<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Jul 19 2009, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, he is now! (Dropped it with a few minutes left.)Damn, I hope this isn't going to be part of the learning curve to get into the top 5.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Jul 19 2009, 06:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That Hayden Canepa crash is one of the worst I have ever seen.
The amount of force from Nicky's back hitting Canepa's bike is tremendous.
I can't believe those 2 walked away. They should not be riding on this track
next year unless improvements are made to make it safer.
funny a few guys say this cos from what ive seen this year is that lorenzo has come out with the better setup of the two... in nearly every race
Really?? The results say otherwise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jul 19 2009, 07:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>really??? dont always work out that was does it... race managment and the rider does play a big part you know
there has been alot races this year where lorenzo has had a quicker pace...
like today i think lorenzo had the better setup of the to... but he is injured prob would have won if he wasn't
You don't win championships on if's and prob's.
So if it doesn't always work out than what is your point? Isn't being able to manage the race part of having a better set-up? I will agree that the rider plays a big part of it. The better rider wins most of the time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 19 2009, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You don't win championships on if's and prob's.
So if it doesn't always work out than what is your point? Isn't being able to manage the race part of having a better set-up? I will agree that the rider plays a big part of it. The better rider wins most of the time.
im just saying "some" people think burgess is come kind of magician and thats why rossi is so good.
what im trying to point out is that lorenzo's team/crew are just as good... both teams and crew's get the job done.
not you mate but some people think jb's spirit helps rossi on the track to ride around problems when hes not setup how he would like.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jul 19 2009, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im just saying "some" people think burgess is come kind of magician and thats why rossi is so good.
what im trying to point out is that lorenzo's team/crew are just as good... both teams and crew's get the job done.
not you mate but some people think jb's spirit helps rossi on the track to ride around problems when hes not setup how he would like.
Remember though part of the reason why lorenzo's team/bike are so good is the development work done by Rossi/Burgess. This seems like a very similar situation (To those old enough to remember!!) to repsol Honda 1996-97. MickD/Burgess (that name again) spent years getting that death machine rideable, then and Crivelle inherited the spoils as Jorge has......I remember some of the races to be similar to this year as well. Brno 97 Mick complained about feeling like a 'Tow-Truck'.....very funny. And we all know what happened to Crivelle after that.
Don't forget JB has 12 World Championships under his belt!!!!
6-VR
5-MD
1-WG
Not much he hasn't seen before I would imagine.....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Jul 19 2009, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Remember though part of the reason why lorenzo's team/bike are so good is the development work done by Rossi/Burgess. This seems like a very similar situation (To those old enough to remember!!) to repsol Honda 1996-97. MickD/Burgess (that name again) spent years getting that death machine rideable, then and Crivelle inherited the spoils as Jorge has
Not to mention how things work out when the Burgess and <insert world champion here> leave the team, we've seen that few times too.