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Geotmzerd is an expert at tabloid journalism maybe we can get his opinion on whether this is sensationalism or actual bad blood.
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Poo Boy, you're back!
Can you please answer a question that has been nagging at me for some time? How the heck did you come to be such an emotionally damaged individual? Perhaps your parents failed you in some dramatic way?
OTOH, maybe Mom and Pop tried their best, but you were just born a sullen, miserable prick?
What's the story?
Poo Boy, you're back!
Can you please answer a question that has been nagging at me for some time? How the heck did you come to be such an emotionally damaged individual? Perhaps your parents failed you in some dramatic way?
OTOH, maybe Mom and Pop tried their best, but you were just born a sullen, miserable prick?
What's the story?
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Yawn.
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Jumkie
I suffer from insomnia but i think i've found the cure lol
I suffer from insomnia but i think i've found the cure lol
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Geonerd
Mom was a little religious wacko and dad was a detached ....
I answered your question now please back up your statement with some facts.
In case you forgot.
"Most of these incidents Were down to sloppy bike preparation"
Hurry up Choppers getting sleepy
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Poo Boy, you're back!
Can you please answer a question that has been nagging at me for some time? How the heck did you come to be such an emotionally damaged individual? Perhaps your parents failed you in some dramatic way?
OTOH, maybe Mom and Pop tried their best, but you were just born a sullen, miserable prick?
What's the story?
Mom was a little religious wacko and dad was a detached ....
I answered your question now please back up your statement with some facts.
In case you forgot.
"Most of these incidents Were down to sloppy bike preparation"
Hurry up Choppers getting sleepy
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Come on Geo ffs. Either post the facts and shut JK up or admit you're talking out of your arse. I'm struggling to keep my eyes open here.
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In general or specifically regarding Mladin not stepping up to WSBk? Mladin always regarded that as an inferior series to AMA. As I recall from the post in question, Sun was referring to Matt's ill fated tenure in GP on the Cagiva.
I strongly suspect Oost is aiming his comment at Mladin's evident hypocrisy as opposed to a reluctance to progress or seek a new challenge in the sport.
Perhaps we should all graduate to Moto Matters.
In general or specifically regarding Mladin not stepping up to WSBk? Mladin always regarded that as an inferior series to AMA. As I recall from the post in question, Sun was referring to Matt's ill fated tenure in GP on the Cagiva.
I strongly suspect Oost is aiming his comment at Mladin's evident hypocrisy as opposed to a reluctance to progress or seek a new challenge in the sport.
Perhaps we should all graduate to Moto Matters.
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Again from SOUP, Edwards thoughts on Spies.....
Forward MotoGP rider Colin Edwards II, heading home to Texas after the Japanese Grand Prix, still had his head in Motegi and the upcoming Spanish Grand Prix at Valencia and hadn't even thought much about Ben Spies decision to retire.
"So, did he not want to ride the Superbike?" Edwards asked about Spies. It's rumored that Spies mulled over a season on the Panigale Ducati WSBK before deciding to retire.
"It's still surprising," Edwards said of Spies. "I guess he feels that this is the time to call it quits. He's been injured so much I think he just feels that this is the right time."
Many, Edwards included, suspected that Spies would race one more season on a Superbike before exiting the sport. However, beyond injuries, Edwards feels that the economic realities of international roadracing are also a factor in why Spies decided to hang up his helmet for good.
"There's no money in this sport anymore. You're risking your life to do this and if you're doing it for peanuts then it just doesn't make sense," Edwards says.
Guarded and at home behind a pair of sunglasses, Ben Spies remains the biggest racing introvert that the sport had seen since Freddie Spencer. While Spencer's distance from anyone not in his racing inner circle was like that of a celebrity, Spies has and always will be—at his core—just a very shy person. As an example: while most riders will preen for any minor celebrity, Spies had to nearly be dragged over to meet Tonight Show host Jay Leno once, and still stiffens up slightly when around people he doesn't know. Current WSBK champion Tom Sykes was teamed with Spies for a season and barely knows him at all.
In reality Spies had two close rider friends in the GP paddock: Casey Stoner and his former teammate Colin Edwards II. In 2010 the pair were teammates at Tech 3 Yamaha, the year of the famed "Team Texas".
Being from Texas the pair fell into a great friendship. As you'd expect, Edwards says, "We clicked. It was a fun year."
Famously, that season Edwards was the first to show Spies the film "The Big Lebowski", a movie that they went on to watch countless times together.
Edwards gives Spies credit where due. "That whole season, on the track, he was in front of me. He rode great," Edwards says. "The elevator was going up for him, he was skyrocketing."
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Oct/13102845.htm
Forward MotoGP rider Colin Edwards II, heading home to Texas after the Japanese Grand Prix, still had his head in Motegi and the upcoming Spanish Grand Prix at Valencia and hadn't even thought much about Ben Spies decision to retire.
"So, did he not want to ride the Superbike?" Edwards asked about Spies. It's rumored that Spies mulled over a season on the Panigale Ducati WSBK before deciding to retire.
"It's still surprising," Edwards said of Spies. "I guess he feels that this is the time to call it quits. He's been injured so much I think he just feels that this is the right time."
Many, Edwards included, suspected that Spies would race one more season on a Superbike before exiting the sport. However, beyond injuries, Edwards feels that the economic realities of international roadracing are also a factor in why Spies decided to hang up his helmet for good.
"There's no money in this sport anymore. You're risking your life to do this and if you're doing it for peanuts then it just doesn't make sense," Edwards says.
Guarded and at home behind a pair of sunglasses, Ben Spies remains the biggest racing introvert that the sport had seen since Freddie Spencer. While Spencer's distance from anyone not in his racing inner circle was like that of a celebrity, Spies has and always will be—at his core—just a very shy person. As an example: while most riders will preen for any minor celebrity, Spies had to nearly be dragged over to meet Tonight Show host Jay Leno once, and still stiffens up slightly when around people he doesn't know. Current WSBK champion Tom Sykes was teamed with Spies for a season and barely knows him at all.
In reality Spies had two close rider friends in the GP paddock: Casey Stoner and his former teammate Colin Edwards II. In 2010 the pair were teammates at Tech 3 Yamaha, the year of the famed "Team Texas".
Being from Texas the pair fell into a great friendship. As you'd expect, Edwards says, "We clicked. It was a fun year."
Famously, that season Edwards was the first to show Spies the film "The Big Lebowski", a movie that they went on to watch countless times together.
Edwards gives Spies credit where due. "That whole season, on the track, he was in front of me. He rode great," Edwards says. "The elevator was going up for him, he was skyrocketing."
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Oct/13102845.htm
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It makes me sad, as well as acutely aware that so much humor must go undetected on this site. I even highlighted the part that centered around my quip to no avail.
Here is another hint: Nieto.
No sir, I think Austin's comment was squarely at Mladin's "reluctance to progress or seek a new challenge in the sport".
Anyway, I was trying to be witty.
It makes me sad, as well as acutely aware that so much humor must go undetected on this site. I even highlighted the part that centered around my quip to no avail.
Here is another hint: Nieto.
No sir, I think Austin's comment was squarely at Mladin's "reluctance to progress or seek a new challenge in the sport".
Anyway, I was trying to be witty.
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Arrabbiata1
Mladin is a coward, and his calling Spies a ..... is so comically hypocritical that it has to be called out.
Jumkie
I saw the start of that debate and didn't want to get involved. For as long as I've watched this sport, the goal has been 500cc/MotoGP, but I understand that hasn't always been the case. I'm not bothered enough to make a passionate case for either side because you're comparing eras, which is impossible.
Arrabbiata1
The only thing inferior about WSBK was the money. Mladin was perfectly content to make what had been reported as equal to the salary that came along with a major factory ride in 500cc/MotoGP to cruise around the States and peddle Gixxers. To contend that the AMA was superior at the time was laughable. As much as it pains me to say it, but look at the big picture and tell me what AMA-champ Ben Bostrom did on that stage? A wildcard win and a hot summer two years later? (Espousing heresy on the altar of Boz is a confession-necessitating sin.) And Mladin's dominance coincided with Colin Edwards in his prime, same for Troy Bayliss, Troy Corser still had race-winning speed, Ruben Xaus was coming good, Neil Hodgson was good enough to be mentioned in this sentenceI kid, I like Neil, but I especially like winding up the Englishand Nori Haga was bouncing back and forth between Supers and GP. No disrespect to Miguel Duhamel, Doug Chandler, Anthony Gobert, Eric Bostrom, Aaron Yates, or Kurtis Roberts, but for one reason or another, none of them posed the same sort of threat to Mladin as anyone on the former list. Save for maybe Hodgson.
Mladin is a coward, and his calling Spies a ..... is so comically hypocritical that it has to be called out.
Jumkie
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Rising Sun would disagree with you, right Arrabi?I saw the start of that debate and didn't want to get involved. For as long as I've watched this sport, the goal has been 500cc/MotoGP, but I understand that hasn't always been the case. I'm not bothered enough to make a passionate case for either side because you're comparing eras, which is impossible.In general or specifically regarding Mladin not stepping up to WSBk? Mladin always regarded that as an inferior series to AMA. As I recall from the post in question, Sun was referring to Matt's ill fated tenure in GP on the Cagiva.
I strongly suspect Oost is aiming his comment at Mladin's evident hypocrisy as opposed to a reluctance to progress or seek a new challenge in the sport.
Perhaps we should all graduate to Moto Matters.The only thing inferior about WSBK was the money. Mladin was perfectly content to make what had been reported as equal to the salary that came along with a major factory ride in 500cc/MotoGP to cruise around the States and peddle Gixxers. To contend that the AMA was superior at the time was laughable. As much as it pains me to say it, but look at the big picture and tell me what AMA-champ Ben Bostrom did on that stage? A wildcard win and a hot summer two years later? (Espousing heresy on the altar of Boz is a confession-necessitating sin.) And Mladin's dominance coincided with Colin Edwards in his prime, same for Troy Bayliss, Troy Corser still had race-winning speed, Ruben Xaus was coming good, Neil Hodgson was good enough to be mentioned in this sentenceI kid, I like Neil, but I especially like winding up the Englishand Nori Haga was bouncing back and forth between Supers and GP. No disrespect to Miguel Duhamel, Doug Chandler, Anthony Gobert, Eric Bostrom, Aaron Yates, or Kurtis Roberts, but for one reason or another, none of them posed the same sort of threat to Mladin as anyone on the former list. Save for maybe Hodgson.
Mladin is a coward, and his calling Spies a ..... is so comically hypocritical that it has to be called out.
No sir, I think Austin's comment was squarely at Mladin's "reluctance to progress or seek a new challenge in the sport".Correct.
All this...AMA superior to WSBK at the time. No, Mladin's ability to earn more for doing less in the racing sense, yes
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Dude.... he is the poster child of a "racing mother". Sad, but how it is.
Geonerd
Tried their best... to move away?
3661831382997421
Poo Boy, you're back!
Can you please answer a question that has been nagging at me for some time? How the heck did you come to be such an emotionally damaged individual? Perhaps your parents failed you in some dramatic way?
OTOH, maybe Mom and Pop tried their best, but you were just born a sullen, miserable prick?
What's the story?
Tried their best... to move away?
