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I read the report from Motegi, you get a much bigger dose of radiation from an Xray machine, don't hear riders complaining of that
Congrates to Stoner and his wife on their pregnancy. A good explanation by Stoner on his reasoning behind the call on not going to Japan. He is behaving in a very normal manner as a first time expecting father in my opinion.
He's behaving like a sook. I manage to go to work without bringing my wife. Why can't he? If he's worried about the effect on an unborn baby, don't bring it.
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His job and yours have a slightly different dynamic, dont you think. He has, or had serious concerns. Considering there has been a ban on meat shipments for cattle that was close to 3 times as far away, he has legitimate concerns. Everyone keeps saying you get as much flying, you get more in an Xray.What is the cumulative if he flies to Motegi, spends 4 days in a hot zone, wrecks on Sunday and has a battery of xrays.
His job and yours have a slightly different dynamic, dont you think. He has, or had serious concerns. Considering there has been a ban on meat shipments for cattle that was close to 3 times as far away, he has legitimate concerns. Everyone keeps saying you get as much flying, you get more in an Xray.What is the cumulative if he flies to Motegi, spends 4 days in a hot zone, wrecks on Sunday and has a battery of xrays.
I didnt realise the rider's had to eat the grass there. I thought they had catering !
His work means that he is constantly travelling and potentially putting his life in danger every day. It is not unreasonable to have your partner there under those circumstances and it is not like he is the only rider who takes their partner to every race meeting.
Perhaps having his wife there is like Rossi picking his undies out of his bum...superstition! Perhaps he gets a BJ each morning before he gets on the bike! Perhaps he wants to have more children.
If you notice the article indicates there are several riders who are yet to commit to attending.
I had a mate who worked on an oil rig and he didn't have his wife with him. come to think of it i dont think soldiers have taken their familys with them since the 17th centry
Yes there are a few yet to commit. The baby thing isn't an excuse though as he doesn't have to have her there for 3 days in his life. I'm sure if Rossi couldn't pick his undies out for 3 days he wouldn't like it but he would get on with it anyway. Yes there are a number of riders who bring their partners there but if they can't make it, it's not the end of the world.
Those who are yet to cOmmit will go. They are just waiting for more info from reliable sources so they can make their decision at the latest possible time - seems intelligent. Stoner came out saying I won't go no matter what and now he's backpedalling.
Those who are yet to cOmmit will go. They are just waiting for more info from reliable sources so they can make their decision at the latest possible time - seems intelligent. Stoner came out saying I won't go no matter what and now he's backpedalling.
I had a mate who worked on an oil rig and he didn't have his wife with him. come to think of it i dont think soldiers have taken their familys with them since the 17th centry
I think all SAS soldiers should now take their wives with them to Afghanistan as their job is very dangerous and there is a much higher risk that they won't come back.
Actually I think stoner reneging on his motegi vow is the same as Rossi reneging on his tobacco sponsorship. I want to see some stoner fans walk away after such a flagrant breaking of a man's word.
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It will be interesting to see their list of excuses for their hero Casey.... Especially from the ones who were so critical of the other backpedal you mentioned.........
What utter nonsense. Roger, who I have the impression just might be a rossi fan, is the one who had the big issue with the rossi tobacco backpedal. No stoner fan is in any position to criticise rossi on that issue given that stoner rode for marlboro for 4 years. I am vehemently opposed to tobacco sponsorship and admired rossi for taking the stance originally, and so have to admit to hypocrisy on the issue, but it should be up to the authorities to set policy since for much of the existence of the sport taking a stance against tobacco sponsorship would amount to retiring from premier class gp racing.
However, I absolutely fail to see what Stoner, perhaps misguidedly, taking a stance on his and his family's health has to do with tobacco sponsorship. I also think it is highly unlikely that he will be promoting marlboros again anytime soon.
Reading between the lines if he does break his word it will be to jorge lorenzo in any case, whose name is conveniently absent from this discussion.
I wouldnt care which rider it was thats a .... excuse!
Theyve had a report it says negliable, get your arses on a plane!
Theyve had a report it says negliable, get your arses on a plane!
Yeah there is a real similarity between a soldier taking his family into a war zone and a rider taking his family to a race track. The similarity in this case though is Stoner doesn't want to put his family in danger by exposing them to radiation just like a soldier does not want to put his family in danger by exposing them to a war zone. An oil rig is a WPHS lock down environment and no place for a family. The back of a pit box is a relatively safe place in comparison. Not sure of the last time someone was killed in the back of a pit box in comparison to how many have been killed on oil rigs just in the last 12mths.
I think the title of the thread setup that it would be about Stoner, naturally it progressed to include Rossi because the two can't have their own threads and now spotting the obvious inequity, you've brought in Lorenzo. I'm just playing, I really don't care about who sponsors Rossi, whether Stoner goes to Motegi and whether or not Lorenzo gets busted for breaking his word. I'm a little bored waiting for some racing.
I don't think Casey has ever objected to Tobacco sponsorship has he? So I'm not really sure of the parallel there.
Also whilst it may seem that Casey is a back peddler that does not make him a hypocrite (in this case).
Also I think there is an overall doubt on the quality of information about the dangers of radiation currently in Japan due to the doubts of the actual radiation levels.
I was fairly highly publicised during the height of the Tsunami disaster that that the Japanese Nuclear Authorities where sand bagging as to the actual danger from the entire incident.
Also hasn't there been bans on food i.e. crops cattle etc. being shipped to areas such as Tokyo (which is a considerable distance from the disaster zone also) from areas hundreds of km's from the disaster area? (don't flame me on this I can't remember where I read it sorry but I believe this to be the case).
So isn't it perfectly reasonable for someone to have doubts about there safety?
I agree about his wife and child though, if he's worried leave them at home but drawing a relationship to soldiers deploying to war zones is just idiotic....sorry make your connection however you want but that just plain dumb.
I am a Casey fan yes, but I also think he did himself no favours by speaking out so early about his objections to going but you "antiboners" should be happy he has given you something else to knife him for.
Anyway just my thoughts
Cheers
Gecko
Also whilst it may seem that Casey is a back peddler that does not make him a hypocrite (in this case).
Also I think there is an overall doubt on the quality of information about the dangers of radiation currently in Japan due to the doubts of the actual radiation levels.
I was fairly highly publicised during the height of the Tsunami disaster that that the Japanese Nuclear Authorities where sand bagging as to the actual danger from the entire incident.
Also hasn't there been bans on food i.e. crops cattle etc. being shipped to areas such as Tokyo (which is a considerable distance from the disaster zone also) from areas hundreds of km's from the disaster area? (don't flame me on this I can't remember where I read it sorry but I believe this to be the case).
So isn't it perfectly reasonable for someone to have doubts about there safety?
I agree about his wife and child though, if he's worried leave them at home but drawing a relationship to soldiers deploying to war zones is just idiotic....sorry make your connection however you want but that just plain dumb.
I am a Casey fan yes, but I also think he did himself no favours by speaking out so early about his objections to going but you "antiboners" should be happy he has given you something else to knife him for.
Anyway just my thoughts
Cheers
Gecko
