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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Mar 18 2007, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What do you think now then?

What a little star we have, at last, in Lewis Hamilton. World Champ in his rookie year? I reckon it's a strong possibility.

thats jumping the gun a little bit but WOOOOOOOO! go Lewis!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Mar 19 2007, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are an ......
Very simple, Kimi would have won anyways, he was by far the fastest, so the best result possible was second. He could be all over Lewis, risking overheating his engine, a crash or a mistake to get 2nd or he could just follow behind, don't stress the engine and put the hammer down in the 2 laps he had when Lewis pitted. Same result much less risk.
If Alonso was 'not trying his hardest' just because he thought he wouldn't catch up with Raikkonen then he shouldn't be where he is, give up his 2 world titles and car to Anthony Davidson, because it doesn't matter if you can't catch him you still bloody try and if you're still loosing time near the end then simply slow down but not right at the start of the race!
Alonso couldn't of been all over Hamilton! Alonso had more fuel than Hamilton and Hamilton still beat him and pulled out a respectable gap. Don't say that Alonso could of blown the engine/overheated etc because look at the others...such as Barrichello - he had a terrible qualifying but tried his best in the race and made up place after place, Alonso could of done the same and you don't get 2 world titles from sitting on your own in the field.
I understand you're a Alonso fan but still, pretty obvious that some of the stuff your chatting is wrong!

What a pitty, I was waiting for that proof.

And what exactly would it be, cause apparently getting beaten in quali + race is such a great result.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Mar 19 2007, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Alex, you're my new hero, my new guru!!!!

I really couldn't be bothered,.....like I say, what a load of old twaddle, and like you say, he's an Alonso fan. A pretty bitter and twisted one by the sounds of it too.

"Mr. ....." .....nice! If he wins on of my prizes, I'll send him a Schumacher!

Sounds like he is Schumacher to be honest.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Mar 19 2007, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If Alonso was 'not trying his hardest' just because he thought he wouldn't catch up with Raikkonen then he shouldn't be where he is, give up his 2 world titles and car to Anthony Davidson, because it doesn't matter if you can't catch him you still bloody try and if you're still loosing time near the end then simply slow down but not right at the start of the race!
Alonso couldn't of been all over Hamilton! Alonso had more fuel than Hamilton and Hamilton still beat him and pulled out a respectable gap. Don't say that Alonso could of blown the engine/overheated etc because look at the others...such as Barrichello - he had a terrible qualifying but tried his best in the race and made up place after place, Alonso could of done the same and you don't get 2 world titles from sitting on your own in the field.
I understand you're a Alonso fan but still, pretty obvious that some of the stuff your chatting is wrong!
Why do you quote "not trying his hardest" I didn't say that (did I??), of course he tried hard, just look at how he pushed and etched into Kimi's lead when he could in the last stint.
Barrichello was out of the points nothing to lose, he can take as many risks as he wants, he is not fighting for a championship.
"Respectable gap"??? what??? there was no gap, Alonso was right behind Lewis and he kept a 1 or 2 second difference all the time to keep his engine cool and when Lewis was about to pit he got closer.
I don't know what do you mean by "beat him", you mean the first lap?? In that case, yeah Lewis was smart there and did a great manouver to pass Alonso and Kubica, otherwise Lewis didn't beat Alonso anywhere.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Mar 19 2007, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Alex, you're my new hero, my new guru!!!!

I really couldn't be bothered,.....like I say, what a load of old twaddle, and like you say, he's an Alonso fan. A pretty bitter and twisted one by the sounds of it too.

"Mr. ....." .....nice! If he wins on of my prizes, I'll send him a Schumacher!
You asked me to do it if I wanted proof!

I've just realised that there is a Formula 1 pinned thread that I created for this kind of talk to stop this category getting overflowed by F1, but owell!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Mar 19 2007, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What a pitty, I was waiting for that proof.

And what exactly would it be, cause apparently getting beaten in quali + race is such a great result.
It was indeed a GREAT result if you consider Lewis is only a rookie and FA a double time/reigning champion!!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Mar 19 2007, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Outraced? How, where, when? The only time he got close to Lewis in the first two stints was when Lewis had a slight off,......... and Lewis was carrying more fuel! Outraced, oh really, please!

When you are behind a guy in lap one and end up 11 seconds ahead at the end of the race, that is a perfect example of outracing. Alonso outraced Lewis, it's a not an opinion, it's a fact.
Lewis had 1 lap more of fuel in the first stint, 1 less in the 2nd stint and couldn't pull away, so what? proves nothing.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Quite comfortably. Two meaningless words tagged on which you think makes you sound clever. Oh no, not after 'ouraced'. You either outrace, or you don't,....you certainly don't outrace 'quite' comfortably.
Again I'll give you an example, Kimi won the race quite comfortably, Fisichella beat Massa quite tightly, hope that clears up the meaning of outracing comfortably to you.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Low risk approach. What the hell does that mean? There is no such thing as a low risk approach. They can turn the wick down a bit on the car if the need arises. He wasn't having any overheating problems or he would have been diving out from Lewis's slipstream. But the fact is, he was never that close!
Yeah of course there is, such an approach, that's what winners do. Take risks only when they have too and stay cool always. Prost was a master of this.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Blew him away? No, that is the stage of the race where you settle, you follow team intruction etc. That is when you protect the engine, not the first stint!!!!!
In the last stint Alonso pulled a second per lap and as you can see Hamilton himself (very honest by the way) admitted he just couldn't keep up with Alonso no matter how hard he tried.
Extract from Sunday's press conference

Q: (Ed Gorman - The Times) Lewis we saw your joy at the finish. Can you talk us through the last few laps as you were heading towards that podium?

Hamilton: I think for the last five laps I could see that I didn't have the pace to keep up with Fernando and so I knew that enough space behind me. [/b]The key was to bring the car home. At the end of the day, I knew I had done enough for my first race. I was pushing as hard as I could, but I wasn't able to keep up, or close the gap between me and Fernando; and so that was that. But, again, going into the next race, we are extremely strong and being here, third place is a great feeling.

Hamilton's own words saying he wasn't as fast as Alonso and the facts (11 seconds ahead) prove what I said in my first post, you on the contrary just don't take out your tinted glasses when you write.

And you can keep attacking personally at Alonso I couldn't care less because reading your posts it's obvious you know very little about F1, personal attacks (like coward etc ...) is the only thing you have. You think this is bike racing but it's not, in F1 when 2 cars run together and the first one doesn't pull away it means the 2nd one is faster.

I do think Lewis did a great debut, but his race was not as good as Alonso's, it's that simple.
He was relatively close though and that's a great achievement because he already is at the level Fisichella was and that's with no experience at all.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Mar 20 2007, 01:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"Mr. ....." .....nice! If he wins on of my prizes, I'll send him a Schumacher!

Also its worth pointing out, that Lewis made a mistake and run off the tarmac briefly, and Team boss Ron Dennis advised him not to press to hard and take things a little easier.

In other words Lewis is the apple of his eye, we may see further proof of that as the season unfolds.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I truly believe this guy has as much chance of lifting the crown as anyone.

If you are so sure why don't bet on it?

How about if Hamilton beats Alonso (total of points) by the end of the season I get my name changed for a year to Mindless cheerleader (or whatever you want) plus I get my sig to say "Hamilton is the best and I don't know a .... about F1" (or similar).
But if you lose you get your name changed. I was thinking along the lines of Mr. ..... but if you find it too offensive I could think of something else. Though it shouldn't worry you since Lewis is SO good.

Well that's funny, you call Alonso coward and now look who chickens out.

Pathetic.

Ok, both of you..relax!

There's nothing wrong with sharing your opinion, but let's do it in a more fun way