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Except there was a punishment.
Was there a punishment for Jerez 2005?
Was there a punishment for Laguna 2008?
Was there a punishment for anything he's done? Maybe there has been, nothing comes to mind for me at the moment.
There should have been punishment for Jerez 2005, that was dirty move but I don't think there was any need for punishment in Laguna 2008, all they had to do is tell vale to give the position back.
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Point was you saying Rossi would have been happy to be fined $5000 isn't what was being discussed.
I replied to GoatBoy that Casey was punished for the punch at Le Mans as he should have been, which is something VR got to skate by on numerous occasions.
Yeah Rossi would have been happy, but different situation at Sepang than Le Mans. He reaped what he sowed.
Situation doesn't matter, if any rider do some thing silly on purpose then they should get punished lot more severely. If RD had banned stoner in Le Mans then they had to ban Rossi as well, he wouldn't have got off lightly then.
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Situation does matter. That's pretty much how race stewarding has always been across many series.
Rossi did get off fairly lightly all things considered.
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I totally agree with Repsol on this. I have Rossi seen getting away with a lot but with what he got away this time is simply unbelievable. If kicking someone off his bike is only penalized by 3 drivers points, then you can better remove all sanctions. How are you gonna penalize someone that overtakes during for a yellow flag, or someone that starts when the lights are still red, or whatever other infringement of the rules ? You can't give someone a drive through because he started when the light were red; because kicking someone of the bike is only a 3 drivers points punishment. RD killed motorsport past weekend with their decision.
Are people even aware that Rossi doesn't start latest in Valencia because of kicking MM out of track ? He only got 3 driving points punishment. If he wouldn't have done other bad things in previous races, Rossi would have got no punishment. That's how ridiculous it as become.
Are people even aware that Rossi doesn't start latest in Valencia because of kicking MM out of track ? He only got 3 driving points punishment. If he wouldn't have done other bad things in previous races, Rossi would have got no punishment. That's how ridiculous it as become.
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Someone @ Repsol has lost it. MM torpedoed VR, for the whole world to see. Only delusional folks can claim that there was a kick. It is time someone deals with MM aggressiveness, someone on this forum said before that he is bordering autism, but if he can not manage to ride safely, he should not be on the track!.
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This is ........, did they threaten to pull out after Doohan and Criville trying to kill each other? When Dani took out Nicky? When Marquez misread his pit board as Kill The Lot when it actually said "Willarot"? or when he banjo'd Dani or Jorge into next week? I could go on. Repsol Honda call the shots, they will support their own riders regardless of how dangerous they ride, but cry when the Golden Boy is on the receiving end.
Didn't they start crying when a certain non Spanish rider with big hair, sponsored by a snack company bounced Dani off? But when Wee ........ does it, he is a national hero.
Bully boy tactics, we will go away with our millions if anyone roughs up the chosen one.
Conspiracies to get Rossi the title? My arse, know the real enemy.
Didn't they start crying when a certain non Spanish rider with big hair, sponsored by a snack company bounced Dani off? But when Wee ........ does it, he is a national hero.
Bully boy tactics, we will go away with our millions if anyone roughs up the chosen one.
Conspiracies to get Rossi the title? My arse, know the real enemy.
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https://www.change.org/p/director-d...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
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I trust in justice as well as I trust in people professionally and rigorously applying their responsibilities in the most efficient and impartial manner.
Therefore, I host the conviction that Mr. Mike Webb (MotoGP Race Director) and the FIM stewards are able to judge the incidents happened in the last Motogp race in Malaysia with this efficiency and impartiality.
To do so, I’m asking them to ask to HRC team and then review, the telemetry of Marc Marquez with special focus on throttle and brake data during the 14 overtakes with Valentino Rossi to compare it with the data from the Qualifying.
For sure, they will find conflicts (stops and/or not full throttle when Marquez was on front) that demonstrate the real intention of the pilot which really was to create a dangerous situation and to damage Valentino Rossi.
Doing that intentionally and with no real fight for the championship is repeated in Marquez over the years (other pilots suffered it before)
I ask for a penalty or, at least, a warning to make Marquez understand that this behaviors are not allow (for anybody) and that he don’t cheat to all Motogp fans during the last Malaysia GP.
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I trust in justice as well as I trust in people professionally and rigorously applying their responsibilities in the most efficient and impartial manner.
Therefore, I host the conviction that Mr. Mike Webb (MotoGP Race Director) and the FIM stewards are able to judge the incidents happened in the last Motogp race in Malaysia with this efficiency and impartiality.
To do so, I’m asking them to ask to HRC team and then review, the telemetry of Marc Marquez with special focus on throttle and brake data during the 14 overtakes with Valentino Rossi to compare it with the data from the Qualifying.
For sure, they will find conflicts (stops and/or not full throttle when Marquez was on front) that demonstrate the real intention of the pilot which really was to create a dangerous situation and to damage Valentino Rossi.
Doing that intentionally and with no real fight for the championship is repeated in Marquez over the years (other pilots suffered it before)
I ask for a penalty or, at least, a warning to make Marquez understand that this behaviors are not allow (for anybody) and that he don’t cheat to all Motogp fans during the last Malaysia GP.
No. Are you ? Comparing a race incident with a deliberate karatekick does make one think so.
Like it or not the only "deliberate" thing we witness here is how partial your point of view is.
Using "deliberate" as if it was the surest thing in the world... Nothing is sure here. Everywhere I go I just see/hear people hating on Rossi or people hating on Marquez, with 0% objectivity. I'm one of the few Rossi supporters who actually thinks the rossi move WAS indeed deliberate (though no one can ignore there's a LOT of analysts, and not only italian ones, who see the kick as a necessary reaction after the head butting by cabroncito).
but hey: "karatekick"?!? With that what you should mean is "moving your left foot over MM's bike after MM": 1) has been stalking you (without having done it previously to any other rider, especially not to JL) in ball-busting dirty borderline higly dangerous mode throughout the whole race, and then more specifically, in the incident situation 2) has put his helmet over your bike.
And also: let's pretend Rossi hadn't done the kick thing and kept up with the extreme fighting until he could. Honest: you really wanna say that probabilities that both 93 and 46 would finish race were high anyway? Personally, I'm sincere if I say the first thing I thought after few overtakes was: "no doubt, someone's gonna fall". People made such a big thing out of it cause of the slowing down, the harsh lookings and cause of how bad the foot movement looked, but the truth is, with Marquez riding that way, it was going to happen anyway. Rossi was too clinical in making sure he wasn't gonna be the one going down.
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Sorry, I don't speak Esperanto, I'm Scottish. I'm pretty sure Karatekick is a small town famous for it's Cossack warriors though.
Welcome to the forum, can I suggest Google translate? Will make it easier for you as well as the rest of us Boris.
Ciao!
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