pedrosa always needs something to ..... about, and in this particular case it happened to be hayden. dani has a major napoleon complex. he is a sad, lonely, pathetic little man, and he knows it. he can ride a bike, and ride it well, but once he steps off the thing he is a miserable little ..... you can see it in his eyes, particularly when he speaks to people. if he had 1/10 the heart of hayden my attitude towards him would change, but I honestly think if he were forced to retire tomorrow he would simply count his money and laugh all the way to the bank.
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Quite simply, Pedrosa needs to win a race that involves racing other people before he slags off Haystack. He appears to be a 2 wheeled Mika Hakkinen, unbeatable from the front, but very beatable mid pack. As Schwantz would say, head to head with Vale he "falls apart like a cheap watch."
Casey has made him look ..... this year, the way he's going his career will be as remarkable as his man Puig.
Hopefully without the French air catch fencing, I dont wish injury on anyone!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(povol @ Nov 20 2007, 10:46 PM) [snapback]101652[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Asimo better watch his ....... mouth or he will get a CPU adjustment the old fashined way.I would say Nicky still has a hard on for that Dwarth even though he goes out of his way to hide it.
I doubt Nicky will be happy when he reads that interview!
Pedro is a fine jockey and Hayden a generous rider, but they do not get along that well. I think Hayden detests Pedro, who hates him in turn. He really didn't want Hayden to become champion with Honda in 2006, he would have preferred another Rossi year 1 thousand times.
This year, Pedrosa was dreaming of beating Rossi but Stoner beat them both. The fact that Hayden was never on the radar was little consolation for Dani. What will happen in the Honda team next year? It doesn't look good. Honda will probably be the best all-round bike again, but their riders seem set to really work against each other.
Asimo better watch his ....... mouth or he will get a CPU adjustment the old fashined way.I would say Nicky still has a hard on for that Dwarth even though he goes out of his way to hide it.
I doubt Nicky will be happy when he reads that interview!
Pedro is a fine jockey and Hayden a generous rider, but they do not get along that well. I think Hayden detests Pedro, who hates him in turn. He really didn't want Hayden to become champion with Honda in 2006, he would have preferred another Rossi year 1 thousand times.
This year, Pedrosa was dreaming of beating Rossi but Stoner beat them both. The fact that Hayden was never on the radar was little consolation for Dani. What will happen in the Honda team next year? It doesn't look good. Honda will probably be the best all-round bike again, but their riders seem set to really work against each other.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(J4rn0 @ Nov 20 2007, 05:48 PM) [snapback]101658[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I doubt Nicky will be happy when he reads that interview!
Pedro is a fine jockey and Hayden a generous rider, but they do not get along that well. I think Hayden detests Pedro, who hates him in turn. He really didn't want Hayden to become champion with Honda in 2006, he would have preferred another Rossi year 1 thousand times.
This year, Pedrosa was dreaming of beating Rossi but Stoner beat them both. The fact that Hayden was never on the radar was little consolation for Dani. What will happen in the Honda team next year? It doesn't look good. Honda will probably be the best all-round bike again, but their riders seem set to really work against each other.
Which doesnt bode well for Nicky.Its contract time and if Nick doesnt finish ahead of Asimo next year, i could see them look in another direction.Maybe Dovi if he keeps riding that turd the way he has.Next year could be a make or break year for Nicky which will make things intresting.
I doubt Nicky will be happy when he reads that interview!
Pedro is a fine jockey and Hayden a generous rider, but they do not get along that well. I think Hayden detests Pedro, who hates him in turn. He really didn't want Hayden to become champion with Honda in 2006, he would have preferred another Rossi year 1 thousand times.
This year, Pedrosa was dreaming of beating Rossi but Stoner beat them both. The fact that Hayden was never on the radar was little consolation for Dani. What will happen in the Honda team next year? It doesn't look good. Honda will probably be the best all-round bike again, but their riders seem set to really work against each other.
Which doesnt bode well for Nicky.Its contract time and if Nick doesnt finish ahead of Asimo next year, i could see them look in another direction.Maybe Dovi if he keeps riding that turd the way he has.Next year could be a make or break year for Nicky which will make things intresting.
My my my.
a few of you guys need some Orbit gum.
<u>Pedrosa is arrogant but getting his but kicked is a bit harsh.</u>
Some one in another thread mentioned that why CEII's boards was shut down.... I was on there and big talk like that is a good reason why the board shut down.
So my question where are the native spanish/italian speakers.
Someone should be able to piece together the interview better than the internet translators...
An interesting comment by Deadrosa, cough, Pedrosa:
We knew that the Ducati had made a good bike when I was still riding the 990 in Brno, and I was next to the Ducati on the straight. My 990 wasn't faster than their 800cc.
Is this BS?
Anyway, Pedrosa is a total ........ He basically ruined the first part of Hayden's season with the Estoril incident(which smashed Hayden's shoulder, which made him miss valuable testing, and put him in bad shape for the first few races of 07), almost cost Hayden the title, and he still talks trash.
He has no shame!
They asked him:
If they give you the opportunity to separate the garage, would you accept it?
Pedrosa: Yes.
Also:
"The problem was that the champion didn't have any real idea about how to develop a motorcycle.
SOB..
<u>BTW: The head of HRC once said Hayden was the BEST development rider after Freddie Spencer. I know who to believe...</u>
We knew that the Ducati had made a good bike when I was still riding the 990 in Brno, and I was next to the Ducati on the straight. My 990 wasn't faster than their 800cc.
Is this BS?
Anyway, Pedrosa is a total ........ He basically ruined the first part of Hayden's season with the Estoril incident(which smashed Hayden's shoulder, which made him miss valuable testing, and put him in bad shape for the first few races of 07), almost cost Hayden the title, and he still talks trash.
He has no shame!
They asked him:
If they give you the opportunity to separate the garage, would you accept it?
Pedrosa: Yes.
Also:
"The problem was that the champion didn't have any real idea about how to develop a motorcycle.
SOB..
<u>BTW: The head of HRC once said Hayden was the BEST development rider after Freddie Spencer. I know who to believe...</u>
"Better single than badly accompanied"
Interview to Dani Pedrosa, world-wide runner-up of MotoGP
Elvira González - 09/11/2007 03:00
The past Sunday finished in circuit Ricardo Tormo de Cheste the World-wide one of speed with triumph of Dani Pedrosa, a result that combined with retirement by problems of motor in its Yamaha de Valentino Rossi allowed to finish the season him like world-wide runner-up. In his second year in MotoGP it has signed two victories, two second seats and three third, such podios ones, eight, and triumphs, two, that in the season of its debut. The runner-up analyzes therefore the season for Sport World.
In the interview that I made to him just before initiating the World-wide one it said ' to east year the better ones will gain piles of dineró and thus we titled it Saw come what was going to happen?
Good, more or less. The truth is that we have had surprises. Then we already knew that it was going to be difficult, although not as much as it
has been. Also we knew that Ducati had done good moto because the first time that taught in Brno I to it still I ran with the thousands and I put myself alongside in the straight line to compare it. My thousands did not run more than their 800. We already intuited that that moto would be good.
When it saw clear that its Sling of 800cc was not sufficiently competitive?
In Mugello, already I saw there that she was not sufficiently competitive in all a race. We had gone fast in training and in the end it happened the same, to half of race always went me for back. Moto was fast in a return, but already và that we had handicap.
And at what moment of the season it saw that the title was lost?
Between Laguna Seca and Brno already he was definitive for us.
It has been the most difficult year of his race?
Possibly, by the fact to have to fight to me with engineers to improve this much moto, many meetings so that the things flowed better inside and the information was faster and the things became. And also because the results have not accompanied when everybody was expected it. And not only because it also waited for the liking to it but by the atmosphere that was within the equipment. But we have learned of all this.
When oÃa or read that this moto was done to its measurement what thought on the inside?
Pués that perhaps did not know as much, and I have looked for the way more politically correct to say it.
The fight spirit did not lose it at any moment because until the last Great Prize he was fighting to gain races but what he happened through his head during all these months?
Many things because we have had so many problems that you are centered in things, you forget others and thus you go from a site to another one. The vision was not so global at certain moments, with which the thoughts were changing, first he was moto, soon the tires, very concentrated in certain points that prevailed to us of a general vision that was to take what there was and to make the maximum.
When it made the point of flexion?
From Brno already we said: good, already it is enough to lament itself as much. It is what there is and nobody is going it to fix for us. It was clear that we had tried it, but moto did not improve and the tires either, so we put everything what we had to put to make the minimum correct.
A customary pilot to win as it is his case how digests those 10 Great consecutive Prizes without gaining in this season or a gust of wind of 17 races without victories?
I in the beginning did not think much about it because after the fall of Malaysia of the last year we entered autumn without winning as a result of the fall. But already in the new season length was made me. We were closely together, but needed little that in the end or to half of race, but always I was looking for it.
Póngase notices you, to the equipment and Sling.
Difficult. Not to want to put note but because the things or have happened and between us or we have spoken. Each one already knows which has been its failure and publicly I would not like to criticize to anybody. But as far as me, in the first part of the championship I was either, in second, to regulate and in the final part, very or.
But in the second part it is the victory in Sachsenring
Yes, but also it is Dry Lagoon and others more. In this part I attribute several moments that in race could not with my pilotage resolve the problems and quicker being. Although it was fault of which had in hand, evidently he was frustrating for me because it knew which is my potential and that could go equal of express that Stoner or who was ahead and it was not obtaining it.
Of what race of the 2007 he is prouder?
Possibly of the last one in Cheste, but also there are others like Estoril (where it entered a hand-to-hand with Rossi) and Him Mans in the water (4º).
What percentage of progression has had moto since they occurred it in the test of preseason in Sepang until the last race in Cheste?
My perception is that she has been small, but also could be like when one it has a son and it does not see the changes of the day day, and nevertheless somebody comes from visit months later and sees that the boy has changed a pile and is different. From Barcelona we began to obtain important improvements in which one talks about quality. Until Barcelona always things, but nothing with quality.
If it could before have had moto as arrived at Valencia weekend the past it had been able to plant face to Stoner?
Perhaps it could have done something more, but the situation is the one that is. We have had many bumps. Valencia was a stop, but Phillip Island was a low one. Although the expectations were very high, you left suddenly there and no. We had been able to do something more perhaps than in some races we have needed that something more.
Has cost him to you more being runner-up than to Casey Stoner to be champion of the world?
That seems.
It gives envies the Ducati and the situation in which has been Casey east year?
I would not say envies, but you think that in theory she must the other way around have been. But the things are thus; this one has been its moment and we are going to see how long is its moment more.
It annoys the fact to him that his companion of Stoner generation has gained the world-wide title before you?
Yes, I had liked to obtain it before he.
It compensates to him to have gained the subchampionship to Valentino Rossi?
Not absolutely, but in small part, yes.
To win to him to Rossi or being runner-up?
Being runner-up.
I title of Stoner was a question of hands or moto?
Probably of everything.
What lessons have learned of this 2007?
That there is to be very implied with the technical things, it is not necessary to leave nor but mini loose end because if deshila all the jersey and does not occur you nor it counts and it is all exhausted. You always have to try to tie it all fort and and well then the things work. In this end of season we worked much in this.
Facing the 2008 they have promised many things to him?
It is not a question of promises but of which Deep, Michelin and i myself, each one has realized its error. If they want to sleep that they do it in his house, but if they come here, it is to work. Now everybody has the message and that is the important thing.
For that reason it took as much in renewing with Sling?
No, sincerely it was because he was not contented with the conditions and had to value it well. Yes it went completely in serious that could leave Sling. Evidently he was not contented with the situation and what it was not going to do it is to deceive anybody. What wanted was to improve my situation.
With Masumi Hamane, president of HRC from May, feels more wrapped?
He has given to more contented force yestoy him because the new organizational chart is at the most more powerful.
Feels now as the HRC prop and has stopped being the one that is next to the world-wide champion?
In this equipment much to pilots is valued both.
Was that the main problem to begin with?
The problem is that the one that was champion does not have much idea of how evolving one moto and we have had the crazy engineers. One to the right and another one to the left and, when the one of the left said totally to the right, in the end then to cry because he wanted what Mr. Pedrosa had. It has been a difficult year because he has had two-way traffic and when it seems that that does not go, then everything to a direction.
It understands why Rossi wants to be on the other hand and that Lorenzo is in favor of another one in Yamaha?
Yes.
If to you they also gave the opportunity him it would do it?
Yes.
Better single than badly accompanied?
If, absolutely. If I must take a responsibility the volume to the 100% because I trust which I feel and in my knowledge as pilot and believe that I can take this towards the good direction. But with the year that we have had it has been very difficult to have always to the engineers thinking about which they had to think.
What seems to him the new regulation of tires, with greater number to choose?
I do not know, to see what happens. I had preferred more to be of training and soon to decide the tires, but they did not take it into account. We will see if we were able to equal. Before he was unequal, it now continues it being in favor of Bridgestone, and to see if this way we equaled the things.
Sunday finished World-wide the 2007, Tuesday began or preseason 2008 Is good to forget the season to pass page fast or had preferred to go away of vacations?
Egoistically, the best era to go to me of vacations and already I will return, but from elpunto of technical Vista long time is needed and is necessary to prove
i tried but its a little rocky, is there anyone who can help with the rough spots?
Interview to Dani Pedrosa, world-wide runner-up of MotoGP
Elvira González - 09/11/2007 03:00
The past Sunday finished in circuit Ricardo Tormo de Cheste the World-wide one of speed with triumph of Dani Pedrosa, a result that combined with retirement by problems of motor in its Yamaha de Valentino Rossi allowed to finish the season him like world-wide runner-up. In his second year in MotoGP it has signed two victories, two second seats and three third, such podios ones, eight, and triumphs, two, that in the season of its debut. The runner-up analyzes therefore the season for Sport World.
In the interview that I made to him just before initiating the World-wide one it said ' to east year the better ones will gain piles of dineró and thus we titled it Saw come what was going to happen?
Good, more or less. The truth is that we have had surprises. Then we already knew that it was going to be difficult, although not as much as it
has been. Also we knew that Ducati had done good moto because the first time that taught in Brno I to it still I ran with the thousands and I put myself alongside in the straight line to compare it. My thousands did not run more than their 800. We already intuited that that moto would be good.
When it saw clear that its Sling of 800cc was not sufficiently competitive?
In Mugello, already I saw there that she was not sufficiently competitive in all a race. We had gone fast in training and in the end it happened the same, to half of race always went me for back. Moto was fast in a return, but already và that we had handicap.
And at what moment of the season it saw that the title was lost?
Between Laguna Seca and Brno already he was definitive for us.
It has been the most difficult year of his race?
Possibly, by the fact to have to fight to me with engineers to improve this much moto, many meetings so that the things flowed better inside and the information was faster and the things became. And also because the results have not accompanied when everybody was expected it. And not only because it also waited for the liking to it but by the atmosphere that was within the equipment. But we have learned of all this.
When oÃa or read that this moto was done to its measurement what thought on the inside?
Pués that perhaps did not know as much, and I have looked for the way more politically correct to say it.
The fight spirit did not lose it at any moment because until the last Great Prize he was fighting to gain races but what he happened through his head during all these months?
Many things because we have had so many problems that you are centered in things, you forget others and thus you go from a site to another one. The vision was not so global at certain moments, with which the thoughts were changing, first he was moto, soon the tires, very concentrated in certain points that prevailed to us of a general vision that was to take what there was and to make the maximum.
When it made the point of flexion?
From Brno already we said: good, already it is enough to lament itself as much. It is what there is and nobody is going it to fix for us. It was clear that we had tried it, but moto did not improve and the tires either, so we put everything what we had to put to make the minimum correct.
A customary pilot to win as it is his case how digests those 10 Great consecutive Prizes without gaining in this season or a gust of wind of 17 races without victories?
I in the beginning did not think much about it because after the fall of Malaysia of the last year we entered autumn without winning as a result of the fall. But already in the new season length was made me. We were closely together, but needed little that in the end or to half of race, but always I was looking for it.
Póngase notices you, to the equipment and Sling.
Difficult. Not to want to put note but because the things or have happened and between us or we have spoken. Each one already knows which has been its failure and publicly I would not like to criticize to anybody. But as far as me, in the first part of the championship I was either, in second, to regulate and in the final part, very or.
But in the second part it is the victory in Sachsenring
Yes, but also it is Dry Lagoon and others more. In this part I attribute several moments that in race could not with my pilotage resolve the problems and quicker being. Although it was fault of which had in hand, evidently he was frustrating for me because it knew which is my potential and that could go equal of express that Stoner or who was ahead and it was not obtaining it.
Of what race of the 2007 he is prouder?
Possibly of the last one in Cheste, but also there are others like Estoril (where it entered a hand-to-hand with Rossi) and Him Mans in the water (4º).
What percentage of progression has had moto since they occurred it in the test of preseason in Sepang until the last race in Cheste?
My perception is that she has been small, but also could be like when one it has a son and it does not see the changes of the day day, and nevertheless somebody comes from visit months later and sees that the boy has changed a pile and is different. From Barcelona we began to obtain important improvements in which one talks about quality. Until Barcelona always things, but nothing with quality.
If it could before have had moto as arrived at Valencia weekend the past it had been able to plant face to Stoner?
Perhaps it could have done something more, but the situation is the one that is. We have had many bumps. Valencia was a stop, but Phillip Island was a low one. Although the expectations were very high, you left suddenly there and no. We had been able to do something more perhaps than in some races we have needed that something more.
Has cost him to you more being runner-up than to Casey Stoner to be champion of the world?
That seems.
It gives envies the Ducati and the situation in which has been Casey east year?
I would not say envies, but you think that in theory she must the other way around have been. But the things are thus; this one has been its moment and we are going to see how long is its moment more.
It annoys the fact to him that his companion of Stoner generation has gained the world-wide title before you?
Yes, I had liked to obtain it before he.
It compensates to him to have gained the subchampionship to Valentino Rossi?
Not absolutely, but in small part, yes.
To win to him to Rossi or being runner-up?
Being runner-up.
I title of Stoner was a question of hands or moto?
Probably of everything.
What lessons have learned of this 2007?
That there is to be very implied with the technical things, it is not necessary to leave nor but mini loose end because if deshila all the jersey and does not occur you nor it counts and it is all exhausted. You always have to try to tie it all fort and and well then the things work. In this end of season we worked much in this.
Facing the 2008 they have promised many things to him?
It is not a question of promises but of which Deep, Michelin and i myself, each one has realized its error. If they want to sleep that they do it in his house, but if they come here, it is to work. Now everybody has the message and that is the important thing.
For that reason it took as much in renewing with Sling?
No, sincerely it was because he was not contented with the conditions and had to value it well. Yes it went completely in serious that could leave Sling. Evidently he was not contented with the situation and what it was not going to do it is to deceive anybody. What wanted was to improve my situation.
With Masumi Hamane, president of HRC from May, feels more wrapped?
He has given to more contented force yestoy him because the new organizational chart is at the most more powerful.
Feels now as the HRC prop and has stopped being the one that is next to the world-wide champion?
In this equipment much to pilots is valued both.
Was that the main problem to begin with?
The problem is that the one that was champion does not have much idea of how evolving one moto and we have had the crazy engineers. One to the right and another one to the left and, when the one of the left said totally to the right, in the end then to cry because he wanted what Mr. Pedrosa had. It has been a difficult year because he has had two-way traffic and when it seems that that does not go, then everything to a direction.
It understands why Rossi wants to be on the other hand and that Lorenzo is in favor of another one in Yamaha?
Yes.
If to you they also gave the opportunity him it would do it?
Yes.
Better single than badly accompanied?
If, absolutely. If I must take a responsibility the volume to the 100% because I trust which I feel and in my knowledge as pilot and believe that I can take this towards the good direction. But with the year that we have had it has been very difficult to have always to the engineers thinking about which they had to think.
What seems to him the new regulation of tires, with greater number to choose?
I do not know, to see what happens. I had preferred more to be of training and soon to decide the tires, but they did not take it into account. We will see if we were able to equal. Before he was unequal, it now continues it being in favor of Bridgestone, and to see if this way we equaled the things.
Sunday finished World-wide the 2007, Tuesday began or preseason 2008 Is good to forget the season to pass page fast or had preferred to go away of vacations?
Egoistically, the best era to go to me of vacations and already I will return, but from elpunto of technical Vista long time is needed and is necessary to prove
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One incident I forgot about but was reminded of in the MTV movie was when Nicky crashed out in the rain ( I believe in Le Mans ) and how
quickly and forcefully Pooch yanked the hayden letters off the pit board.
That always struck me as odd. Nicky was not near P-Bot in the points but Pooch reacted like it was a matter of life or death.
It's become quite clear that they view Nicky as a bitter rival who must always be beat. Maybe more so than most other riders besides Stoner
and Rossi.
As far as developing bikes Dani not only runs less laps but seems to always cut out of tests a day early.
quickly and forcefully Pooch yanked the hayden letters off the pit board.
That always struck me as odd. Nicky was not near P-Bot in the points but Pooch reacted like it was a matter of life or death.
It's become quite clear that they view Nicky as a bitter rival who must always be beat. Maybe more so than most other riders besides Stoner
and Rossi.
As far as developing bikes Dani not only runs less laps but seems to always cut out of tests a day early.
Honda were wrong to listen to Nicky but they had their hands tied because they couldnt expect Danny's info to be reliable as hes got less experience in motogp.
Nicky cannot develop bikes very well could be because hes from superbikes and didn't come up through the motogp ranks.
He usually can just for his own style but now hes havin major problems with that too.
Nicky cannot develop bikes very well could be because hes from superbikes and didn't come up through the motogp ranks.
He usually can just for his own style but now hes havin major problems with that too.
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Just when I was starting to warm up to the little .......
Yeah, blame Nicky.
Honda came out with a 800cc MotoGP bike crammed into a goddamned 50cc chassis for your scrawny ...! Now it's Nicky's fault that you couldn't get the thing developed and to the front of the pack??
Geezus...I don't even know what to say.
I hope Nicky absolutely cleans his clock next season.
Yeah, blame Nicky.
Honda came out with a 800cc MotoGP bike crammed into a goddamned 50cc chassis for your scrawny ...! Now it's Nicky's fault that you couldn't get the thing developed and to the front of the pack??
Geezus...I don't even know what to say.
I hope Nicky absolutely cleans his clock next season.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(povol @ Nov 21 2007, 02:15 AM) [snapback]101674[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Which doesnt bode well for Nicky.Its contract time and if Nick doesnt finish ahead of Asimo next year, i could see them look in another direction.Maybe Dovi if he keeps riding that turd the way he has.Next year could be a make or break year for Nicky which will make things intresting.
2008 is Nicky's final year of a free ride at Repsol...Dovi and Dani are the HRC Golden Boys, and Nicky is old news. I would not be surprised if Duhamel retires at the end of 2008, and Hayden is offered his seat in the AMA. So Nicky will be left two choices AMA, or a Yamaha as second rider to Lorenzo or Toseland.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 21 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]101693[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Honda were wrong to listen to Nicky but they had their hands tied because they couldnt expect Danny's info to be reliable as hes got less experience in motogp.
Nicky cannot develop bikes very well could be because hes from superbikes and didn't come up through the motogp ranks.
He usually can just for his own style but now hes havin major problems with that too.
HRC made a very big deal at the end of 2006 about that years 990 was the best all the previous and it was all down to Nicky's input. The 2007 800 was a direct evolution of that 2006 bike, and so started as Nicky's baby. During 2007 it was clear that the bike was a pig, and it was not getting leaps and bounds better.
Why?
HONDA ENGINEERS MAKE and DEVELOP BIKES, AND ANY RIDER SHOULD BE ABLE TO WIN ON THEM. And this exactly the reason Rossi left Honda for Yamaha to prove them wrong.
Which doesnt bode well for Nicky.Its contract time and if Nick doesnt finish ahead of Asimo next year, i could see them look in another direction.Maybe Dovi if he keeps riding that turd the way he has.Next year could be a make or break year for Nicky which will make things intresting.
2008 is Nicky's final year of a free ride at Repsol...Dovi and Dani are the HRC Golden Boys, and Nicky is old news. I would not be surprised if Duhamel retires at the end of 2008, and Hayden is offered his seat in the AMA. So Nicky will be left two choices AMA, or a Yamaha as second rider to Lorenzo or Toseland.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 21 2007, 06:36 AM) [snapback]101693[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Honda were wrong to listen to Nicky but they had their hands tied because they couldnt expect Danny's info to be reliable as hes got less experience in motogp.
Nicky cannot develop bikes very well could be because hes from superbikes and didn't come up through the motogp ranks.
He usually can just for his own style but now hes havin major problems with that too.
HRC made a very big deal at the end of 2006 about that years 990 was the best all the previous and it was all down to Nicky's input. The 2007 800 was a direct evolution of that 2006 bike, and so started as Nicky's baby. During 2007 it was clear that the bike was a pig, and it was not getting leaps and bounds better.
Why?
HONDA ENGINEERS MAKE and DEVELOP BIKES, AND ANY RIDER SHOULD BE ABLE TO WIN ON THEM. And this exactly the reason Rossi left Honda for Yamaha to prove them wrong.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<div class='quotemain'>Was that the main problem to begin with?
The problem is that the one that was champion does not have much idea of how evolving one moto and we have had the crazy engineers. One to the right and another one to the left and, when the one of the left said totally to the right, in the end then to cry because he wanted what Mr. Pedrosa had. It has been a difficult year because he has had two-way traffic and when it seems that that does not go, then everything to a direction.
he's talking about himself in the third person
The problem is that the one that was champion does not have much idea of how evolving one moto and we have had the crazy engineers. One to the right and another one to the left and, when the one of the left said totally to the right, in the end then to cry because he wanted what Mr. Pedrosa had. It has been a difficult year because he has had two-way traffic and when it seems that that does not go, then everything to a direction.
I remember rossi saying exactly the same about NH back in the days when he was his teammate. he said that hayden is a very good rider, but has troubles developing a bike and that was his only problem to ever become champ. well, clearly rossi couldn't look in the future, cause NH was champ, but he said it too. don't know what the fuss is about now that dani has said it too.
maybe it's true??
Funny thing is, if you recall there was a comment made by Hayden that later in the year some of the things he asked for (changes to the bikes) and he started finishing higher.....I know one of the things he wanted was a slightly larger frontal area as the original was too small for him to tuck behind. I believe that more input from Pedrosa was used on the 800 than from Hayden.
I am not saying Hayden is the greatest development rider, but you cannot tell me that the 800 was designed and built around him and his wants. I think Honda feels that they were "lucky" to win the title last year with Hayden and the troubles that plagued him the entire year. I think Honda really thought that Pedrosa was their golden boy. Does anyone recall Pedrosa having any clutch issues last year? I sure don't.
Hayden should just ..... slap Pedrosa and tell him to keep is little whiny mouth shut.
I am not saying Hayden is the greatest development rider, but you cannot tell me that the 800 was designed and built around him and his wants. I think Honda feels that they were "lucky" to win the title last year with Hayden and the troubles that plagued him the entire year. I think Honda really thought that Pedrosa was their golden boy. Does anyone recall Pedrosa having any clutch issues last year? I sure don't.
Hayden should just ..... slap Pedrosa and tell him to keep is little whiny mouth shut.
