This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Rider X speaks at Assen

Joined Jun 2006
1K Posts | 0+
Europe
Mild temperatures, a Saturday race and a week off. Are you happy with Assen?
Happyish. It’s disgusting what they’ve done to the track. It’s best bit used to be where they’ve now put up a large shed which i believe is a museum. They’ve changed some curves, added references. It’s not the worst, it’s still nice, but nothing compared to what it was like in the past and now there’s better tracks around. The atmosphere is fantastic, that yes.

Will Simoncelli be nervous? The Spanish press has attacked him calling him a dirty rider.
One can’t say of Simoncelli that he’s an absolutely incorrect rider. He did something really stupid, but it was damaging mostly to himself. It’s just that there always seems to be a Spaniard involved. He’s got to be careful, but Donington was the first time he failed to control his aggression.

Well at Mugello however...
At Mugello what? He just did what we’ve all been doing for a lifetime. One could say, and we’ve all said it, that it’s not right to change the line, but we’ve all done it. But then, the Spanish talk?

Well yes, because what’s up with the Spanish?
Come on, they were the ones who invented sneaky moves on track. Nieto was great even because of that. He would lie flat on the bike during hard braking, or he’d pull himself upright as though to brake and meanwhile he’d have the throttle open. Those behind him really were risking a lot, but meanwhile he won and he was a hero.

Everyone draws water towards his own mill. The Spanish press...
The Spanish press is much worse than ours. They are born sensationalists. If they hear a rumour they immediately turn it into news. You guys at least use a conditional if you’re not sure. They’re just boom, they throw it in. Now, if Simoncelli is a dirty rider, Barbera belongs in jail. Things should be more moderate true, but there are no criminals here.

What will Melandri do here?
It’s hard to get out of such a complicated situation. Your head just goes off. The Ducati is not unrideable, but you’ve got to adapt to it. The limit is finding out you only have one riding style.

Which is?
Melandri is beautiful on the bike, that is to say, he used to be beautiful. A rider who does not brutalise his bike. It’s understood that the Ducati just doesn’t take itself into a bend, you have to send it in. And in order to get out of a curve you have to use the throttle, the weight of your body and the deformation of the tyres and the frame. You have to move on it, you have to live it. Maybe he’s not doing that enough. But he can get a second closer to stoner. The rest doesn’t matter.

He’s asking for changes to the bike which he’s not getting. What does it mean?
If he modifications he wants are the shortening of a lever by one centimetre, as I’ve been told, they are not modifications that will change the situation. Maybe he wants other things but since he doesn’t get them he ends up stuck on little things.

Elias however is not as tidy as Melandri. How do you explain it?
Yes, but his shortcomings are even worse. He’s never on the bike. He’s always out, always hanging on. Never in the saddle. He doesn’t load the front, he doesn’t load the rear, he doesn’t move lengthwise.

So?
So he doesn’t control the traction. He cannot guarantee it. Traction comes from that too. Then you’d have to actually be on it to be sure. The only one who’s doing his duty in every way he can is Guintoli. Only he’s got limits which are very far worse than a Melandri, or an Elias on good form.

Who do you see on it? Who knows how to adapt?
Apart from Stoner and Rossi? Capirossi has already done it. Lorenzo maybe. Better still Dovizioso, but...”

But?
But now very few would be willing to take the risk of finding out they’re not adequate. Hayden will go, however he’s no Stoner and never will be.

Canepa and Gibernau?
Well, anything can happen. With Canepa you’ve got to go slow. At Mugello he’s put in millions of kilometres, Barcellona is similar but in Brno he suffered and races are something else. When you take off in a large group you might as well have won the Superstock world championship but the realisty is another thing. Maybe I’m wrong. It seems to me he’s a good boy, and intelligent too.

And Gibe?

I know Gibe has taken some very short ridres, because his physique isn’t really up to it. He needs to prepare himself and try again. I’m not surprised he lapped in 51.7. Even Schumacher was the fastest on the Ferrari after a year out. Try doing 20 laps in 50.5 and you’ll see it’s altogether another story. You’re judging too much based on single laps, which don’t mean anything.

However Canepa has the advantage of being young, easily another one of the young guys of the electronics generations who aren’t having regrets...
It’s a common half misconception. If we want to talk about boring races, I agree. The tyres last, the electronics work, and if you’re not perfect with everything it takes you a lifetime. But if we want to say that the rider doesn’t count, that’s just .........

Stoner and Ducati are back to what they were last year?
And how should I know? At Donington it seemed like it. But it was a bit late. And then you’d have to see in the long term, on other tracks. It seems to me Rossi isn’t about to be caught up with. He just needs to control Pedrosa a little better.

Pedrosa who is a good rider!

He’s good yes, but he doesn’t have Valentino’s hard braking. Not even anywhere close.
 
interesting read bg, thanks.
<
 
Can we merge the two threads about Rider X? Can you close one and post the interview in this thread?

Thanks bikergirl, you're a great member. Sei Italiana?
 
Brava Bikegirl,
I find this interview is really interesting especially in the Melandri-Elias-Guintoli part, where I think RiderX is really spot on, to the point of betraying his insider knowledge of the red bike (X like CapireX
<
?)
BTW, the sentence you interpreted as "But he can get a second closer to stoner. The rest doesn’t matter" I think actually meant "But he can't be more than a second slower than Stoner, the rest depends on something else" i.e. the rest depends on his mind
<

Cheers
<
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jun 27 2008, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Brava Bikegirl,
I find this interview is really interesting especially in the Melandri-Elias-Guintoli part, where I think RiderX is really spot on, to the point of betraying his insider knowledge of the red bike (X like CapireX
<
?)
BTW, the sentence you interpreted as "But he can get a second closer to stoner. The rest doesn’t matter" I think actually meant "But he can't be more than a second slower than Stoner, the rest depends on something else" i.e. the rest depends on his mind
<

Cheers
<

yes i think so too. but the voriginal says " ma da Stoner può beccare un secondo. Il resto non c'entra". In that case it should have said NON puo. maybe a typo in the article. \however i agree with you as was very tempted to put that.
As for depending on his mind, valentino certainly seems to think so based on today's interview. I haven't yet decided who i think it is. i'd say it's rossi and loris both together.
<
 
Thank you very much for the rider x translations; both were fascinating.

Both, if they are separate individuals, seem fairly impressed with casey stoner whilst not going overboard with rossi comparisons; ie fair minded.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Jun 27 2008, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can we merge the two threads about Rider X? Can you close one and post the interview in this thread?

Thanks bikergirl, you're a great member. Sei Italiana?
Close enough.
I didn't put the two interviews on the same thread because they are likely to send the debate in very different directions. Still, if it's the case mayb e someone can do it? I can't. Or if I can I don't know how.
<
 
I found this article on the net, but it was in italian, so chance of know what it means. But now, I got it in English.
<
Thanks... OK, Grazie... Grazie..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Jun 27 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yes i think so too. but the voriginal says " ma da Stoner può beccare un secondo. Il resto non c'entra". In that case it should have said NON puo. maybe a typo in the article. \however i agree with you as was very tempted to put that.
As for depending on his mind, valentino certainly seems to think so based on today's interview. I haven't yet decided who i think it is. i'd say it's rossi and loris both together.
<


Yes it's quite intriguing trying to guess who X is
<


For sure X is someone who has the 'romagnolo' dialect as mother tongue, see words like 'boiata' and the like
<
I still think it's CapireX, or, if he is an ex-rider, than it could be Reggiani who is always there at the races as Italia-1 TV commentator with Guido Meda
<


I don't think there's a typo in the transcription of that sentence, again it's the way they speak in Romagna. "Puo' beccare un secondo" makes sense, meaning "He may be one second slower" where "but not more" is implied
<
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Brava Bikegirl,
I find this interview is really interesting especially in the Melandri-Elias-Guintoli part, where I think RiderX is really spot on, to the point of betraying his insider knowledge of the red bike (X like CapireX
<
?)
BTW, the sentence you interpreted as "But he can get a second closer to stoner. The rest doesn’t matter" I think actually meant "But he can't be more than a second slower than Stoner, the rest depends on something else" i.e. the rest depends on his mind
<

Cheers
<


CMIIW... is it you mean the guy who's talking here is Capirex?
Nice tough, I always like 'unordinary' news...
Thanks again for Bike girl
<
 
I won't argue Romagnolo grammar with you Jarno!!
<
I'm definitely not up to it.
As for who it is though, I don't know. The inside info about both Ducati and Yamaha is extensive. That's why I think it could be both. I also considered some of the ex racers. Hard to tell. Rider X is the new Stig.
<
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Jun 27 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I won't argue Romagnolo grammar with you Jarno!!
<
I'm definitely not up to it.
As for who it is though, I don't know. The inside info about both Ducati and Yamaha is extensive. That's why I think it could be both. I also considered some of the ex racers. Hard to tell. Rider X is the new Stig.
<


You can trust me in that... It's my only real mother tongue, after all.
<
<
<


X could actually be Rossi+Capirex you say... Hmmmm, your feminine intuition might be right, who knows
<
 
Interesting. Also funny how the interviews are so laid-back, not too serious. I have no idea who it is though.
 
Am I the only one that thinks this is a load of bull, this could be some jurno for all we know

Yes they are both good interviews but why the big secret on who the rider is?
If riders are going to be critical about other riders they should have the balls at least to name themselves otherwise why not sign up here and start posting, I believe that if a rider actually said this he would have been named thats why I think its some jurno in know
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Jun 27 2008, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can we merge the two threads about Rider X? Can you close one and post the interview in this thread?

Thanks bikergirl, you're a great member. Sei Italiana?

Bikegirl Italian? She's too perfect... She sounds almost Swiss, to me
<
 
Thanks also for posting this translation, too, Bikergirl. [Sorry the Top Ten was late again!
<
]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jun 27 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes it's quite intriguing trying to guess who X is
<


For sure X is someone who has the 'romagnolo' dialect as mother tongue, see words like 'boiata' and the like
<
I still think it's CapireX, or, if he is an ex-rider, than it could be Reggiani who is always there at the races as Italia-1 TV commentator with Guido Meda
<

Very intriguing, and very interesting.
<


While matters of Italian dialect are way out of my league, I get the impression that 'this' Rider X and the other one are not necessarily the same person. In this interview it seems more like an ex-racer, or possibly a composite of several people. Is this a (new) regular column in a magazine?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jun 27 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bikegirl Italian? She's too perfect... She sounds almost Swiss, to me
<

Inside knowledge on the provider of inside knowledge?.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jun 28 2008, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bikegirl Italian? She's too perfect... She sounds almost Swiss, to me
<

<
<
<

Moi? Perfect? Heehee...that's made my week Jarno. A bottle of Barolo is on its way. Or were you the Brunello guy?
<

I'm not Swiss, though practically 100% of my work is with the Swiss.
And as for insider knowledge, that's only about 1 rider and I only get it a few days before the rest of the world!
<