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Rossi says relationship with Marquez “can never be recovered”

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Well, there we have it. He's insistent on carrying this .... forward for good. Any battle the two have is now going to be under a microscope with the microscope being on Marquez instead of the real offending party.

Unreal.

As I have said, he's the biggest piece of .... in grand prix racing currently.

Valentino Rossi insists his relationship with MotoGP rival Marc Marquez has been permanently ruptured by the events of 2015, and can “never be recovered.”

Rossi and Marquez were at the centre of controversy last season after the pair came to blows while fighting for position during the Malaysian Grand Prix at Sepang, causing Marquez to fall.

The subsequent penalty handed to Rossi relegated him to the back of the grid for the Valencia season finale two weeks later, the Italian losing out on the title to Yamaha teammate Jorge Lorenzo.

Afterwards, Rossi told media he believed Marquez had been acting as Lorenzo’s "bodyguard" during the title decider, having already accused the Honda rider of assisting his countryman at Sepang and Phillip Island.

Marquez's actions are something the seven-time premier class champion says he will “never forget.”

"After last season, nothing will be the same,” Rossi told Motosprint. “But our fight will be more genuine. Everyone can see what he really thinks".

“I said I won't forget what he did. It would be hypocritical to say that it's over and shake his hand, because it's not true. I'll never forget what happened.

"It would have been better that Marc had continued to focus on his own races. His intentions were clear, with the icing on the cake being the Valencia race.

“However, now it is no longer relevant. After what happened, our relationship can never be recovered. I like to do real things, not to pretend."
"I will be much stronger"

Rossi is adamant that the bitter experiences of last season will only provide further motivation for 2016, a year in which he must decide whether or not to continue in MotoGP.

“This means that this year I will be much stronger than last year,” he said. “I will be very hard to beat.

“I am very motivated, I’m happy to start another season and have another chance to fight with Lorenzo and Marquez.”
 
I doubt you would ever forget something like that either. What's he supposed to say, thanks for banging into me repeatedly until you crashed and then blame it on me so your buddy wins the championship?

Funny everything VR said above was true. Most of us appreciate honesty, something MM needs to work on.
 
Well, there we have it. He's insistent on carrying this .... forward for good. Any battle the two have is now going to be under a microscope with the microscope being on Marquez instead of the real offending party.

Unreal.

As I have said, he's the biggest piece of .... in grand prix racing currently.


You might want to see a shrink. Or at least try some Xanax.
 
I doubt you would ever forget something like that either. What's he supposed to say, thanks for banging into me repeatedly

You gotta love the bopper history revision. Banged into him repeatedly ? How about never touched him. It's all recorded if you need to go back for a refresher.
 
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Rossi seems to be very confident in his own power. Bold statements from his side, maybe based on some confirmations from the rulers and the tire suppliers.
 
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Oh, and who gives a .... if he gets over it or not. I think it's time Marquez just goes ahead and tells Rossi publicly to go .... himself, you get in my way we can go behind the trailer and settle this the old fashioned way.
 
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I don't have a problem with Rossi saying the relationship is unrepairable. My problem is he continues to express belief in this baseless paranoia, with the added affect that people of supposed impartiality are across the board unwilling to call ........ on him.

Question for anyone: can you direct me to at least ONE reputable English speaking journalists that doesn't believe partially Rossi’s accusations? Just one.


"I like to do real things, not to pretend." VR

Ah, I see, like say a peculiar meeting in your motorhome where you influence the most powerful official in the sport?
 
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I doubt you would ever forget something like that either. What's he supposed to say, thanks for banging into me repeatedly until you crashed and then blame it on me so your buddy wins the championship?

Funny everything VR said above was true. Most of us appreciate honesty, something MM needs to work on.

Dude, watch out, your system of values is turned upside down. Immediate action is mandatory!
 
I kind of agree with T Wreck, even if his account of what happened isn't accurate.

Regardless of who is to blame, (IMO, Rossi owns about 90% of the fault), but regardless of who, if I would have lost the championship that way, my fault or his, the relationship would never be the same.

To think that any of those egos on the track would "forgive and forget" and go grab a beer after is wishful thinking.
 
The "unrecoverable relationship" thing is predicated on that Marquez ...... VR out of a title. How is this mildly accurate or reasonable?
 
I don't have a problem with Rossi saying the relationship is unrepairable. My problem is he continues to express belief in this baseless paranoia, with the added affect that people of supposed impartiality are across the board unwilling to call ........ on him.

Question for anyone: can you direct me to at least ONE reputable English speaking journalists that doesn't believe partially Rossi’s accusations? Just one.


To answer your question....no.

I'm glad rossi has come out and said this. He says he is motivated, well I bet Marquez is even more motivated. He doesn't give a .... about no one.

I'm not really a Marquez fan, and he has done some very wrong things in the past, but in a dog fight at the end of the race he hangs it all out and I like that. I hope he takes it to the 46.
 
The first time they battle hard for a position late in the race, there is going to be a bunch of tight buttholes watching and waiting...
 
The first time they battle hard for a position late in the race, there is going to be a bunch of tight buttholes watching and waiting...
Good thing Dorna anticipated and effectively removed the penalty point system. No sense in eliminating the viewership sure to tune in hoping for another Sepang, me included.

Let's just hope Rossi doesn't ..... out of a dog fight on the track, again. :)
 
Sounds like the MotoGP God is already worrying about the season ahead. It's just more of his lame ........ mind games to try to deter anyone from giving him a race. He won't be happy until they give him his 10th title.
 
I don't have a problem with Rossi saying the relationship is unrepairable. My problem is he continues to express belief in this baseless paranoia, with the added affect that people of supposed impartiality are across the board unwilling to call ........ on him.

Question for anyone: can you direct me to at least ONE reputable English speaking journalists that doesn't believe partially Rossi’s accusations? Just one.

I realize I am not a reputable English-speaking journalist, but I don't believe any of Rossi's accusations of a plot, or of Marquez wanting to help Lorenzo. Of the journalists I know, about 80% don't believe Rossi's accusations of Marquez helping Lorenzo. Of the Italian journalists, about 90% do believe him. Spaniards are about 50/50, funnily enough.

I get the distinct impression that Rossi is using this to fuel his internal fire, and motivate himself. Marquez is pretending he just wants to make up and be friends, but he really wants to .... with Rossi. Been a few moments on track during testing, so I heard. Nothing major. That will come during the races.
 
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I kind of agree with T Wreck, even if his account of what happened isn't accurate.

Regardless of who is to blame, (IMO, Rossi owns about 90% of the fault), but regardless of who, if I would have lost the championship that way, my fault or his, the relationship would never be the same.

Of course it won't, and I bet off the record if you asked Marquez he would agree, but he isn't out using every press conference and interview as an opportunity to ..... and whine about Rossi.

I realize I am not a reputable English-speaking journalist, but I don't believe any of Rossi's accusations of a plot, or of Marquez wanting to help Lorenzo. Of the journalists I know, about 80% don't believe Rossi's accusations of Marquez helping Lorenzo. Of the Italian journalists, about 90% do believe him. Spaniards are about 50/50, funnily enough.

I get the distinct impression that Rossi is using this to fuel his internal fire, and motivate himself. Marquez is pretending he just wants to make up and be friends, but he really wants to .... with Rossi. Been a few moments on track during testing, so I heard. Nothing major. That will come during the races.

And this proves my above statement :)
 
I realize I am not a reputable English-speaking journalist, but I don't believe any of Rossi's accusations of a plot, or of Marquez wanting to help Lorenzo. Of the journalists I know, about 80% don't believe Rossi's accusations of Marquez helping Lorenzo. Of the Italian journalists, about 90% do believe him. Spaniards are about 50/50, funnily enough.

I get the distinct impression that Rossi is using this to fuel his internal fire, and motivate himself. Marquez is pretending he just wants to make up and be friends, but he really wants to .... with Rossi. Been a few moments on track during testing, so I heard. Nothing major. That will come during the races.

Krops, you are definitely a reputable journalist. Perhaps I didn't phrase my question properly, the point I am trying to make is that some part ("partially") of Rossi's accusations are believed, otherwise why would you believe Marquez is complicity? I honestly have yet to read a journalist of your profile lay blame solely on the perpetrator, which is Rossi. That is to say, you (and journalists of your profile) 'partially' believe Rossi’s account that Marquez was out to screw Rossi. Unless you've changed your mind, but I just read your op ed and you 'partially' blame Marquez, did you not? Not sure how you can say you don't believe Rossi's account that Marquez was out to screw him while believing Marquez was partially complicity, please help me understand what am i missing.


Those percentages you estimate are overwhelming. Quite amazing, given I read a lot of what's written in English by all the major journalists, I struggle to find one that has blamed Rossi exclusively for the Sepang /Valencia debacle. Of the 3 "protagonists" Lorenzo's thumbs down is the only fault I found with the other 2, which he apologized for. What exactly does Marquez owe an apology for? Yet, of this 80% of English journalists, they describe Rossi’s attacks as a "feud", the connotation being, Marquez is complicit. So, mathematically, a higher percentage believe Rossi's narrative that Marquez is 'partially' to blame. Otherwise, to borrow a word from Dennis Noyes, i think journalists who describe Rossi’s perpetrated attacks as a "feud" are being "irresponsible".

As far as Rossi using this for some motivation, I disagree. He really does believe this ........, and that is where the fire comes from.
 
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Krops, you are definitely a reputable journalist. Perhaps I didn't phrase my question properly, the point I am trying to make is that some part ("partially") of Rossi's accusations are believed, otherwise why would you believe Marquez is complicity? I honestly have yet to read a journalist of your profile lay blame solely on the perpetrator, which is Rossi. That is to say, you (and journalists of your profile) 'partially' believe Rossi’s account that Marquez was out to screw Rossi. Unless you've changed your mind, but I just read your op ed and you 'partially' blame Marquez, did you not? Not sure how you can say you don't believe Rossi's account that Marquez was out to screw him while believing Marquez was partially complicity, please help me understand what am i missing.

I have written repeatedly that Marquez was riding like a .... at Sepang. But I have also written repeatedly that Rossi asked for it by his accusations in the press conference.

What I mean by riding like a .... is that once Rossi caught him, he was riding at 100% to stay ahead of Rossi. No working together to try to catch the leaders, just a big .... you and some fantastic overtaking to be in front of Rossi. Rossi gave as good as he got, of course, and was riding like a .... just as much as Marquez. Then he lost his cool, and caused Marquez to crash.

That is what I wrote on the Monday after the race, and that is what I saw in the hundreds of times I have now seen the footage, and I haven't seen anything to persuade me things were any different.
 
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