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It means that the system is working.
The new rules that the riders agreed to means the same punishment to all riders, across classes.

That said, probably most people didn’t even know of Pol’s penalty because whatever he did wasn’t on TV. I only learned about it 20 mins ago when I was reading up on the news.


Absolutely agree ............ consistency is the key to getting punishments that work.

But was wondering out loud as there had been no mention of the incident (and I am yet to find footage) or the punishment ......... seems the focus does not move from row 2 of a race
 
I just hope he gets on something he can ride next year. I have no great love for Lorenzo as a person per se, He's a great talent who gave us some thrilling races. It's a shame that he doomed himself to two years of ignominy. I don't see much reason to dump on him. The price he's paid for his hubris has been a huge one.
Oh i don't know...12 million euros a year for farting around at the back seems a pretty good gig to me..
 
Jumkie gets it.
Just a wee light hearted dig at Danski asking similar on page 19.
We must both be getting to be big boys cause we didn't even fall out afterwards.
 
Qualifying last year. Vinales had the same problem back then but not with marquez

It's ok, they penalized Rossi 3 positions. Or was it .3 secs? I can't remember....

Oh yes I do.

The beautiful symmetry, the parallels, it's like a gift from the universe to expose Rossi and his fans.


The hypocrisy of Race Direction is embarrassing.

Its too bad Marquez isn't as shameless as Rossi. He would bring this up and all the other .... in press conferences.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
 
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It's ok, they penalized Rossi 3 positions. Or was it .3 secs? I can't remember....

Oh yes I do.

The beautiful symmetry, the parallels, it's like a gift from the universe to expose Rossi and his fans.


The hypocrisy of Race Direction is embarrassing.

Its too bad Marquez isn't as shameless as Rossi. He would bring this up and all the other .... in press conferences.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

You seem to forget Marquez has been racking up multiple rule infractions in a very short period of time. That goes into consideration when choosing whether or not to penalize someone.

You might get shown some leniency on your first DUI, but the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th time you should find yourself getting the book thrown at you.

The consequences for Marc's recklessness thus far have been light, but he's doing more than enough to earn penalties.
 
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I just hope he gets on something he can ride next year. I have no great love for Lorenzo as a person per se, He's a great talent who gave us some thrilling races. It's a shame that he doomed himself to two years of ignominy. I don't see much reason to dump on him. The price he's paid for his hubris has been a huge one.

Actually in his own words..."it was crazy to leave Yamaha, but it would have been crazier still to stay"

93 will start from p4 tomorrow, 3 place penalty for riding slowly on the racing line.

Because this is exactly what we need - put him back a row - what could possibly go wrong?...

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As has been mentioned, this is so commonplace in Moto3 that riders are to be relegated to the back of the grid. You can imagine someone new in race direction suggesting doing the same to Márquez then realising what he's just said post Argentina as all the heads in the room whirl round in his direction and Mike Webb just shakes his head.

But that's the thing - although it's the most physically exacting bike to ride, the RCV reminds me of the weapon that it was in 2015 and before. When Márquez in this form is so much faster than the rest of the field (4 seconds a lap at Argentina) we have a return to the situation in Moto2 - only with 270bhp 1 litre motorcycles.

Yesterday Tito ran slightly off line in practice and Marc went aggressively under hm - yes Rabat left the door ajar, but this was an illustration of Márquez's obscene approach speed - honing in on the same section of track, both going for the apex.

The incident with Viñales reminded me of Rea and Davies at Assen last year and was absolutely avoidable. Rather than put him back on the grid, they could apply a time penalty to the race, but with Pol also offending it all becomes a bit messy. Remember when we used to have aggregate race times for a restart?

Márquez will likely run medium front hard rear today, where I doubt whether those that gained advantage out of the softs yesterday will be able to usefully run them. Marc will quickly .... of, the pack will soon be broken within a few laps and the yawnfest of COTA will be over for another year.

The first three races are anomalies. I expect Márquez's dominance to be less pronounced given "the start of the ground war" Rainey. W (1989) ...sorry, I mean, once the season begins proper in Jerez.

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What exactly is a point-and-shoot bike?

Usually an excess of power and torque allowing the rider to brake deeper into the corner, square it off, pick the bike up and gun it down the straight. Going back, World Supers were often demeaned as being point and squirt in comparison to the greater finesse involved in two stroke GP which was more about corner speed and narrow powerband.

Today MotoGP also has one powerband...only it spans the entire rev range!!
 
Oh i don't know...12 million euros a year for farting around at the back seems a pretty good gig to me..

At the end of the day those Euros cannot buy back two lost years nor a championship. ;)
 
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At the end of the day those Euros cannot buy back two lost years nor a championship. ;)
Correct but at the same time, if he wasn't enjoying life at work it was time to move on.
The choice of no more titles or no more titles but with a mitt full of cash and a bit more tranquility is a no brainer

Edit: That's not to say he will never win one again. Just needs to get on the right bike again.
 
Damn, I hadn't thought of that; and on control tyres too. That's a hell of thing.

Yep the control makes it all the more impressive.

Marquez will likely be the only man to win championships on Bridgestone and Michelin control tyres which is extremely impressive when you consider how different the riders say the two are.
 
3 position grid penalty I've read.
Yeah, I was a little surprised. I didn't see it worth three spots for sure. One spot, maybe, since he only affected VM. Whoops typo. MV, not VM ;)

After the last race, and the uproar with VR, I think race direction is going to lean over backwards for awhile. I just hope it doesn't skew the whole championship.
 
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Marquez's warm up pace was unbelievable. Just hope someone somewhere finds something to get on terms with him. Otherwise the race will be over by lap 3.
 
Marquez's warm up pace was unbelievable. Just hope someone somewhere finds something to get on terms with him. Otherwise the race will be over by lap 3.

Pretty much. All the action will be between Crutchy, Vinales and Zarco - maybe Iannone if he can stay focused.
 

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