Should Ducati sack Hayden?

oh and not to mention in 2006 LCR was its FIRST year in MOTOGP class.

rookie rider in a rookie team and with lucio's suspension setups coming out of his ..., i think stoner did pretty fucekn good to acheive a pole and some podiums and few decent top 5 finishes.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ May 5 2009, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh and not to mention in 2006 LCR was its FIRST year in MOTOGP class.

rookie rider in a rookie team and with lucio's suspension setups coming out of his ..., i think stoner did pretty fucekn good to acheive a pole and some podiums and few decent top 5 finishes.
1 not some. and yes he did do well just not a super human performance imo.

1 podium in the race where he lead til last corner, his and cecchinellos third in premier class... in contrary hayden wasnt able to be victory contender even in one race in his rookie season despite had a seat on by far best bike ... not buying fanboys excuses about his lack of experience on european tracks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ May 5 2009, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>aus27. dont worry these guysm their logic are so flawed they cant see thru the forest.

trying to compare stoners year on a mini budget on the LCR, a team probably comprised of 10 people, suspension settings coming out of lucios own ..., and compare that to the full factory backing of honda and yamaha with millions of backing in japan providing with personal upgrades for them.

haha yeah good one

end of day

rossi, horhey, dani and casey are all superfast riders. they have been all anialating thier team-mates results or the rest of the field. the rest are good riders, but dont have that extra edge to them to make them great riders
Uhm... you're clearly ignoring the comparison of Stoner 06 to Dovi 08 'cause it doesn't fit you're argument... Dovi's numbers crush Stoners - on a similar satellite ride. Which persona's gonna feebly attack this one...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ May 5 2009, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Remember hearing Darryl Beatie on one of the motosport shows here in Aus talking about Hayden after one of the early tests, saying Ducati had been trying a different seup to take the front end bias out of the bike, and allow the back to slide a little more, and at that point seemed that Hayden was pretty comfortable on the bike.
Yeah, well at THIS POINT he ain't that comfortable, literally and figuratively.

dovizioso came nowhere near the victory, havent had a pole, just a consistent finisher (much better than hayden of course), good but showed no exceptional pure speed like casey who had a pole, had a challenge for the victory against factory hondas, ducs and yams...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27aus @ May 5 2009, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>dovizioso came nowhere near the victory, havent had a pole, just a consistent finisher (much better than hayden of course), good but showed no exceptional pure speed like casey who had a pole, had a challenge for the victory against factory hondas, ducs and yams...

I wish CEESAW was here....and Marbles,what a conflab we`d have.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRILL @ May 6 2009, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wish CEESAW was here....and Marbles,what a conflab we`d have.

They probably are mate.

Forgot about Marbles......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ May 6 2009, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They probably are mate.

Forgot about Marbles......

aliases,I shoulda thought of that

Apart from Stoners pit.....Fire ALL the engineers, mechanics, and tuners in the Ducati teams.... simple as that... too many good riders have been on those bikes... and they've all sucked??
no way...dont add up...

Casey Stoner: "Hayden needs confidence"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75075

he was dead slow in qatar practice before his q crash ... even test at that track before the season start doesnt help him so he is hopeless.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27aus @ May 6 2009, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>he was dead slow in qatar practice before his q crash ... even test at that track before the season start doesnt help him so he is hopeless.
Do you actually type your responses or do you just have the one or two that you use available for quick copy and paste?

qatar FP1

1. Casey Stoner Ducati 1m57.053s
13. Nicky Hayden Ducati 1m59.158s + 2.105s

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27aus @ May 6 2009, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>qatar FP1

1. Casey Stoner Ducati 1m57.053s
13. Nicky Hayden Ducati 1m59.158s + 2.105s

Days on the jobs at Ducati:

Casey Stoner - 932 days (October 16, 2006 - May 6, 2009)

Nicky Hayden - 233 days (September 15, 2008 - May 6, 2009)

Hmmm..... Why is Stoner quicker than Hayden on the same bike? Well, he has spent exactly 4 times as long with the company than Hayden.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27aus @ May 6 2009, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>he was dead slow in qatar practice before his q crash ... even test at that track before the season start doesnt help him so he is hopeless.

Try looking in the mirror sometime

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ May 6 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Days on the jobs at Ducati:

Casey Stoner - 932 days (October 16, 2006 - May 6, 2009)

Nicky Hayden - 233 days (September 15, 2008 - May 6, 2009)

Hmmm..... Why is Stoner quicker than Hayden on the same bike? Well, he has spent exactly 4 times as long with the company than Hayden.
You just served the troll a five course meal...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ May 6 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Days on the jobs at Ducati:

Casey Stoner - 932 days (October 16, 2006 - May 6, 2009)

Nicky Hayden - 233 days (September 15, 2008 - May 6, 2009)

Hmmm..... Why is Stoner quicker than Hayden on the same bike? Well, he has spent exactly 4 times as long with the company than Hayden.

years on job at ducati when casey won in qatar 07:

capirossi: 4 and few months
stoner : few months

dont come to me now with .... how 2007 was 800 cc first year coz loris had 9 years premier class racing experience compared to caseys 1

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27aus @ May 6 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>years on job at ducati when casey won in qatar 07:

capirossi: 4 and few months
stoner : few months

dont come to me now with .... how 2007 was 800 cc first year coz loris had 9 years premier class experience compared to caseys 1

What are you talking about? I can't understand what you are saying. Even if English is not your first language, you should be able to make sentences that make sense.

your above argument fails... hayden sucks in short words ... you should understand this, brat.