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Rossi and Lorenzo not sharing anymore

ok curve we will see who the noob is come the end of the season i could put a lot of money that Spies wont finish 5th! let alone higher!

as for the whole rossi thing - again if you actually read his book you would be on more stable ground to comment about lorenzo as a person and a racer! you have listed off the people who have tried to get with Rossi but how many of them have had Rossi that badly worried? really?! how many have been his TEAMMATE (whole idea of working in a team?!) have you seen Rossi this worried?! see him make as many mistakes as he did last year?

your seriously under estimating Lorenzo, if he was as .... as you seem to think why havent Yamaha come out and totally ruled out the possibilty of them signing him for 2011 over Rossi? maybe because he isnt a total clown and you cant seem beyond your yellow tinted specs!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rowles @ Feb 7 2010, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ok curve we will see who the noob is come the end of the season i could put a lot of money that Spies wont finish 5th! let alone higher!

as for the whole rossi thing - again if you actually read his book you would be on more stable ground to comment about lorenzo as a person and a racer! you have listed off the people who have tried to get with Rossi but how many of them have had Rossi that badly worried? really?! how many have been his TEAMMATE (whole idea of working in a team?!) have you seen Rossi this worried?! see him make as many mistakes as he did last year?

your seriously under estimating Lorenzo, if he was as .... as you seem to think why havent Yamaha come out and totally ruled out the possibilty of them signing him for 2011 over Rossi? maybe because he isnt a total clown and you cant seem beyond your yellow tinted specs!

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see you're already back peddling....now Spies wont finish 5TH..first he'd be nowhere, now he has do be 5th to be anything
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never did i say lorenzo was a .... rider.. as a matter of fact i like the kid, he's one of the best atm..but crying he cant see Docs settings does not become him..So maybe it is YOU who is under estimating Rossi, and maybe it is YOU who needs to take off your ...... specs, clean out the eye cheese and invest in viseen, so get a clue. you want a bigger picture..well check out the picture Rossi has drawn up compared to Lorenzo since they started racing stupid..then come talk to us.
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your trying to compare somebody who has been in the elite class for 9 years to somebody who has been in it for 2 years?! you cant do it!

look lets get this straight - i dont hate rossi, i have huge respect for him and think he is a god, but i think that lorenzo has rattled rossi and that it isnt as clear cut about rossi just getting in lorenzos head like he has the others!

Lorenzo "statisticlly" is the second best rider out there. Rossi did get under the head of all the others but i think that your just throwing Jorge into that group far too quickly! and he is under rossis skin as much as rossi under his. he isnt crying that he cant have rossi's settings, in fact Rossi put up a wall for 2 seasons so that Jorge couldnt look at his bike, so its not like rossi has set up 2 bikes and Jorge has just got on one of them and raced!

as for the spies thing the way your going on about him anything less that 5th isnt anything!
 
Two things. First, Lorenzo is hardly the first rider to pose a threat to Rossi. Roberts Jr., Biaggi, Gibernau, Capirossi, Melandri, Hayden, Pedrosa and Stoner have all given the great one something to think about. Three of those names have actually nicked a title from Valentino. I was a Lorenzo fan until about midway through 2009. The constant bitching between him and Rossi got too much for me, but I don't doubt his abilities. That being said, he's still one in a long line of challengers and has yet to defeat Rossi in the grand scheme of things.

Secondly, your assessment of Spies is questionable in my opinion. You mentioned that he has guys like Pedrosa, Stoner and Dovi to contend with before he can even think about Rossi and race wins. True enough, but let's not forget that Spies has already beaten Dovi and did so on his first ride on the M1. Not bad considering Dovi had been on a factory Honda for the entire season. Additionally, the real gauge is going to be in Colin Edwards. Edwards has proven to be the most consistent rider of the non-aliens, certainly of 2009 and likely of the 800cc era or throughout his grand prix career with Yamaha. And he isn't too far off Colin's pace, or the aliens' either.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 7 2010, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Two things. First, Lorenzo is hardly the first rider to pose a threat to Rossi. Roberts Jr., Biaggi, Gibernau, Capirossi, Melandri, Hayden, Pedrosa and Stoner have all given the great one something to think about. Three of those names have actually nicked a title from Valentino. I was a Lorenzo fan until about midway through 2009. The constant bitching between him and Rossi got too much for me, but I don't doubt his abilities. That being said, he's still one in a long line of challengers and has yet to defeat Rossi in the grand scheme of things.

Secondly, your assessment of Spies is questionable in my opinion. You mentioned that he has guys like Pedrosa, Stoner and Dovi to contend with before he can even think about Rossi and race wins. True enough, but let's not forget that Spies has already beaten Dovi and did so on his first ride on the M1. Not bad considering Dovi had been on a factory Honda for the entire season. Additionally, the real gauge is going to be in Colin Edwards. Edwards has proven to be the most consistent rider of the non-aliens, certainly of 2009 and likely of the 800cc era or throughout his grand prix career with Yamaha. And he isn't too far off Colin's pace, or the aliens' either.

true and i cannot argue with facts, and im not going to try to. and Jorge isnt my favorate rider either, but like ive said i love rossi and he is without a doubt IMO the GOAT! but Jorge has definitly got VR worried, and so worried that he has had to resort to measures such as this, i appricate that he turned yamaha from laughing stock into litterly world beaters but its not going to be his forever, how did he feel when 'his' orignal honda beat him with Hayden on board, or how will he feel if he does go to ducati for 2011 (which i dont think he will) and if Jorge beat him on 'his' M1. Im just trying to get my point that maybe theres 2 sides to this rather than rossi adding lorenzo to his list

regarding spies again i cannot argue with the fact he beat dovi on his first M1 ride, its a fact i cant! but the reason i mentioned those specifically is because those are the riders right up there who are younger, once rossi packs it in or does the unthinkable and switches to fora 1 then they will be his challengers. i mentioned dovi because with the support and backing of factory honda thats kinda more help than satilette yamaha. again with Colin helping out that will indefinitly help and improve as they already look like they have bonded in the formation of team texas! and i think that it will help him a lot, although as they say once your on the track you have no friends!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 7 2010, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh look another noob wants to come in swinging troll
And in fact Spies will be somewhere this year..in motogp dumb dumb


blahblahblah....ok let me say it one more time for the ....... and slow children that just walked in....... the same .... has been said going on 11 years now..only the names have changed..Max, Barros, Sete, Nick, Perdro, Stoner, etc, etc,... now Jorge... they've all had their moments but in the end they are just notches on the bed post.. big ....... whoop lorenzo has two 250 titles.. so the hell what...go count the number of 250 champs that have done .... in GP, so .... his book, he's done .... to read about son! better men have tried to get into Rossi head, ALL have failed..

You kind of said it too fast bro… t h e - s a m e - s h i t - h a s - b e e n - s a i d - g o i n g - o n - 1 1 - y e a r s - n o w .

For example: "i dont think your giving Lorenzo enough credit. He is a double 250 world champion". So, Biaggi was a 'four' times 250 World Champion in a role, and achieved none against Rossi.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rowles @ Feb 7 2010, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>your trying to compare somebody who has been in the elite class for 9 years to somebody who has been in it for 2 years?! you cant do it!

But we certainly compare Rossi's first and second Seasons to Lorenzo's: 2000 Rossi was second, 2001 Rossi wan. 2008 Lorenzo was fourth, 2009 Lorenzo was second. There.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 7 2010, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Two things. First, Lorenzo is hardly the first rider to pose a threat to Rossi. Roberts Jr., Biaggi, Gibernau, Capirossi, Melandri, Hayden, Pedrosa and Stoner have all given the great one something to think about. Three of those names have actually nicked a title from Valentino. I was a Lorenzo fan until about midway through 2009. The constant bitching between him and Rossi got too much for me, but I don't doubt his abilities. That being said, he's still one in a long line of challengers and has yet to defeat Rossi in the grand scheme of things.

Secondly, your assessment of Spies is questionable in my opinion. You mentioned that he has guys like Pedrosa, Stoner and Dovi to contend with before he can even think about Rossi and race wins. True enough, but let's not forget that Spies has already beaten Dovi and did so on his first ride on the M1. Not bad considering Dovi had been on a factory Honda for the entire season. Additionally, the real gauge is going to be in Colin Edwards. Edwards has proven to be the most consistent rider of the non-aliens, certainly of 2009 and likely of the 800cc era or throughout his grand prix career with Yamaha. And he isn't too far off Colin's pace, or the aliens' either.

+1 as so often Austin, always a pleasure.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rowles @ Feb 7 2010, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im just trying to get my point that maybe theres 2 sides to this rather than rossi adding lorenzo to his list.

Lorenzo sounded pissed off in the interview remember: "I don't have anything to comment on this". And at the end of day one: "I began to improve my times even more and get closer to the first rider", first Rider being Rossi, or has Lorenzo forgotten his name?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rowles @ Feb 7 2010, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im just trying to get my point that maybe theres 2 sides to this rather than rossi adding lorenzo to his list.

And curve is trying to get his point that (not maybe) this has happened over a decade (11 years) and it all has ended in Rossi's favor, always adding Riders with even better achievements than Lorenzo to the list.

Bring on the toddlers!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rowles @ Feb 8 2010, 06:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo "statisticlly" is the second best rider out there.

How is Lorenzo "statistically" the second best rider out there?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Feb 8 2010, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How is Lorenzo "statistically" the second best rider out there?


I can answer that with logic .... not sure its statistical though:

Since Stoner is the best rider out there .... Rossi is obviously not 1st ...

The Rossifans refuse to believe their guy is second best ......

Ok fine!

well that makes Lorenzo second best ....

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 8 2010, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can answer that with logic .... not sure its statistical though:

<u>Since Stoner is the best rider out there .... Rossi is obviously not 1st ...
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The Rossifans refuse to believe their guy is second best ......

Ok fine!
oh tardozzi ...do you believe in santaclause as well?
 
Thats coming from the guy with the mocked up photo of "quintessential wishful thinking" as an avatar
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 8 2010, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats coming from the guy with the mocked up photo of "quintessential wishful thinking" as an avatar
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Still aplies though, do you believe in Santa? It sure seems so!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 8 2010, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats coming from the guy with the mocked up photo of "quintessential wishful thinking" as an avatar
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 8 2010, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats coming from the guy with the mocked up photo of "quintessential wishful thinking" as an avatar
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De nile is more than a river in egypt. Beside you know Adriana gets tired of sleeping with her wife. Every lady needs a big fat one every now and then.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 8 2010, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats coming from the guy with the mocked up photo of "quintessential wishful thinking" as an avatar
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all you've been saying lately is that stacey is the best rider out there (since tardozzi said it). come on!!
stacey is good,very good no doubt about it but he is not the best at the moment he still in second place along with lorenzo, when this guys reach his prime they might become the best riders, but as of now they aren't.
as for my avatar , as you said it ,is a mock up (just for fun) and it does not represent the reality, neither does the comments from crazy tardozzi . what if tomorrow he decides to say that he was wrong and he now thinks that alex deangelis is the best rider out there, are you gonna believe it so hard as you do with stoner?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Feb 9 2010, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>De nile is more than a river in egypt. Beside you know Adriana gets tired of sleeping with her wife. Every lady needs a big fat one every now and then.
Funny how you guys never put Adriana with Rossi. Is that because she doesn't have the right 'equipment' to turn Rossi on?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Feb 9 2010, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Funny how you guys never put Adriana with Rossi. Is that because she doesn't have the right 'equipment' to turn Rossi on?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Feb 9 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is widely accepted that Adrianna loves a good ...........

Funny, I kind of like the image of that especially if we are talking about the PI cheer squad! Better image than what is conjured up when thinking about Rossi and his cheersquad!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Feb 8 2010, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How is Lorenzo "statistically" the second best rider out there?

because he finished second? like i said cannot argue with facts yet i can bet somebody will try argue that stoner should be in there, but in 2009 lorenzo was second to Rossi, FACT
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rowles @ Feb 9 2010, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>because he finished second? like i said cannot argue with facts yet i can bet somebody will try argue that stoner should be in there, but in 2009 lorenzo was second to Rossi, FACT

I am ok with that as long as you are ok with:

2007 Stoner was 'statistically' the best rider in MotoGP and Pedrosa was 'statistically' the second best with Rossi 'statistically' only the 3rd best rider in MotoGP.

2006 Hayden was 'statistically' the best rider in MotoGP and Rossi was only the 'statistically' the second best rider in MotoGP.

Let me know if you are cool with that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Feb 9 2010, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Funny, I kind of like the image of that especially if we are talking about the PI cheer squad!

Exactly
 

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