<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Feb 7 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i thought most of you guys would be tired of this old .... by now
it's amazing how people can just keep dancin round & round & round.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 7 2008, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
it's amazing how people can just keep dancin round & round & round.
I think this debate may well go on for the next 5 or so years if Stoner wins again this year. Gonna be a llllloooooonnnnnggggggg llllllllllloooooooooonnnnnnngggggggg 5 years!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 7 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think this debate may well go on for the next 5 or so years if Stoner wins again this year. Gonna be a llllloooooonnnnnggggggg llllllllllloooooooooonnnnnnngggggggg 5 years!
dont ya just love the the off season
were all hopping with anticipation and bored out of our skulls waiting.
dont ya just love the the off season
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Feb 7 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is a stupid topic but I may as well throw in my two cents worth;
IF you want to compare Rossi and Stoner, you can ONLY compare them after their first two seasons in the premier class ... and that is all we can compare them on (as Stoner has only been there for two years) then their achievements are equal ... after two years they both had one premier class title! As other posters have stated ... if we are all here in a few more years we can make further comparisons! As at today ... we can't!
As for championships ... Valentino has five in eight years, Nicky has one in five years and Casey one in two years! Everyone else has sweet .... all!
As Jumkie says … drop the seven titles for Valentino ........! (He has five in eight years and that is a very enviable conversion rate and is better than the other two 2008 contracted riding champions) If we go down the seven titles for Valentino path then Pedrosa has three, Edwards two, Lorenzo three, Toseland two, Vermuelen one, blah, blah, blah!… WRONG! They have NONE like all the other riders on the grid (excluding the aforementioned riders). This is MotoGP and that is ALL that counts! I’d like to see someone try and argue that Max Biaggi wouldn’t trade his four 250 titles for one 500cc/MotoGP title … that would be a pointless discussion!
Rossi I known to be able to ride around problems, win races from the 10 place on the grid, chatter problems and so and so...and blah, blah, blah!
when I'll see Stoner do the same win races not on the fastest bike with grip problems and blah, blah, blah! then I'll say he is a good as Rossi!!!
I hope I wrote "not-a-pointless" thread
RIGHT???
IF you want to compare Rossi and Stoner, you can ONLY compare them after their first two seasons in the premier class ... and that is all we can compare them on (as Stoner has only been there for two years) then their achievements are equal ... after two years they both had one premier class title! As other posters have stated ... if we are all here in a few more years we can make further comparisons! As at today ... we can't!
As for championships ... Valentino has five in eight years, Nicky has one in five years and Casey one in two years! Everyone else has sweet .... all!
As Jumkie says … drop the seven titles for Valentino ........! (He has five in eight years and that is a very enviable conversion rate and is better than the other two 2008 contracted riding champions) If we go down the seven titles for Valentino path then Pedrosa has three, Edwards two, Lorenzo three, Toseland two, Vermuelen one, blah, blah, blah!… WRONG! They have NONE like all the other riders on the grid (excluding the aforementioned riders). This is MotoGP and that is ALL that counts! I’d like to see someone try and argue that Max Biaggi wouldn’t trade his four 250 titles for one 500cc/MotoGP title … that would be a pointless discussion!
Rossi I known to be able to ride around problems, win races from the 10 place on the grid, chatter problems and so and so...and blah, blah, blah!
when I'll see Stoner do the same win races not on the fastest bike with grip problems and blah, blah, blah! then I'll say he is a good as Rossi!!!
I hope I wrote "not-a-pointless" thread
RIGHT???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Feb 8 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi I known to be able to ride around problems, win races from the 10 place on the grid, chatter problems and so and so...and blah, blah, blah!
when I'll see Stoner do the same win races not on the fastest bike with grip problems and blah, blah, blah! then I'll say he is a good as Rossi!!!
I hope I wrote "not-a-pointless" thread
RIGHT???
Yeah, as a matter of fact you did write a pointless thread because most Stoner fans don't say Stoner is the better rider than Rossi. Krusty is pointing out that Stoner won the top class in his 2nd year as did Rossi. I didn't see him say that Stoner was a better rider than Rossi.
Seems all the Rossi fanboys get all in a tither because someone has been compared to Rossi. OMG - the shock and horror of it all!!
when I'll see Stoner do the same win races not on the fastest bike with grip problems and blah, blah, blah! then I'll say he is a good as Rossi!!!
I hope I wrote "not-a-pointless" thread
RIGHT???
Yeah, as a matter of fact you did write a pointless thread because most Stoner fans don't say Stoner is the better rider than Rossi. Krusty is pointing out that Stoner won the top class in his 2nd year as did Rossi. I didn't see him say that Stoner was a better rider than Rossi.
Seems all the Rossi fanboys get all in a tither because someone has been compared to Rossi. OMG - the shock and horror of it all!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 7 2008, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>dont ya just love the the off season
were all hopping with anticipation and bored out of our skulls waiting.
I weakened last night after a couple of glasses of nice mudgee shiraz and contributed to another rossi vs stoner thread
I was going to ask what your excuse was but I will accept anticipation and boredom
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 7 2008, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
it's amazing how people can just keep dancin round & round & round.
Ah you're a buzz kill man.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Feb 7 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi I known to be able to ride around problems, win races from the 10 place on the grid, chatter problems and so and so...and blah, blah, blah!
when I'll see Stoner do the same win races not on the fastest bike with grip problems and blah, blah, blah! then I'll say he is a good as Rossi!!!
I hope I wrote "not-a-pointless" thread
RIGHT???
So then what happened this year??? Why don't you respond to all the Rossi fans who said he didn't win because of the "problems" the Yamaha and tires had? Go for it, there is plenty of work for you to do here.
Ah you're a buzz kill man.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Feb 7 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi I known to be able to ride around problems, win races from the 10 place on the grid, chatter problems and so and so...and blah, blah, blah!
when I'll see Stoner do the same win races not on the fastest bike with grip problems and blah, blah, blah! then I'll say he is a good as Rossi!!!
I hope I wrote "not-a-pointless" thread
RIGHT???
So then what happened this year??? Why don't you respond to all the Rossi fans who said he didn't win because of the "problems" the Yamaha and tires had? Go for it, there is plenty of work for you to do here.
