Rossi and Lorenzo not sharing anymore

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 6 2010, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Finally admitting he's gay?

i really do doubt rossi gained anything significant from having access to jorge data. but i do think jorge won't do as well this year if its every man for him self.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J708 @ Feb 6 2010, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i really do doubt rossi gained anything significant from having access to jorge data. but i do think jorge won't do as well this year if its every man for him self.
To be honest with you, i don't think it will effect jorge much now because they already got plenty of data from last two seasons to setup his bike unless conditions changes completely on the race weekend compare to previous years.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 6 2010, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you think ben will be just a nother notch in the ol bedpost???

Curvie's two trains of thought are about to collide.  This should be fun to watch!



"Nomad – you are imperfect!"
"Error! Error!"
"Exercise your prime function!"
"Faulty! Faulty! Must sterilize! – STER-I-LIZE!" 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Feb 6 2010, 03:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lets agree on the fact that VR has done enough work to win 9 world championships......
No argument there. My point is simply that Rossi has such good development skills that he doesn't need to kill himself by putting in lap after lap to find what he's looking for. Not like a Nicky Hayden for example.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 6 2010, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Finally admitting he's gay?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Feb 6 2010, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Curvie's two trains of thought are about to collide.  This should be fun to watch!



"Nomad – you are imperfect!"
"Error! Error!"
"Exercise your prime function!"
"Faulty! Faulty! Must sterilize! – STER-I-LIZE!" 


i hope you make sense to yourself

dont be a hater


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 6 2010, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you think ben will be just a nother notch in the ol bedpost???

Sure i'm in hopes that Ben "Big Texas Gunslinger" Spies is up front and takes it to them all..but if Rossi is on song no one can touch him..its been proven time and time again.. some just cant see reality or have not been into the sport long enough to see i guess.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 6 2010, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i hope you make sense to yourself
Not much if a trek fan, eh?  


Seriously, if Rossi and Ben are battling for the lead, who ya gonna root for?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Feb 6 2010, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Seriously, if Rossi and Ben are battling for the lead, who ya gonna root for?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Feb 6 2010, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>To be honest with you, i don't think it will effect jorge much now because they already got plenty of data from last two seasons to setup his bike unless conditions changes completely on the race weekend compare to previous years.


we are yet to find out if Jorge is a sheep or can he really handle him self if the conditions were different.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 6 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>my friend, the same .... has been said going on 11 years now..only the names have changed..
Max, Barros, Sete, Nick, Perdro, Stoner, etc, etc,... now Jorge... they've all had their moments but in the end are just notches on the bed post

Indeed my friend!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 7 2010, 02:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Finally admitting he's gay?
He did .... them all good and proper!!! On the racetrack,

you cs boppers like the homosexual thing, bring it up a lot you do, fancy it this way do we?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 6 2010, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>



The exact point I was trying to make, smart ...!  


Give this a look, the section from 4 to 8+ minutes in.  (Caution, it gets painfully sappy toward the end.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjMEFK8FM0E

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 6 2010, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>my friend, the same .... has been said going on 11 years now..only the names have changed..
Max, Barros, Sete, Nick, Perdro, Stoner, etc, etc,... now Jorge... they've all had their moments but in the end are just notches on the bed post

+1

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 6 2010, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sure i'm in hopes that Ben "Big Texas Gunslinger" Spies is up front and takes it to them all..but if Rossi is on song no one can touch him..its been proven time and time again.. some just cant see reality or have not been into the sport long enough to see i guess.
We'll just have to see. Your basic point that historically being rossi-good would seem likely to be rare is undeniable, but you never know, and just taking the last 2 years lorenzo and stoner have been able to touch rossi in multiple races even if he has been peerless overall.

I think comparisons with toseland and his early gp form are not valid as ben's approach is obviously quite methodical. I think ben's achievement last year in wsbk was unique, and imo his form in wsbk was much better than toseland's who had a much lower win ratio, although he admittedly had bayliss to contend with, and the bike judging on early indications this year is nowhere near as exceptional as he made it look. On the other hand someone rossi-good might have been expected to have less trouble with mladin, but it also seems that he continues to develop as a rider.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Feb 6 2010, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The exact point I was trying to make, smart ...!  






Well to answer your question dumb ....!

"When" the time comes that Val and Ben are fighting for 1st.. I expect I will be rooting on Elbows to, get that ............!, Texas Tea Bag that ....... Italian .....!,"!!!REMEBER THE ALAMO!!!"
I expect I will be screaming at the Goat to, show Ben how its done baby!, school that .....!, show him EXACTLY why youre the G.O.A.T!!,
I expect each one to pullout all the stops, I expect edge of our seat racing, I expect some of the greatest battles in GP history..and I expect there wont be much crying on parc ferme after..


glorious

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 7 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"When" the time comes that Val and Ben are fighting for 1st.. I expect I will be rooting on Elbows to, get that ............!, Texas Tea Bag that ....... Italian .....!,"!!!REMEBER THE ALAMO!!!"

....



glorious    <--- (Fixed it for ya!) 

LOL!!

Don't worry, Bro!  
By the time Ben gets up to speed, we'll have a padded room ready and waiting.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Feb 7 2010, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL!!

Don't worry, Bro!  
By the time Ben gets up to speed, we'll have a padded room ready and waiting.

hey maybe it wont happen now but when Rossi retires Spies will me the man to beat..
If he's not so what, at least wast i'll have my new bopper-ie to replace the Doc

Spies will be nowhere this year! you seem to be not thinking about stoner, lorenzo, pedrosa, dovi all very good young riders who you seem to completly forget about!

As for the whole Jorge/Vale thing, i dont think your giving Lorenzo enough credit. He is a double 250 world champion. If you read his book you will see that he loves to develop a bike, and he is more than happy about the Rossi wall. I maintain my point that Jorge has got under Rossi's skin and Rossi doesnt like the fact that Jorge is as good as him

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rowles @ Feb 7 2010, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Spies will be nowhere this year! you seem to be not thinking about stoner, lorenzo, pedrosa, dovi all very good young riders who you seem to completly forget about!

As for the whole Jorge/Vale thing, i dont think your giving Lorenzo enough credit. He is a double 250 world champion. If you read his book you will see that he loves to develop a bike, and he is more than happy about the Rossi wall. I maintain my point that Jorge has got under Rossi's skin and Rossi doesnt like the fact that Jorge is as good as him

What he like or not is not the issue, he still has to prove he is good enough to develop a big bike.
The Aprilia guys never had much to say on the development. Most of them are 17 y. old anyway.

That rossi doesn't like the situation is a given. It IS unusual to have two true title challengers in the same team and two strong minded ones doesn't make it easier. Rossi can be given much of the credit for the M1 success and has invested many years in that bike. To have someone fast using the bike he developed is a hard pill to swallow, but it's doable. What is not acceptable to Rossi is Lorenzo having influence on the development of the bike that Rossi has made the most successful Yamaha ever. Lorenzo demand the power to change the bike and that could take it away from where Rossi want to go.

That's surly annoy Rossi. I know I would have been mad as hell.
Does Lorenzo get under his skin? I think that last interview at Sepang clearly showed who's worried.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rowles @ Feb 7 2010, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Spies will be nowhere this year! you seem to be not thinking about stoner, lorenzo, pedrosa, dovi all very good young riders who you seem to completly forget about!

As for the whole Jorge/Vale thing, i dont think your giving Lorenzo enough credit. He is a double 250 world champion. If you read his book you will see that he loves to develop a bike, and he is more than happy about the Rossi wall. I maintain my point that Jorge has got under Rossi's skin and Rossi doesnt like the fact that Jorge is as good as him

oh look another noob wants to come in swinging troll
And in fact Spies will be somewhere this year..in motogp dumb dumb style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif


blahblahblah....ok let me say it one more time for the ....... and slow children that just walked in....... the same .... has been said going on 11 years now..only the names have changed..Max, Barros, Sete, Nick, Perdro, Stoner, etc, etc,... now Jorge... they've all had their moments but in the end they are just notches on the bed post.. big ....... whoop lorenzo has two 250 titles.. so the hell what...go count the number of 250 champs that have done .... in GP, so .... his book, he's done .... to read about son! better men have tried to get into Rossi head, ALL have failed..