest that irrespective of the wheelchair and crutches he was faking injury and courting attention. Karma can be cruel.
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Lorenzo is as tough as they come, and very likely tougher than Stoner. I actually thought that Stoner's comment about Lorenzo at that time was bad form, and Karma challenging as you say, as was his disdain for Melandri in 2008, and I think I said so at both times. Karmically as you say, or ironically, similarly to Melandri he was labelled as a headcase at Ducati in 2009.
"Fracture" covers a multitude of things though, from a bone chip to a horrendous comminuted thing with vascular compromise like Mick Doohan's in 1992, and less dramatic appearing things like scaphoid fractures are far more likely to have bad sequelae than a dramatic fracture like Rossi's one in 2010, which once it didn't become infected which his leathers remaining intact probably saved him from was likely to have a good outcome, not that I would underestimate his achievement in coming back so soon and winning a race. It was a scaphoid injury which eventually terminated Kevin Schwantz's career, and whatever is questionable about him it was not his courage.
Details of the nature of Lorenzo's ankle fractures in 2008 and Stoner's in 2011 were never released. Since Stoner was apparently risking longterm problems I would suspect he had a fracture of his talar dome or calcaneus involving a joint ie an osteochondral fracture. Bones heal very well in the absence of infection or vascular compromise, particularly single breaks without fragmentation/comminution, but articular cartilage doesn't.
The clavicle is regarded in general as a relatively unimportant bone, although this probably doesn't extend to manipulating premier class GP racing bikes at high speed; Colin Edwards did have one of his best CRT performances in similar circumstances to Jorge's this weekend if I recall though. If it was a single break he probably wouldn't be all that functionally compromised with a plate in situ, "just" in extreme pain, but from reports it appears to have involved multiple fractures. All credit to him whenever he comes back if he contends despite the injury, but if he comes back for this race or the next it is further proof he is not a normal mortal man.
Lorenzo is as tough as they come, and very likely tougher than Stoner. I actually thought that Stoner's comment about Lorenzo at that time was bad form, and Karma challenging as you say, as was his disdain for Melandri in 2008, and I think I said so at both times. Karmically as you say, or ironically, similarly to Melandri he was labelled as a headcase at Ducati in 2009.
"Fracture" covers a multitude of things though, from a bone chip to a horrendous comminuted thing with vascular compromise like Mick Doohan's in 1992, and less dramatic appearing things like scaphoid fractures are far more likely to have bad sequelae than a dramatic fracture like Rossi's one in 2010, which once it didn't become infected which his leathers remaining intact probably saved him from was likely to have a good outcome, not that I would underestimate his achievement in coming back so soon and winning a race. It was a scaphoid injury which eventually terminated Kevin Schwantz's career, and whatever is questionable about him it was not his courage.
Details of the nature of Lorenzo's ankle fractures in 2008 and Stoner's in 2011 were never released. Since Stoner was apparently risking longterm problems I would suspect he had a fracture of his talar dome or calcaneus involving a joint ie an osteochondral fracture. Bones heal very well in the absence of infection or vascular compromise, particularly single breaks without fragmentation/comminution, but articular cartilage doesn't.
The clavicle is regarded in general as a relatively unimportant bone, although this probably doesn't extend to manipulating premier class GP racing bikes at high speed; Colin Edwards did have one of his best CRT performances in similar circumstances to Jorge's this weekend if I recall though. If it was a single break he probably wouldn't be all that functionally compromised with a plate in situ, "just" in extreme pain, but from reports it appears to have involved multiple fractures. All credit to him whenever he comes back if he contends despite the injury, but if he comes back for this race or the next it is further proof he is not a normal mortal man.
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Brilliant response and a highly informative post. Thank you.
Brilliant response and a highly informative post. Thank you.
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