<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Feb 5 2009, 05:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden
Don't make me laugh!!!
Don't make me laugh!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Feb 5 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6ssZjjRyJw
Fast forward to about halfway to get to the Dovi / Hayden 'battle'
No...not epic at all....crap customer bike on crap tyres vs the former champion on the factory bike....
Time will tell...
cant wait till the season starts and we will have clear results and statistics...
Fast forward to about halfway to get to the Dovi / Hayden 'battle'
No...not epic at all....crap customer bike on crap tyres vs the former champion on the factory bike....
Time will tell...
cant wait till the season starts and we will have clear results and statistics...
Well I remember last year we had a poll to see how many thought Dovi would podium during the season and most people said no. Too inexperienced..crap bike..etc etc..but he did. I said he would and I have high hopes for him on the Repsol...provided HRC don't screw him over the way they did Nicky.
Oh...and how hot is Nicky in red huh?!
Oh...and how hot is Nicky in red huh?!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rgvneil @ Feb 5 2009, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don't make me laugh!!!
Laugh if you wish. He is the 2006 World Champion. I trust Honda didn't keep him on the factory bike from 2003 until 2008 because he wasn't a contender.
Laugh if you wish. He is the 2006 World Champion. I trust Honda didn't keep him on the factory bike from 2003 until 2008 because he wasn't a contender.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Feb 17 2009, 01:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Laugh if you wish. He is the 2006 World Champion. I trust Honda didn't keep him on the factory bike from 2003 until 2008 because he wasn't a contender.
So what, I'm sure Suzuki don't employ CV because he isn't a contender, but that doesn't mean he is one! Nicky has seriously contended for the title just once
So what, I'm sure Suzuki don't employ CV because he isn't a contender, but that doesn't mean he is one! Nicky has seriously contended for the title just once
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Feb 16 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Laugh if you wish. He is the 2006 World Champion. I trust Honda didn't keep him on the factory bike from 2003 until 2008 because he wasn't a contender.
He was given his initial contract (2003-2004) because Honda did not want to lose him to Yamaha and American Honda paid some of Hayden's contract. His 2005-2006 contract was based on the potential he showed as a rookie and when healthy in 2004. His 2007-2008 contract was signed while Hayden was in a title fight and Honda desperately wanted to keep their potential world champion (and the number one plate that goes with it) on a Honda and away from Ducati.
True that Honda didn't keep him because he wasn't a contender, but they didn't keep him because he was one either. Many feel his first contract was a gift and it should have been Edwards teaming with Valentino, his second contract was based on potential (similar to Dovi's current situation) and his final contract was to keep a world champion and the number one plate on a Honda. Keeping him around was convenient as there wasn't any other young talent they could put on the bike and watch go with the same potential Hayden showed. Besides, I don't think his wage demands at the time were that high and I'm not sure how long American Honda had a hand in his pay.
He was given his initial contract (2003-2004) because Honda did not want to lose him to Yamaha and American Honda paid some of Hayden's contract. His 2005-2006 contract was based on the potential he showed as a rookie and when healthy in 2004. His 2007-2008 contract was signed while Hayden was in a title fight and Honda desperately wanted to keep their potential world champion (and the number one plate that goes with it) on a Honda and away from Ducati.
True that Honda didn't keep him because he wasn't a contender, but they didn't keep him because he was one either. Many feel his first contract was a gift and it should have been Edwards teaming with Valentino, his second contract was based on potential (similar to Dovi's current situation) and his final contract was to keep a world champion and the number one plate on a Honda. Keeping him around was convenient as there wasn't any other young talent they could put on the bike and watch go with the same potential Hayden showed. Besides, I don't think his wage demands at the time were that high and I'm not sure how long American Honda had a hand in his pay.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 17 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Besides, I don't think his wage demands at the time were that high and I'm not sure how long American Honda had a hand in his pay.
i dont think kentucky is an expensive area
i dont think kentucky is an expensive area
How awesome is Bikergirl?!
Are you really married
Anyway, Qatar will show the truth. If Nicky takes a look at Casey's video and on-board, which I'm nearly certain he will, it should be pretty obvious what he needs to do. The chassis/swingarm is super stiff and should allow him to initiate TC incurring slides very very PRE-apex. Notice how Stoner's engine cuts in and out in this video.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoG...ay+3+Highlights
Don't forget that while Kalio beat him by a few tenths, he crashed when he was just starting to set a more consistent pace. I think Nicky had at least 5/10ths at Sepang if he hadn't dumped. Ducati's 90 degree engine and low displacement makes a flattened torque quite curve challenging and is the cause of the pumping. The electronics evoloution for Qatar should help.
He also has the option to do rear shock offsets (up to 45 degrees) to negate some pumping. Offsets would be a last resort, due to the bike's length
I'll be at Motegi, Assen, Laguna, and Indy cheering Nicky on. If he isn't on the podium by then, I'm throwing my kneesliders at his ugly goatee and rooting for 2010 Ben Spies. Upside is that WSBK will have a pretty sick Red Bull sponsored 1198!
Are you really married
Anyway, Qatar will show the truth. If Nicky takes a look at Casey's video and on-board, which I'm nearly certain he will, it should be pretty obvious what he needs to do. The chassis/swingarm is super stiff and should allow him to initiate TC incurring slides very very PRE-apex. Notice how Stoner's engine cuts in and out in this video.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoG...ay+3+Highlights
Don't forget that while Kalio beat him by a few tenths, he crashed when he was just starting to set a more consistent pace. I think Nicky had at least 5/10ths at Sepang if he hadn't dumped. Ducati's 90 degree engine and low displacement makes a flattened torque quite curve challenging and is the cause of the pumping. The electronics evoloution for Qatar should help.
He also has the option to do rear shock offsets (up to 45 degrees) to negate some pumping. Offsets would be a last resort, due to the bike's length
I'll be at Motegi, Assen, Laguna, and Indy cheering Nicky on. If he isn't on the podium by then, I'm throwing my kneesliders at his ugly goatee and rooting for 2010 Ben Spies. Upside is that WSBK will have a pretty sick Red Bull sponsored 1198!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Feb 17 2009, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoG...ay+3+Highlights
working vid
working vid
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Feb 5 2009, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's going to be a very tight championship. There are more genuine contenders than ever. There are six riders that can take this title, realistically.
Rossi, Stoner, Hayden, Pedrosa, Dovizioso, Lorenzo.
yeah this was my thought as well here. I don't think Pedrosa is as much a contender as the rest but it should be a very intresting year this year. All the drama that has conspired since the last race with the economy and that Fachime Obama in office now we should be ready for some good racin.
Rossi, Stoner, Hayden, Pedrosa, Dovizioso, Lorenzo.
yeah this was my thought as well here. I don't think Pedrosa is as much a contender as the rest but it should be a very intresting year this year. All the drama that has conspired since the last race with the economy and that Fachime Obama in office now we should be ready for some good racin.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slide @ Feb 17 2009, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>working vid
You are proving to be a very productive member. Keep it up.
You are proving to be a very productive member. Keep it up.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Feb 17 2009, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How awesome is Bikergirl?!
Are you really married
Anyway, Qatar will show the truth. If Nicky takes a look at Casey's video and on-board, which I'm nearly certain he will, it should be pretty obvious what he needs to do. The chassis/swingarm is super stiff and should allow him to initiate TC incurring slides very very PRE-apex. Notice how Stoner's engine cuts in and out in this video.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoG...ay+3+Highlights
Don't forget that while Kalio beat him by a few tenths, he crashed when he was just starting to set a more consistent pace. I think Nicky had at least 5/10ths at Sepang if he hadn't dumped. Ducati's 90 degree engine and low displacement makes a flattened torque quite curve challenging and is the cause of the pumping. The electronics evoloution for Qatar should help.
He also has the option to do rear shock offsets (up to 45 degrees) to negate some pumping. Offsets would be a last resort, due to the bike's length
I'll be at Motegi, Assen, Laguna, and Indy cheering Nicky on. If he isn't on the podium by then, I'm throwing my kneesliders at his ugly goatee and rooting for 2010 Ben Spies. Upside is that WSBK will have a pretty sick Red Bull sponsored 1198!
.... you, lucky. Very insightful post, though. Thanks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Feb 17 2009, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah this was my thought as well here. I don't think Pedrosa is as much a contender as the rest but it should be a very intresting year this year. All the drama that has conspired since the last race with the economy and that Fachime Obama in office now we should be ready for some good racin.
If Pedrosa isn't a serious title contender then neither is Hayden or Dovizioso. I'd love to see those guys succeed but surely Pedrosa has a leg up on both.
Are you really married
Anyway, Qatar will show the truth. If Nicky takes a look at Casey's video and on-board, which I'm nearly certain he will, it should be pretty obvious what he needs to do. The chassis/swingarm is super stiff and should allow him to initiate TC incurring slides very very PRE-apex. Notice how Stoner's engine cuts in and out in this video.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoG...ay+3+Highlights
Don't forget that while Kalio beat him by a few tenths, he crashed when he was just starting to set a more consistent pace. I think Nicky had at least 5/10ths at Sepang if he hadn't dumped. Ducati's 90 degree engine and low displacement makes a flattened torque quite curve challenging and is the cause of the pumping. The electronics evoloution for Qatar should help.
He also has the option to do rear shock offsets (up to 45 degrees) to negate some pumping. Offsets would be a last resort, due to the bike's length
I'll be at Motegi, Assen, Laguna, and Indy cheering Nicky on. If he isn't on the podium by then, I'm throwing my kneesliders at his ugly goatee and rooting for 2010 Ben Spies. Upside is that WSBK will have a pretty sick Red Bull sponsored 1198!
.... you, lucky. Very insightful post, though. Thanks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Feb 17 2009, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah this was my thought as well here. I don't think Pedrosa is as much a contender as the rest but it should be a very intresting year this year. All the drama that has conspired since the last race with the economy and that Fachime Obama in office now we should be ready for some good racin.
If Pedrosa isn't a serious title contender then neither is Hayden or Dovizioso. I'd love to see those guys succeed but surely Pedrosa has a leg up on both.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 17 2009, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>.... you, lucky. Very insightful post, though. Thanks.
If it's any consolation, Assen is a tossup
If it's any consolation, Assen is a tossup
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Feb 17 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If it's any consolation, Assen is a tossup
Now I feel much better... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif Enjoy yourself, should be a great time.
Now I feel much better... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif Enjoy yourself, should be a great time.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 18 2009, 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If Pedrosa isn't a serious title contender then neither is Hayden or Dovizioso. I'd love to see those guys succeed but surely Pedrosa has a leg up on both.
Yep, that's the way I see it... none of those three are title contenders!
Yep, that's the way I see it... none of those three are title contenders!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Feb 17 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How awesome is Bikergirl?!
Are you really married
Anyway, Qatar will show the truth. If Nicky takes a look at Casey's video and on-board, which I'm nearly certain he will, it should be pretty obvious what he needs to do. The chassis/swingarm is super stiff and should allow him to initiate TC incurring slides very very PRE-apex. Notice how Stoner's engine cuts in and out in this video.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoG...ay+3+Highlights
Don't forget that while Kalio beat him by a few tenths, he crashed when he was just starting to set a more consistent pace. I think Nicky had at least 5/10ths at Sepang if he hadn't dumped. Ducati's 90 degree engine and low displacement makes a flattened torque quite curve challenging and is the cause of the pumping. The electronics evoloution for Qatar should help.
He also has the option to do rear shock offsets (up to 45 degrees) to negate some pumping. Offsets would be a last resort, due to the bike's length
I'll be at Motegi, Assen, Laguna, and Indy cheering Nicky on. If he isn't on the podium by then, I'm throwing my kneesliders at his ugly goatee and rooting for 2010 Ben Spies. Upside is that WSBK will have a pretty sick Red Bull sponsored 1198!
Great post
Are you really married
Anyway, Qatar will show the truth. If Nicky takes a look at Casey's video and on-board, which I'm nearly certain he will, it should be pretty obvious what he needs to do. The chassis/swingarm is super stiff and should allow him to initiate TC incurring slides very very PRE-apex. Notice how Stoner's engine cuts in and out in this video.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoG...ay+3+Highlights
Don't forget that while Kalio beat him by a few tenths, he crashed when he was just starting to set a more consistent pace. I think Nicky had at least 5/10ths at Sepang if he hadn't dumped. Ducati's 90 degree engine and low displacement makes a flattened torque quite curve challenging and is the cause of the pumping. The electronics evoloution for Qatar should help.
He also has the option to do rear shock offsets (up to 45 degrees) to negate some pumping. Offsets would be a last resort, due to the bike's length
I'll be at Motegi, Assen, Laguna, and Indy cheering Nicky on. If he isn't on the podium by then, I'm throwing my kneesliders at his ugly goatee and rooting for 2010 Ben Spies. Upside is that WSBK will have a pretty sick Red Bull sponsored 1198!
Great post
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 17 2009, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So what, I'm sure Suzuki don't employ CV because he isn't a contender, but that doesn't mean he is one! Nicky has seriously contended for the title just once
There are too many positives and negatives in your first sentence. I'm not trying to be an arse, but it makes your writing hard to follow.
Anyway, Nicky's title win proves that he is not a contender, but a champion. He certainly repaid Honda's trust in him.
There are too many positives and negatives in your first sentence. I'm not trying to be an arse, but it makes your writing hard to follow.
Anyway, Nicky's title win proves that he is not a contender, but a champion. He certainly repaid Honda's trust in him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 18 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He was given his initial contract (2003-2004) because Honda did not want to lose him to Yamaha and American Honda paid some of Hayden's contract.
And because he whooped serious arse in the AMA as a teenager.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 18 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True that Honda didn't keep him because he wasn't a contender, but they didn't keep him because he was one either.
It's difficult to make the argument that he wasn't a contender when he actually won a title(in fact, your point is somewhat contradictory).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 18 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Many feel his first contract was a gift and it should have been Edwards teaming with Valentino,
How was it a gift? Sure, Edwards would have been a great choice too, but Hayden didn't land a factory Honda ride through luck. Choosing Hayden over Edwards was like a choice between a proven talent vs a promising prodigy. Ultimately, Nicky Hayden's world title proves that the Repsol ride wasn't a gift.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 18 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keeping him around was convenient as there wasn't any other young talent they could put on the bike and watch go with the same potential Hayden showed.
Marco Melandri?!
And because he whooped serious arse in the AMA as a teenager.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 18 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True that Honda didn't keep him because he wasn't a contender, but they didn't keep him because he was one either.
It's difficult to make the argument that he wasn't a contender when he actually won a title(in fact, your point is somewhat contradictory).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 18 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Many feel his first contract was a gift and it should have been Edwards teaming with Valentino,
How was it a gift? Sure, Edwards would have been a great choice too, but Hayden didn't land a factory Honda ride through luck. Choosing Hayden over Edwards was like a choice between a proven talent vs a promising prodigy. Ultimately, Nicky Hayden's world title proves that the Repsol ride wasn't a gift.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 18 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keeping him around was convenient as there wasn't any other young talent they could put on the bike and watch go with the same potential Hayden showed.
Marco Melandri?!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Feb 26 2009, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There are two many positives and negatives in your first sentence. I'm not trying to be an arse, but it makes your writing hard to follow.
Anyway, Nicky's title win proves that he is not a contender, but a champion. He certainly repaid Honda's trust in him.
That's tom's style. Its so he can cover all his base's so when pulled up on his bs he can put spin on it.
Anyway, Nicky's title win proves that he is not a contender, but a champion. He certainly repaid Honda's trust in him.
That's tom's style. Its so he can cover all his base's so when pulled up on his bs he can put spin on it.
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