Rossi: "I paid too much for last year"

JPSLotus · Sep 1, 2016

Don't know if anyone caught this beaut of a video with Rossi over on MotoGP's site:

Rossi: "I paid too much for last year"

He is blaming what happened down the stretch at Valencia being a reason for his lack of performance this year.

"Last year I came very close, but the season ended with an unfair finale - the nine time world champion said - I cannot forget it. The pressure and the energy that I put into last year demanded an extreme effort. In the last Grand Prix of the year I raced with a knife at my throat and if I had won I would have recovered the energy, but not losing. And I am paying for that this year too. Unfortunately the potential was there, but because of a bit of bad luck, a bit my fault, we are behind. With the disadvantage I have now, we can’t make any plans. We just need to ride race by race… although in sports you never can tell."

If he won at Valencia he would have recovered his energy?

Really? Like I said the dude is the worst pressure rider world champion I have ever seen.

Barbedwirebikerr · Sep 1, 2016

I want to make some sort of joke about he paid to much dirty dollars to not get the championship.

But i can't find the words.

povol · Sep 1, 2016

Rossi's problem if he wants to admit or not, is he is riding outside his comfort zone. Last year he tried to steal a title by being consistent because he knew he wasnt as fast as Lorenzo or Marquez. When it became apparent to him that strategy wasnt going to work out, he had a panic attack and the rest is history. Coming into 2016, he changed his approach and that is to beat Lorenzo and Marquez straight up. Even though he is running faster, the pace he is having to run is leading to mistakes that you rarely saw him make when he was better than the competition. Fast, but not good enough to not mistakes trying to keep up with superior riders. In other words, he is the Sete of this era.

Dr No · Sep 1, 2016

Which race towards the end of 2015 was it that VR finished looking completely shattered? More depleted than I've ever seen him. I think that played on his confidence.

povol · Sep 1, 2016

"Last year I came very close, but the season ended with an unfair finale - the nine time world champion said - I cannot forget it. The pressure and the energy that I put into last year demanded an extreme effort. In the last Grand Prix of the year I raced with a knife at my throat and if I had won I would have recovered the energy, but not losing. And I am paying for that this year too. Unfortunately the potential was there, but because of a bit of bad luck, a bit my fault, we are behind. With the disadvantage I have now, we can’t make any plans. We just need to ride race by race… although in sports you never can tell."

Sounds like a tired bitter old racer who i still think is going to try and derail Marquez's championship. His bad luck has a net total of around 11 points and the rest is rider error from pushing to hard. He gained 9 good luck points at Argentina when Vinales found the only damp spot on the circuit, and Ianonne went full ...... on his teammate. He should have finished 5th instead of 2nd.

AntG · Sep 1, 2016

I've never been much of a Rossi fan but this is quite sad to see, he genuinely believes he was hard done to last year still. Give it a rest lad, you've got NINE world championships, most of these guys would bust their ... just to win one.

povol · Sep 1, 2016

Dr No said:
Which race towards the end of 2015 was it that VR finished looking completely shattered? More depleted than I've ever seen him. I think that played on his confidence.

Aragon is when he sensed he was in trouble, PI is when he knew it was over.

JPSLotus · Sep 1, 2016

He approached Pedrosa after the race at Aragon and questioned why he was racing him so hard.

He believed Pedrosa should have pulled aside for him at that race.

In hindsight, even had Pedrosa acquiesced to his demand that he should not be raced, the position swap would only have given Rossi an additional 4 points. If the rest of the season played out as it did, he would have lost the title 330-329.

povol · Sep 1, 2016

JPSLotus said:
He approached Pedrosa after the race at Aragon and questioned why he was racing him so hard.

He believed Pedrosa should have pulled aside for him at that race.

In hindsight, even had Pedrosa acquiesced to his demand that he should not be raced, the position swap would only have given Rossi an additional 4 points. If the rest of the season played out as it did, he would have lost the title 330-329.

Wasnt that a battle for 3rd and 4th

JPSLotus · Sep 1, 2016

povol said:
Wasnt that a battle for 3rd and 4th

No, MM crashed out of the race on the second lap, so the two of them were battling it out for 2nd place. Well technically it was a 3 way battle since they finished 2 seconds off of JL. So yeah I suppose Rossi feels if he didn't have to battle Pedrosa he may have won the race. Maybe he would have, but no one should pull over the way they did at Valencia ever.

ananthakannan · Sep 1, 2016

povol said:
Aragon is when he sensed he was in trouble, PI is when he knew it was over.

Aragon, he was undone by the resurgence of Dani. After that all he hoped was putting Honda between him and lorenzo. However, the reverse happened, except Motegi. I would say, even till the race day at sepang, he was on top of his game plan. When lorenzo, missed the first row start, Rossi's plan was going fine. However, when situation puts Marc with him, minutes (or is it seconds) after lorenzo overtook him at the end of first corner, VR's worst nightmare starts unfolding. His figment of imagination, becomes a reality and can clearly 7 points eaten out of his lead. VR lost his cool and rest is history.

As a rider, it's always better to have as much positive thoughts as possible in your mind.

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GeniusAtTwerk · Sep 1, 2016

Definitely a disappointing season results-wise from Rossi in the context of his relative pace to the field compared to 2014 & 2015. Tight loss to Dovi & Marquez at Qatar where he had chances IMO, crash at Austin, crash at Assen and another farcical pit stop race tactically in Sachsenring cost him probably around 60-70 points to Marquez, and combined with Mugello and its probable 29 point difference, the championship is pretty much done (I'd give Marquez around 95% chance of winning the title atm).

Oh well, at least he is in a decent position to beat Lorenzo close to his prime as his teammate three years in a row at the age of 35-37, 9-11 years removed from his peak and 6-8 from his prime. That's pretty good IMO.

povol · Sep 1, 2016

GeniusAtTwerk said:
Definitely a disappointing season results-wise from Rossi in the context of his relative pace to the field compared to 2014 & 2015. Tight loss to Dovi & Marquez at Qatar where he had chances IMO, crash at Austin, crash at Assen and another farcical pit stop race tactically in Sachsenring cost him probably around 60-70 points to Marquez, and combined with Mugello and its probable 29 point difference, the championship is pretty much done (I'd give Marquez around 95% chance of winning the title atm).

Oh well, at least he is in a decent position to beat Lorenzo close to his prime as his teammate three years in a row at the age of 35-37, 9-11 years removed from his peak and 6-8 from his prime. That's pretty good IMO.

I think you are forgetting who the champion was last year. Plus, i believe if normality resumes, Lorenzo will beat Rossi this year.

Jumkie · Sep 1, 2016

"I raced with a knife at my throat..."

Very colorful.

Sour grapes make for an awful whine.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

GeniusAtTwerk · Sep 1, 2016

povol said:
I think you are forgetting who the champion was last year. Plus, i believe if normality resumes, Lorenzo will beat Rossi this year.

Oh I know Lorenzo had 5 more points at the end of the season, I just believe Rossi lost (much) more points than that on factors outside of his control in the last 2 and maybe even 3 races. I don't believe either lost points outside of their control before PI.

That's your belief, I think Rossi has a decent chance considering Rossi has had the better pace in at least 7/11 races so far, is leading on points and Lorenzo struggling on the wet nowadays.

michaelm · Sep 1, 2016

ananthakannan said:
Aragon, he was undone by the resurgence of Dani. After that all he hoped was putting Honda between him and lorenzo. However, the reverse happened, except Motegi. I would say, even till the race day at sepang, he was on top of his game plan. When lorenzo, missed the first row start, Rossi's plan was going fine. However, when situation puts Marc with him, minutes (or is it seconds) after lorenzo overtook him at the end of first corner, VR's worst nightmare starts unfolding. His figment of imagination, becomes a reality and can clearly 7 points eaten out of his lead. VR lost his cool and rest is history.

As a rider, it's always better to have as much positive thoughts as possible in your mind.

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Rossi was never, ever going to beat Pedrosa or Lorenzo at Sepang 2015. Lorenzo passed him on the track without any intervention from MM, and had been faster in every session other than by a few hundredths on the last lap of qualifying. His contretemps with MM at Sepang quite likely gained him 3 points, in that he scored 16 rather than the 13 which were more likely.

His tactics this year which are also failing for reasons already posted are an acknowledgement that his tactics last year ie coming through the field late were also not reliable.

As has also been said, I still don't understand the obsession with the 8th/10th title when he had already proved anything which he could possibly have been required to prove by anyone, pretty much everyone thought he was considerably better than Ago anyway, before all the petulance of his GP bike racing dotage.

Jumkie · Sep 1, 2016

GeniusAtTwerk said:
Oh I know Lorenzo had 5 more points at the end of the season, I just believe Rossi lost (much) more points than that on factors OUTSIDE of HIS CONTROL in the LAST 2 and maybe even 3 races. I don't believe either lost points outside of their control before PI.
.

Intriguing, please elaborate.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

michaelm · Sep 1, 2016

GeniusAtTwerk said:
Oh I know Lorenzo had 5 more points at the end of the season, I just believe Rossi lost (much) more points than that on factors outside of his control in the last 2 and maybe even 3 races. I don't believe either lost points outside of their control before PI.

That's your belief, I think Rossi has a decent chance considering Rossi has had the better pace in at least 7/11 races so far, is leading on points and Lorenzo struggling on the wet nowadays.

The factors outside of his control being that he wasn't fast enough at he end of last season in the dry against MM once he decided to stop crashing, Lorenzo, or Dani Pedrosa on last year's tyres once he regained his health.

Good luck and all credit to him if he had won in 2015 by being better in an unusual number of wet races, the conditions on race day are what they are and the same for all riders, but the series is an all condition series, they currently count both dry and wet races the same regardless of which riders are best suited by those conditions.

GeniusAtTwerk · Sep 1, 2016

Jumkie said:
Intriguing, please elaborate.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

Possibility of Marquez playing around with Rossi & Iannone possessing superior pace, allowing the man with the 4th best pace in the race to finish 2nd and the man with probably the 2nd best pace in the race, Rossi, 4th. (I actually did a lap-by-lap analysis of this and tried to post it in the "Will Lorenzo defend his title" thread but it didn't allow me for some reason

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Strong possibility of Rossi being denied the chance to chase after Lorenzo by Marquez, I know Rossi was slow in the beginning and was passed but he had just set his FL and pretty much equalled Lorenzo, despite having to pass Marquez, on the lap before the fireworks started

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strong possibility of Marquez ensuring a Lorenzo victory at Valencia by not passing and only fighting once during the race, re-passing his teammate

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a probable outcome of > 5 points advantage to Lorenzo relative to Rossi outside of his control.

Jumkie · Sep 1, 2016

Wait, so Rossi getting ahead and staying ahead of Marquez was "outside of his control"? So Rossi's pace is unquestionably honest but Marquez's is not?

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