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Qatar Official Test

bridgestone said no to 16"ers. I'd feel sorry for Marco and TE, but Stoner put a nice one in on hard to ride duc!!!

You know this is only testing, but is'nt it the last till one till the first race?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Feb 14 2007, 03:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>‘And from my view a bigger point right now is that we are comparing brand new 800cc prototypes (a year or less development) with 990cc prototypes (over five years been developed), meaning the times should really be compared in five years time of the 800cc era. It would only be fair, wouldn’t it?
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Don't be silly. In 5 years time the tire, electronics and chassis technology will have moved on so far that the 990's too could have picked up loads of time, the comparison will be impossible. Even now, it could be argued that with new generation 990 cc bikes the times would be considerably faster and as a result the 800 rule has done its job. I don't think that is the case yet, but soon enough technology will get to a point where more of the 990 horse power would be useful, and that would be very much more dangerous.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 14 2007, 04:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don't be silly. In 5 years time the tire, electronics and chassis technology will have moved on so far that the 990's too could have picked up loads of time, the comparison will be impossible. Even now, it could be argued that with new generation 990 cc bikes the times would be considerably faster and as a result the 800 rule has done its job. I don't think that is the case yet, but soon enough technology will get to a point where more of the 990 horse power would be useful, and that would be very much more dangerous.

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I get your point Tom, but still, how many racetracks have the 800cc machines been tested on? I mean, the 990cc database for all them years of development is way bigger, plus the 800cc are really ‘to be developed’ yet, they are just starting to get their pluses out of it and already are equaling times. Anyway, you’re right that improvements in technology from today till five years from now would make 990cc improve immensely too, but then if 800cc had been around for five years would only make a time comparison possible (times are what we were evaluating).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Feb 14 2007, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You know this is only testing, but is'nt it the last till one till the first race?
no. they have 1 more official test at jerez next week.
 
Yeah i guess your right. The thing is, these 800cc rules were brought about to make the racing safer. And from first inspection, they have failed badly because the bikes are going faster in the dangerous bits (corners). But what they have done is managed to bring chassis technology back in lone with engine technology. The 990's were bursting with power and physically speaking it was tough for the riders to hold all that in shape. But the new rules have aligned the situation so that now, although faster, the new bikes will be physically easier to control int he corners due to chassis being suitable and weight being lower, which should in theory be safer.
 
you both are correct. In terms of development and in terms of testing and safety. I didn't think about the chasis development and how that related to overall safety. Now I have to go think about other things to say.
 
A lot of people will tell you the laptimes are faster so it must be more dangerous, but i think there is more to it than that. I know its not the same, but think how much safer the 500's were at the end of the 90's when the chassis and tire design was in line with the engines, and compare that to the 80's when the engines were way ahead and the bikes were more beastly. Slower over a lap, but way more dangerous.
 
its always the same old story with colin.... just wait until the racin begins and the haydens/vermeulens begin t fly by!
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rossi will win at least 10 this season - for the first time in a long time he has something t try for again! oh by the way anyone know whether the last official test will be on tv like it normally is??
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nicky4'07 @ Feb 14 2007, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh by the way anyone know whether the last official test will be on tv like it normally is??
don't know. if they have the bmw award thing it will be. but i think last year was the last of that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nicky4'07 @ Feb 14 2007, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>rossi will win at least 10 this season
nahhh...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yamahamer-AL @ Feb 14 2007, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>12 then.
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no no no! he only won 5 last year. it would of been 6 had is bike not crapped out on him at lemans. so i'll say 6.... & that's it
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 14 2007, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>no no no! he only won 5 last year. it would of been 6 had is bike not crapped out on him at lemans. so i'll say 6.... & that's it
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Edwards Again Fastest On Day Two of Qatar Test!

Wednesday, February 14, 2007

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time

1 Colin Edwards II Yamaha Factory Racing Team Yamaha 1:56.296
2 Valentino Rossi Yamaha Factory Racing Team Yamaha 1:56.537
3 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC212V 1:56.712
4 Carlos Checa Honda LCR Honda RC212V 1:56.874
5 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati GP7 1:57.040
6 John Hopkins Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki GSV-R800 1:57.065
7 Shinya Nakano Konica Minolta Honda Honda RC212V 1:57.274
8 Randy De Puniet Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki 1:57.288
9 Kenny Roberts JUNIOR Team Roberts KR212V 1:57.504
10 Marco Melandri Honda Gresini Honda RC212V 1:57.591
11 Nicky Hayden Repsol Honda Team Honda RC212V 1:57.629
12 Loris Capirossi Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati GP7 1:57.698
13 Chris Vermeulen Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki GSV-R800 1:57.770
14 Alex Hofmann Pramac D'Antin Ducati GP7 1:57.999
15 Alex Barros Pramac D'Antin Ducati GP7 1:58.513
16 Makoto Tamada Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:58.610
17 Toni Elias Honda Gresini Honda RC212V 1:58.990
18 Sylvain Guintoli Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:59.138
19 Roger Lee Itoh Ducati Test Team 1:59.617
20 Andrew Pitt Ilmor 2:02.453


Edwards went much quicker than he did yesterday, Hayden had a minor crash, Jacque sat out with pain from his light crash yesterday and McWilliams decided a broken leg isn't a great way to go testing a new MotoGP bike. He sat out as well.

ENDS
 
I hope that the test is shown again, that would mean less time to wait. As for rossi, i predict more wins from him this year up to about 9, but more than 5 for sure.

Todays times are getting interesting.....................Guintoli is less than a second slower than Tamada, i think thats very positive for him. He should aim to be faster at the end of this season. I am excited by Nakanos progress, i was beggining to worry that he had fallen directly into a rut at Honda.
 
Hayden fell twice I think. Not sure completely.

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Would like to point out that they are getting closer to:

Circuit Best Lap: 2006 Casey STONER 1'55.683 167.423 Km/h
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Damn shame. If that bike ends up anything near competitive and Jeremy is fit, he'll go okay at a few places. I really want it to work out for him, the occaisional top ten isn't out of the question...I hope

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Feb 14 2007, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the occaisional top ten isn't out of the question...I hope

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I think that maybe it is out of the question
 
MotoGP Official Test: Qatar
1. Dani Pedrosa, Repsol Honda - 1'55.471
2. John Hopkins, Rizla Suzuki - 1'55.825
3. Valentino Rossi, Yamaha Factory - 1'55.954
4. Alex Hofmann, Pramac d'Antin - 1'56.315
5. Colin Edwards, Yamaha Factory - 1'56.371
6. Randy de Puniet, Kawasaki Racing - 1'56.753
7. Loris Capirossi, Ducati Marlboro - 1'56.807
8. Casey Stoner, Ducati Marlboro - 1'56.834
9. Alex Barros, Pramac d'Antin - 1'56.950
10. Marco Melandri, Honda Gresini - 1'56.980
11. Shinya Nakano, Konica Minolta Honda - 1'56.980
12. Makoto Tamada, Dunlop Yamaha Tech3 - 1'57.232
13. Toni Elias, Honda Gresini - 1'57.246
14. Nicky Hayden, Repsol Honda - 1'57.269
15. Chris Vermeulen, Rizla Suzuki - 1'57.365
16. Kenny Roberts, Team Roberts - 1'57.408
17. Carlos Checa, Honda LCR - 1'57.497
18. Sylvain Guintoli, Dunlop Yamaha Tech3 - 1'58.379
19. Shinichi Ito, Ducati TTT - 1'58.974
20. Andrew Pitt, Ilmor GP - 2'00.455
21. Olivier Jacque, Kawasaki Racing - 2'02.081
22. Jeremy McWilliams, Ilmor GP - 2'02.612

Today's times..............I've bolded what I think is a mis-print!
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man, did they take the handbrake of hoffmiesters bike or somthing? Those Pramac boys are sure loving having decent wheels under them for a change.
 

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