Not as amusing as you guys, with all other avenues exhausted/previous speculations proven wrong, being reduced to criticism of stoner's attitude or the sensitivity of his fans.
Sachsenring predictions, practice, quali
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Not as amusing as you guys, with all other avenues exhausted/previous speculations proven wrong, being reduced to criticism of stoner's attitude or the sensitivity of his fans.
Sachsenring predictions, practice, quali
Righto Talpa got it Stoner's .... because some one you know told you, Rossi is the greatest .... to ride a motorcycle,
DONE, FINISHED, NO MORE TALIKING! ! ! ! !
Lets not .... up another thread with this rubbish please. . . . . . . . . .
Lorenzo
Dovi
Stoner
Spies
Simo
Rossi
Righto Talpa got it Stoner's .... because some one you know told you, Rossi is the greatest .... to ride a motorcycle,
DONE, FINISHED, NO MORE TALIKING! ! ! ! !
Lets not .... up another thread with this rubbish please. . . . . . . . . .
Lorenzo
Dovi
Stoner
Spies
Simo
Rossi
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well, actually Mick no I don't have a son yet.......
The first time I saw Casey Stoner was at Phillip Island in 2002 or 03 when he was in 125cc and being interviewed by Daryl B and Mick D. From what I can remember he was bitching a lot even then, particularly about the Island and their brand new gravel traps. And Mick and Daryl just had a look of discontent and this rather stupid, young, heavily opinionated and mostly ill- informed twerp, who with his first chance to impress the Australian public on air was rather a major let down.
Sources that I know personally in Broadcasting have also spent time with Casey, not journo's as they are a different breed, but crew-who are mostly very decent people. These sources have also reiterated to me that the guy is a complete .... in person too.
As he can ride a motorcycle very well, I didn't really take these first two points as a major influence on my opinion, despite rumblings from the motogp world in 2006 (LCR) that he was a serious .... and a liability to Australia and its great history in this sport. And as Stoner's attitude in 2007 seemed greatly improved (while he was winning) I didn't really believe the rumblings at all. Then came 2008, particularly Laguna Seca where, when beaten, and beaten well despite having more pace, Stoner's true persona was revealed, one of being a complete and utter sore loser, not just a bad loser like the likes Biaggi, Kosinski or Sete but all new levels of idiotic behavior and far removed from Aussie's in the past, Just imagine Troy Bayliss in a race like this-would he have carried on like Stoner? Absolutely not! In fact he would have praised Rossi on his race-craft. The apology from Stoner was too little and way too late. I spoke to top class Australian riders at the time of this incident and the overwhelming consensus was that Stoner was an embarrassment. This type of behavior continues to surface to this day......
Then we had 'Tummy gate' in 2009, and the start of the brattish behavior in FP on towing. Which has now risen to all new levels of concern, alienating him from most of the paddock and making race-direction keep a close eye on him. The Randy incident was appalling, his jumping of the fence at Jerez was insane and self-destructive, not too mention the dumb-... comments in the garage for which he will never live down, the absolutely dangerous hounding of Nicky Hayden, and the most recently barging of Karol. I firmly believe that Stoner has serious psychological problems and needs some help to become more balanced, for at present he is dangerous to others on track. The reason I bring up Mugello, is of course to put .... on the twats, but also to highlight the disturbing nature of Stoners absolute discontent for his 3rd place, and little respect for the men who beat him. Gavin Emmett commented a few times on how 'unhappy' Stoner was post-race........chalk it up and move on! it was a podium! Nothing has changed since Laguna 08.
Of course there are some his fans, which are far worse than any fans I have encountered, the fans themselves I don't really blame for their bias, the fact that they don't really get chastised at all by those who like to claim a balanced view on these matters I find extremely hypocritical and even more bias- originating from a place of extreme negativity.
These are but a few of the reasons Mick, and lets face it, even you have said he is acting like a ...., its not hard to dislike this guy, he gives little reason to do anything else. Respect his riding, sure, but like, no chance. Beating Rossi more than most, well many would like to believe that this is the reason for the overwhelming dislike of Stoner, however Jorge has seriously de-bunked that myth. Stoner has had many opportunities to transform his public image, however he seems to be continuing to do the opposite........his race record is fantastic but his behavior belies him a far greater respect, and paycheck, and worst of all- potentially makes talent scouts re-consider Australia for their next riding 'representative'......
He could learn a thing or two from you....the master of bitching, sooking and moaning
I try not to predict, I said Stoner would steam roll through Assen and look at what happened....if not for Simo, who knows?
That said with Honda's improvements from last test things should be back to normal again, Honda's in front with JLo fighting them all.
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Yep I agree, sooner or later he's goning to work out how to stay on that thing and when he does look out.
By the way anyone remember stoners first season on the ducati, he couldn't stay on that, so much so we started calling him Crashey, look what he's achived since.
P.S
good call on the predicts, I don't reckon your far out.
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Yep I agree, sooner or later he's goning to work out how to stay on that thing and when he does look out.
By the way anyone remember stoners first season on the ducati, he couldn't stay on that, so much so we started calling him Crashey, look what he's achived since.
P.S
good call on the predicts, I don't reckon your far out.
It was on a Honda, but yeah, similar in some ways. However, it was Casey's rookie year, Simonchelli is already in his second year. Moreover, Casey was on a customer Honda, with a new team, with friction about set-up (sound familiar Toni?) and with less than ideal Michelins, whereas Simonchelli is on a factory spec Honda and with a control tire. Casey's 2006 season started out very promising, you could just smell the success was coming, and when it didn't materialize (or not enough), I think (and this an opinion) he started overriding his suboptimal equipment to the point where he would loose it quite often. Simonchelli on the other, has had no significant results yet.
But granted, there are striking similarities. For my part, I don't have enough confidence in Simonchelli to believe he's ever going to be good enough for a championship. Then again, I'm a pessimist, and by the end of the 2006 season even I as a fan became a bit sceptic about Stoner's future in motogp.
I'm going out an a limb here and predicting that RDP will finish this one and maybe even make it up the dizzyinf heights of 11th or 12th.
I think being a Peds fan will always leave me thinking 'What If?' at the end of the season. As year after year injuries alway seem to play a bit part but hopefully he can finish strongly this weekend, I'm hoping for a podium at the very least but It's hard to look past Stoner, Dovizioso and Lorenzo for the front three.
Having said that, I am actually yet to watch a full race this season yet but I have watched the highlights from most of the races.
Having said that, I am actually yet to watch a full race this season yet but I have watched the highlights from most of the races.
well, actually Mick no I don't have a son yet.......
The first time I saw Casey Stoner was at Phillip Island in 2002 or 03 when he was in 125cc and being interviewed by Daryl B and Mick D. From what I can remember he was bitching a lot even then, particularly about the Island and their brand new gravel traps. And Mick and Daryl just had a look of discontent and this rather stupid, young, heavily opinionated and mostly ill- informed twerp, who with his first chance to impress the Australian public on air was rather a major let down.
Sources that I know personally in Broadcasting have also spent time with Casey, not journo's as they are a different breed, but crew-who are mostly very decent people. These sources have also reiterated to me that the guy is a complete .... in person too.
As he can ride a motorcycle very well, I didn't really take these first two points as a major influence on my opinion, despite rumblings from the motogp world in 2006 (LCR) that he was a serious .... and a liability to Australia and its great history in this sport. And as Stoner's attitude in 2007 seemed greatly improved (while he was winning) I didn't really believe the rumblings at all. Then came 2008, particularly Laguna Seca where, when beaten, and beaten well despite having more pace, Stoner's true persona was revealed, one of being a complete and utter sore loser, not just a bad loser like the likes Biaggi, Kosinski or Sete but all new levels of idiotic behavior and far removed from Aussie's in the past, Just imagine Troy Bayliss in a race like this-would he have carried on like Stoner? Absolutely not! In fact he would have praised Rossi on his race-craft. The apology from Stoner was too little and way too late. I spoke to top class Australian riders at the time of this incident and the overwhelming consensus was that Stoner was an embarrassment. This type of behavior continues to surface to this day......
Then we had 'Tummy gate' in 2009, and the start of the brattish behavior in FP on towing. Which has now risen to all new levels of concern, alienating him from most of the paddock and making race-direction keep a close eye on him. The Randy incident was appalling, his jumping of the fence at Jerez was insane and self-destructive, not too mention the dumb-... comments in the garage for which he will never live down, the absolutely dangerous hounding of Nicky Hayden, and the most recently barging of Karol. I firmly believe that Stoner has serious psychological problems and needs some help to become more balanced, for at present he is dangerous to others on track. The reason I bring up Mugello, is of course to put .... on the twats, but also to highlight the disturbing nature of Stoners absolute discontent for his 3rd place, and little respect for the men who beat him. Gavin Emmett commented a few times on how 'unhappy' Stoner was post-race........chalk it up and move on! it was a podium! Nothing has changed since Laguna 08.
Of course there are some his fans, which are far worse than any fans I have encountered, the fans themselves I don't really blame for their bias, the fact that they don't really get chastised at all by those who like to claim a balanced view on these matters I find extremely hypocritical and even more bias- originating from a place of extreme negativity.
These are but a few of the reasons Mick, and lets face it, even you have said he is acting like a ...., its not hard to dislike this guy, he gives little reason to do anything else. Respect his riding, sure, but like, no chance. Beating Rossi more than most, well many would like to believe that this is the reason for the overwhelming dislike of Stoner, however Jorge has seriously de-bunked that myth. Stoner has had many opportunities to transform his public image, however he seems to be continuing to do the opposite........his race record is fantastic but his behavior belies him a far greater respect, and paycheck, and worst of all- potentially makes talent scouts re-consider Australia for their next riding 'representative'......
Do yourslef a favour ... Call 131901 today ... They are recruiting. Get yourself the necessary training and head over and join the coalition of the willing. Convince your superior that "operation Talpa: The rise of the destruction of the tall poppy's" is a goer. There must be plenty of tall poppy's over there for you to shoot down ... They haven't done anything to stem the flow of opium. Shooting down tall poppy's is a national pastime.
Let me guess ... Your neighbours are all named Jones and you can't keep up with them either.
Let me guess ... Your neighbours are all named Jones and you can't keep up with them either.
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well, actually Mick no I don't have a son yet.......
The first time I saw Casey Stoner was at Phillip Island in 2002 or 03 when he was in 125cc and being interviewed by Daryl B and Mick D. From what I can remember he was bitching a lot even then, particularly about the Island and their brand new gravel traps. And Mick and Daryl just had a look of discontent and this rather stupid, young, heavily opinionated and mostly ill- informed twerp, who with his first chance to impress the Australian public on air was rather a major let down.
Sources that I know personally in Broadcasting have also spent time with Casey, not journo's as they are a different breed, but crew-who are mostly very decent people. These sources have also reiterated to me that the guy is a complete .... in person too.
As he can ride a motorcycle very well, I didn't really take these first two points as a major influence on my opinion, despite rumblings from the motogp world in 2006 (LCR) that he was a serious .... and a liability to Australia and its great history in this sport. And as Stoner's attitude in 2007 seemed greatly improved (while he was winning) I didn't really believe the rumblings at all. Then came 2008, particularly Laguna Seca where, when beaten, and beaten well despite having more pace, Stoner's true persona was revealed, one of being a complete and utter sore loser, not just a bad loser like the likes Biaggi, Kosinski or Sete but all new levels of idiotic behavior and far removed from Aussie's in the past, Just imagine Troy Bayliss in a race like this-would he have carried on like Stoner? Absolutely not! In fact he would have praised Rossi on his race-craft. The apology from Stoner was too little and way too late. I spoke to top class Australian riders at the time of this incident and the overwhelming consensus was that Stoner was an embarrassment. This type of behavior continues to surface to this day......
Then we had 'Tummy gate' in 2009, and the start of the brattish behavior in FP on towing. Which has now risen to all new levels of concern, alienating him from most of the paddock and making race-direction keep a close eye on him. The Randy incident was appalling, his jumping of the fence at Jerez was insane and self-destructive, not too mention the dumb-... comments in the garage for which he will never live down, the absolutely dangerous hounding of Nicky Hayden, and the most recently barging of Karol. I firmly believe that Stoner has serious psychological problems and needs some help to become more balanced, for at present he is dangerous to others on track. The reason I bring up Mugello, is of course to put .... on the twats, but also to highlight the disturbing nature of Stoners absolute discontent for his 3rd place, and little respect for the men who beat him. Gavin Emmett commented a few times on how 'unhappy' Stoner was post-race........chalk it up and move on! it was a podium! Nothing has changed since Laguna 08.
Of course there are some his fans, which are far worse than any fans I have encountered, the fans themselves I don't really blame for their bias, the fact that they don't really get chastised at all by those who like to claim a balanced view on these matters I find extremely hypocritical and even more bias- originating from a place of extreme negativity.
These are but a few of the reasons Mick, and lets face it, even you have said he is acting like a ...., its not hard to dislike this guy, he gives little reason to do anything else. Respect his riding, sure, but like, no chance. Beating Rossi more than most, well many would like to believe that this is the reason for the overwhelming dislike of Stoner, however Jorge has seriously de-bunked that myth. Stoner has had many opportunities to transform his public image, however he seems to be continuing to do the opposite........his race record is fantastic but his behavior belies him a far greater respect, and paycheck, and worst of all- potentially makes talent scouts re-consider Australia for their next riding 'representative'......
All the above is of great concern - if that is you are one of the few convinced that Stoner actually gives a .... about how the public perceive him. I haven't seen much evidence of it. Have you?
So many race fans want their favorite rider to be the Marlboro Man incarnate, a bad-... etc. All my life when it came to manly men hero types I (and many others) have always admired the guy who isn't afraid to speak his mind, unwilling to fit neatly in a any niche or pigeon hole; someone who doesn't walk the corporate walk or concern himself about the opinions of the unwashed masses, a guy who when asked how many friends he has on Facebook, says: Facebook? You think I give a ....?
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Many of u have been asking about JB's wife. Things are looking a lot brighter now I'm pleased 2 tell u. JB is prob 50/50 4 germany I reckon
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Norah Head
Talp and Mbub are having a total breakdown at the moment, its one of two things:
the "Phantom moriing sickness "
or the usual .....
failure to see that not all fans are Rossi fans, ie. Stoner is presently leading the championship and Mbub and Talp are trying to tell the Stoner fans they should be feeling bad ................ about what!!????
Talp and Mbub are having a total breakdown at the moment, its one of two things:
the "Phantom moriing sickness "
or the usual .....
failure to see that not all fans are Rossi fans, ie. Stoner is presently leading the championship and Mbub and Talp are trying to tell the Stoner fans they should be feeling bad ................ about what!!????
Mdub usually has a sense of humour, I have little problem with him. The hard thing for talpa is that him hating stoner so much is actually enjoyable at least while stoner is going well.
Stoner has been somewhat off his game in the last 2 races, and the yamaha guys have been on theirs, so I hope he is resurgent at sachsenring. His tyres were obviously a problem at mugello but I am not sure I buy the over-inflation thing ; he has run out of tyres there before in 2007 when he was off the podium and behind alex barros on the satellite ducati who made a different tyre choice. He generally is not as good on softer tyres, but I didn't notice which tyres he ran at mugello.
Being a believer in not challenging karma I don't make predictions.
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Norah Head
Well yeah ..... but why doesn't he get that ?
And Mbub has been having a bit of a sook lately too, syre he's no Talpa but he is a sook
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