Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
Then dont write absolute garbage like Marquez turned into him when the video is plain for all to see.
Then dont write absolute garbage like Marquez turned into him when the video is plain for all to see.
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
Golly I find myself in disagreement with Stoner too!
rossi should be banned for life for what he did.
Crashing on a gp bike is one of sports highest life threatening situations ... usually self inflicted or accidental. To deliberately force a crash like that ..... lifetime ban from me.
dorna pulling evidence and imposing a penalty on rossi that was not comensurate with the crime, was were I got off any boat dorna ever had.
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
I see the bopper spamming is back.
;rolleyes
I think they think the forum folk here are pavlovs dog.
;rolleyes
I think they think the forum folk here are pavlovs dog.
Joined Feb 2016
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Mongolia
Thanks for posting the slo mo clips. It's obviously a kick from Rossi. No overhead shots from helicopter needed. Rossi knew exactly what he was going to do to Marquez in that corner. He was going to run Marquez off the track, and when he saw that didnt happen, he deployed his kung fu to take Marquez down.
To be fair to Rossi, something towards which I am not necessarily particularly inclined these days, I think his intention was to run MM off the track so he could make a decisive break. The consequences of his attempt to do this, which he is not allowed to do anyway of course, were beyond his control and dependent on MM acting to evade him by running off track and not turning right to negotiate a right hand corner as has been said, which amounts to the same thing I guess ie the crash was entirely Rossi's responsibility. Same thing as Jerez 2005 and the Corkscrew 2008, except the latter was a riding error rather than deliberate although he was still careless of potential consequences imo. As I have said, I think he was expecting MM to run off track to avoid him as Gibernau and Stoner did in the previous incidents (or right across to the other side of the track in Stoner's case) and quite likely both would have done so in this circumstance as well.
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Joined Nov 2015
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A caravan on an island
A fair assessment and exactly what I reckon, not good for his image and I certainly lost a lot of respect for him. However like any crime the sentence has been done, life goes on.
I just think we are all stupid, cos we still havent learned "the rossi truth" yet.
It is in the yellow edition of the bible written by some dude calls moxley
Or as they say in tv land ............. the truth is out there
My point is that the smarter thing to do would be to run off, rather than turning into another rider, but Rossi should never have put him in the position to choose.
I think Marc was trying to continue to race. Going off the track would be stopping racing and he intended to continue.
I think he turned in anticipating that Rossi would be also turning to continue to race but sadly Rossi's brain had melted.
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It is certainly not in MM's mindset to back down/back off from a challenge, and hence quite likely not in his mindset that anyone would proceed on the assumption that he would do so.
It's easy to sit back and say Marquues should've done this or that. But at the time he was just as confused as all of us were watching wondering what the hell was happening.
There is still no valid argument as to why Rossi should've not been black flagged. His reasoning to race direction that he wanted to run Marquez off the track so he could make a get away should've resulted in an instance black flag.
This is only my opinion but from watching the race a few times it was obvious to me that Rossi towards the end was struggling to match Marc's pace, hence the two near high sides and the need to attack Marquez at the very next corner. Rossi saw the championship slipping away with another non podium finish and with Uccios words still ringing in his head he decided to try and cheat.
There is still no valid argument as to why Rossi should've not been black flagged. His reasoning to race direction that he wanted to run Marquez off the track so he could make a get away should've resulted in an instance black flag.
This is only my opinion but from watching the race a few times it was obvious to me that Rossi towards the end was struggling to match Marc's pace, hence the two near high sides and the need to attack Marquez at the very next corner. Rossi saw the championship slipping away with another non podium finish and with Uccios words still ringing in his head he decided to try and cheat.
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I don't think it's an unheard of move to hit a competitors front brake to take him out.
I can't know if Rossi did it on purpose but i do think that he did.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Your argument is the victim didn't avoid the perpetrator enough, therefore the victim is blameworthy.
Have you ever been walking on the sidewalk and someone walks right in front of your path, then you move to one side, that guy moves to same side puts his leg out and you collide? It's similar except the other guy was doing it on purpose, and caught you off guard. But here's the thing, something like that had never been done before, and the other guy was doing it maliciously. Focus on how many times Rossi looks over.
You're saying it's your fault (partly to blame) because you didn’t evade him successfully, fast enough, or figured out the other guy's intent to protect yourself. Rossi surprised him and everybody looking, surely you remember the confused and stunned feeling you had when you watched it unfold in 'real time.' Here it's slowed down to make it seem it happen over a minute when it was mere seconds. It looked like VR was going to turn back onto the track at any moment, but in fact him looking over was actively trying to unbalance Marc, Marc was positioning himself to race back onto the race line. It was a WTF moment, it took me as I'm sure everybody else several moments to figure out and realize what just happened, then like most sane people including the commentators, we waited for the black flag.
Rossi went on to collect a podium, that's as unjustified as what he did to Marc. It also should have included a suspension of license for at least 6 months. It's one of the most deliberately egregious acts we've seen, and it went almost entirely unpunished. If the CEO acting as your sort agent wasn't enough to illegitimize the sport, the failure to sanction a clear deliberate assault towards a competitor certain ended any legitimacy of the sport and Rossi's record.
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
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A caravan on an island
