Pending Dorna Bailout (Rossi threatening not to race in Valencia)

at Valencia all riders should block Rossi as much as they can
great viewing Rossi kicking every fooker off the track while trying to get a win too

.... can Gibbers get a wild card ride

hitting the Apex sequel - Hitting the Riders the Art of Rossi

Sorry Renton a edit is due to the old pic from yrs back

Pigeon said:

at Valencia all riders should block Rossi as much as they can
great viewing Rossi kicking every fooker off the track while trying to get a win too

.... can Gibbers get a wild card ride

hitting the Apex sequel - Hitting the Riders the Art of Rossi

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Was thinking how many Honda's are available for one off rides


And saying Honda because Yamaha would not allow any, Ducati unlikely and the rest are already behind

It's Stoner who needs the wildcard.
That would completely .... what little is left of Vale's mind.

Jumkie said:

If there is a god Rossi will not only ..... out of taking the grid at Valencia, but will retire in the DISGRACE he deserves. He should always be remembered for DELIBERATELY running a fellow competitor off the track.

This is worse than doping, he has embarrassed the sport and openly defied it's principles and those of human decency, his points and this year's records of podiums and wins should be stricken from the books.

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To be fair, Willarot may see things differently, there's no denying that wee ....... has pulled equally stupid/dangerous moves. But as most on here (including a few asking for Vale's heid on a stick) were shouting, he should be banned, but he is the new golden goose! All hail Repsol.

Simoncelli was villified by the Spanish mafia for being a clumsy crashy guy, that wee prick Pedrosa refusing to shake his hand, he was never the silent assassin that wee ....... is. Even Pedrosa and Lorenzo have been greetin about him being dangerous (wag that finger Jorge, that'll teach him!") How many races has Jorge pulled over and allowed the pass rather than get knocked into next week? Forgotten about the brake sensor Dani?

Rossi was out of order on Sunday, but Marquez has no interest in who he hurts to win. Casey ran back to his Cavalier GL and his wife who looks uncomfortably like him, rather than face him on track.

And this is from a former Marquez fan.

Yes, knock Vale for his actions, but faced with a Repsol Patriot Missile, with form for injuring others, anyone of us could be a bit more aggressive than needed.

And his wee brother is ....., boringly ....., not even entertainingly ...... In fact he is so ....., he is ..... at being ...... Hopper watches him and says "that guy is ....."

And thier dad is a proper knob jockey, dancing round the pits like Rudolf Nureyev on coke cause the wee fanny got owned.

Crazy Joe for the title from now til the age of Aquarious

Dr No said:

It's Stoner who needs the wildcard.
That would completely .... what little is left of Vale's mind.

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Yeah, Stoner quoting Paul Hogan and crying over spilled (drunk?) milk will sort everyone out. Better dig up multi GP championship winning god Bayliss to rule over GP again too.

.... me, we should get Doohan back, theres a guy who encouraged a tow

basspete said:

And thier dad is a proper knob jockey, dancing round the pits like Rudolf Nureyev on coke cause the wee fanny got owned.

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Why is it that everytime I see Marquez Snr, I see Alberto Puig from a few years back?

basspete said:

Yeah, Stoner quoting Paul Hogan and crying over spilled (drunk?) milk will sort everyone out. Better dig up multi GP championship winning god Bayliss to rule over GP again too.

.... me, we should get Doohan back, theres a guy who encouraged a tow

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Bring back Foggy as well ............

basspete said:

To be fair, Willarot may see things differently, there's no denying that wee ....... has pulled equally stupid/dangerous moves. But as most on here (including a few asking for Vale's heid on a stick) were shouting, he should be banned, but he is the new golden goose! All hail Repsol.

Simoncelli was villified by the Spanish mafia for being a clumsy crashy guy, that wee prick Pedrosa refusing to shake his hand, he was never the silent assassin that wee ....... is. Even Pedrosa and Lorenzo have been greetin about him being dangerous (wag that finger Jorge, that'll teach him!") How many races has Jorge pulled over and allowed the pass rather than get knocked into next week? Forgotten about the brake sensor Dani?

Rossi was out of order on Sunday, but Marquez has no interest in who he hurts to win. Casey ran back to his Cavalier GL and his wife who looks uncomfortably like him, rather than face him on track.

And this is from a former Marquez fan.

Yes, knock Vale for his actions, but faced with a Repsol Patriot Missile, with form for injuring others, anyone of us could be a bit more aggressive than needed.

And his wee brother is ....., boringly ....., not even entertainingly ...... In fact he is so ....., he is ..... at being ...... Hopper watches him and says "that guy is ....."

And thier dad is a proper knob jockey, dancing round the pits like Rudolf Nureyev on coke cause the wee fanny got owned.

Crazy Joe for the title from now til the age of Aquarious

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No doubt immense hypocrisy from and about MM, by far the more dangerous rider out there, and arithmetically at least the winner of his first premier class title because of a stunt similar to the one under discussion.

Unless I have been mistaken in all the decades I have watched motorsports of all varieties, it is axiomatic that you are allowed to race for position by legal means, however. Even if MM was holding Rossi up deliberately, he was doing it legally on this occasion, and it was perhaps unwise for Valentino to have gone out of his way to piss him off before the race;that accusation about the previous race which MM actually won remains ludicrous.

Valentino is currently leading the championship, partly because Jorge screwed up at Misano in the rain, which was his mistake, but also because riders other than Valentino have beaten him in several races this year. The argument that he shouldn't be able to gain points back now by other riders beating Valentino is the one with which I have trouble. Valentino has had the option in both recent races of getting ahead of both MM and Lorenzo and staying there which would have obviated any problems.

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To be fair...

And his wee brother is ....., boringly ....., not even entertainingly ...... In fact he is so ....., he is ..... at being ...... Hopper watches him and says "that guy is ....."

And thier dad is a proper knob jockey, dancing round the pits like Rudolf Nureyev on coke cause the wee fanny got owned.

Crazy Joe for the title from now til the age of Aquarious

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Hahaha hysterical!
I cant get myself to offer a retort, this bit here was freaking funny.




"And his wee brother is ....., boringly ....., not even entertainingly ...... In fact he is so ....., he is ..... at being ...... Hopper watches him and says "that guy is ....."


HE IS ..... AT BEING .....

Well, I guess the lad is SHYTE then. Very well.
Hahaha hahaha hahaha

michaelm said:

No doubt immense hypocrisy from and about MM, by far the more dangerous rider out there, and arithmetically at least the winner of his first premier class title because of a stunt similar to the one under discussion.

Unless I have been mistaken in all the decades I have watched motorsports of all varieties, it is axiomatic that you are allowed to race for position by legal means, however. Even if MM was holding Rossi up deliberately, he was doing it legally on this occasion, and it was perhaps unwise for Valentino to have gone out of his way to piss him off before the race;that accusation about the previous race which MM actually won remains ludicrous.

Valentino is currently leading the championship, partly because Jorge screwed up at Misano in the rain, which was his mistake, but also because riders other than Valentino have beaten him in several races this year. The argument that he shouldn't be able to gain points back now by other riders beating Valentino is the one with which I have trouble. Valentino has had the option in both recent races of getting ahead of both MM and Lorenzo and staying there which would have obviated any problems.

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Regardless of how badly it came across (it did) Rossi was not suggesting that no-one other than WC contenders should be able to gain points at this stage in a championship, more that causing others still involved in the WC to gain/lose points by your actions is out of order. He defended Iannone against the Yellow Army (TM), don't forget

I admit to being very surprised at Rossi's outburst at the presser on Thursday, but did think something was odd on the day at PI after MM hit the nitrous for his fastest last lap & subsequent overtake. How could he have been struggling to get away from VR & AI (who both kept in touch with MM when he closed down JL towards the end) with tyre issues if those same issues were miraculously resolved on the final lap of the race? I didn't think too much more about it, but then I'm not fighting on the same racetrack with similar skills to MM. Still, dirty washing is best kept private.

For Rossi, getting ahead of MM was quite easy at Sepang, staying there for more than one corner was problematic. MM found the exact same issue, yet neither were showing as better at one particular corner/sector which can easily be the case with different bikes,

JPSLotus said:

I'm am completely certain if it got announced tomorrow that Honda was using their wild card on Stoner to race at Valencia, VR would meltdown in 2 seconds.

So would his entire fanbase for that matter.

Both would be positive outcomes.

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I don't think Casey, with his healing limb can make it to Valencia.

Reading that Rossi is thinking of throwing a childish temper tantrum by not queuing up at the Valencia grid makes me think that race direction may have talked themselves out of issuing a ride-through penalty; perhaps calculating that Rossi was still seeing the red mist he would not concede, forcing race Direction's hand to disqualify him.


Edit to add: So to save Rossi from himself they bailed him out by not bothering him by issuing a rightful immediate action his DELIBERATE use of his machine as a weapon.

I am out and out a Yamaha Fan, which automatically puts my allegiance towards Vale and Jorge.

However, this season was more of karma of valencia 2013, hitting Vale. In 2013, when both dani and Jorge raised concerns abt Marc's ride, Vale was always supportive. His only regret seems to be not having enough race pace to tangle in the fun (he called the dual with Marc). Valencia 2013, Jorge needs Vale to at least give a fight with Marc. He slowed down the front pack, still the master was having his dual with Alvaro and rode a lonely 4th place.

Come 2015, same Marc is helping Jorge and blocking Vale from even getting near Jorge. Vale complains about the style and Jorge supports Marc.

Role reversed

I am really happy that Yamaha rider is getting the title. Would be more happy, if the final race gets another cataluyna 2009 kinda duel.

99% chance valencia will be a snooze fest to the checkers for Jorge, VR will try but in the end the the championsip was decided by the little red douce 93 when he rammed VR and cried his way home...again.

yamaka46 said:

Regardless of how badly it came across (it did) Rossi was not suggesting that no-one other than WC contenders should be able to gain points at this stage in a championship, more that causing others still involved in the WC to gain/lose points by your actions is out of order. He defended Iannone against the Yellow Army (TM), don't forget

I admit to being very surprised at Rossi's outburst at the presser on Thursday, but did think something was odd on the day at PI after MM hit the nitrous for his fastest last lap & subsequent overtake. How could he have been struggling to get away from VR & AI (who both kept in touch with MM when he closed down JL towards the end) with tyre issues if those same issues were miraculously resolved on the final lap of the race? I didn't think too much more about it, but then I'm not fighting on the same racetrack with similar skills to MM. Still, dirty washing is best kept private.

For Rossi, getting ahead of MM was quite easy at Sepang, staying there for more than one corner was problematic. MM found the exact same issue, yet neither were showing as better at one particular corner/sector which can easily be the case with different bikes,

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I have been supporting Jorge Lorenzo since 2013 (when his rival was MM rather than Valentino), and hence obviously and admittedly do have a horse in this race.

However I have consistently rejected the notion that Jorge has had any "bad luck" this year. If despite Jorge winning more races Valentino is ahead of him by being better in an unusual number of wet races or by being better in conditions which suited his preferred hard tyre, Jorge's deficiency, Jorge's problem, deserved championship to Valentino.

However a quite widespread argument now seems to be that, particularly since the 10th championship is so much desired by both Valentino and his fans, with Valentino having the lead late season Jorge shouldn't be allowed to get the lead back by the same means Valentino gained it ie by he and other riders beating Valentino, simply because these are the last 3 races. I don't accept this, each race is its own event, and the points are the same in each race whatever the stage of the season.

If Valentino is fast enough he can win the title by beating Jorge, or for that matter Jorge and MM, in these races. In particular, he was in front of Jorge in this race, and could have obviated any problems by staying there. If he is incapable of doing this, or it does not suit his preferred race strategy/how he would like to employ his tyres etc, tough. MM may well be spiteful and petty, but while he is not allowed to ride dangerously and risk taking Valentino out, he is allowed to race for position legally, which is what he seemed to be doing

What ever points Rossi gets in Valencia they represent the sham that is Race Direction. Mike, would you like to debate this with me? Because you sound like Rossi's participation in Valencia is legitimate.